Word choice

[+hukilaulau]

Sticks and stones may break my bones but words may never hurt me.

Actually, this has been proven scientifically to be untrue. Hearing either negative or positive words repeatedly can actually change brain structure, and promote physical health or illness.

So the intent of a word is more important than the word itself.

[+hukilaulau]

English is a living, dynamic language. Words eventually mean whatever we say they mean. New words are added to dictionaries every year. As a previous poster said, words don't start out in dictionaries, they are added because people use them to describe something. While I sympathize with your sentiment, I can't agree with your premise. There are some words that are in general usage that make me cringe, and that I would never use (anything "aholic" like "workaholic" or "cache-aholic" or the word "suicide" used as a verb), but I would not bother to try to impose my own standards on anyone else. When people use the term "numbers whore" the meaning is clear, and that, after all, is the main point of language.

Oh dear! I find myself agreeing with most of your points. However, I suspect we'll have to agree to disagree WRT "-aholic"

 

Seriously, English certainly is a dynamic language and we often "misuse" words without realising it. For example, "dynamic" means "energetic" or "active", yet the marketeers have morphed it to the context in which you used it and in which most would understand your meaning. Both American and English (which are distinct but related languages IMO) have evolved from the common root in 17th Century England. Consider how someone from the Shakespearian era would regard our dialect; or how we would his.

 

FWIW, "whore" has been in colloquial use on the left side of the pond for well over a decade to mean "one who is obsessed by" the other part of the noun phrase. For example, a "label whore" is someone who will only wear clothes with "designer" labels and an "attention whore" is an obsessive attention-seeker. In that context, "numbers whore" seems correctly applied and appropriate IMO.

 

Geoff

 

(who's yet to get over marketeers' habit of using nouns as verbs - e.g. products that threaten to fragrance my house )

great post! For the record, i used "dynamic" meaning active as opposed to static, so i think I've got it right. And "-aholic", are you kidding me? there is no substance called "workahol" which one can become addicted to. And as an aside... did you see that one of the new words in (some dictionary) is "Unfriend"? Got to be the cruelest thing you can do to someone

[+sbell111]

 

It's that your neighbour's dog?

 

He's very nice but I'm not sure how he fitted into this thread.

He's a hound.

[Clan Riffster]

Do "ho" and "whore" really mean the same thing?

Good question. While I don't like the term "whore" in any context, I would have no problem poking fun at someone by calling them a "numbers ho". I may need to rethink this.

[+Renegade Knight]

...3 : a venal...person

 

From M-W.com.

 

1 : capable of being bought or obtained for money or other valuable consideration :

 

Other valuable consideration in this case is the smilie.

 

Even ignoring that, a numbers whore has developed it's own meaning in the activity, Just the same as a radius slave and FTF hounds.

 

It is not used to denote warm and fuzzy acceptance of the practice. I wonder what numbers chasers call themselves. I never called myself anything in particualr even as I racked up some good numbers when I was a lot more active.

Edited November 30, 2009 by Renegade Knight

[+bflentje]

Sticks and stones may break my bones but words may never hurt me.

Actually, this has been proven scientifically to be untrue. Hearing either negative or positive words repeatedly can actually change brain structure, and promote physical health or illness.

So the intent of a word is more important than the word itself.

 

Please don't miss my point, no matter how correct or incorrect you may be. It'd be fascinating to hear "repeatedly" defined and put into context.. I mean, as a side note, not as a challenge.

[+TheAlabamaRambler]

Do "ho" and "whore" really mean the same thing?

Good question. While I don't like the term "whore" in any context, I would have no problem poking fun at someone by calling them a "numbers ho". I may need to rethink this.

Really? It's okay to call them a whore as long as you mis-spell it?

 

Yeah, add "Ho" to my grammar nazi list!

[+Renegade Knight]

...Family friendly alternative? "He'd do just about anything to get a FTF"....

 

You likely bring up the source. Replace FTF with Crack and you get the gist of cache whore..

 

Cache-o-phile sounds more like a perverted person who does sick things with caches, or a cache snob who only seeks those they deem worthy.

 

Cache-o-haulic. Most of us who stick are this to one degree or another regardless of being Cache whores' FTF hounds, Radius slaves, or whatever else. The standard gretting for noobs in the forum is "welcome to the addiction".

 

Cachemaniac, sounds more like an out of control cache placer. The kind of person who would place caches with no thought to location, repercutions, or permissions. This isn't in popular use.

 

A cache whore would be the finder equivilent. The kind of person who would rack up finds without regard for deetails like signing the log correctly. A Crack whore wouldn't worry about protection and guess where crack babies come from?

 

There are two version of family friendly in the world. Keeping your kids from being exposed to the real world (they suffer culture shock when they become adults), or teaching your kids how to adapt to the real world (you still get culture shock but they have the advantage of adaptive tools to use sooner). Both at least can work to make it a better world.

[+Renegade Knight]

Do "ho" and "whore" really mean the same thing?

Good question. While I don't like the term "whore" in any context, I would have no problem poking fun at someone by calling them a "numbers ho". I may need to rethink this.

Really? It's okay to call them a whore as long as you mis-spell it?

 

Yeah, add "Ho" to my grammar nazi list!

 

Funny that version comes up. I hate it's use, and how it's used. It's right up there with the new version of Bitch. I liked the 80's version of Bitch. "Yeah, she's a real bitch" was something to be proud of. Women took it as a sign of strenght. Now, Bitch and Ho are about the same thing.

 

The difference is use. One is about numbers regardless of who, and the other is specific about the who.

[+NYPaddleCacher]

...Family friendly alternative? "He'd do just about anything to get a FTF"....

 

You likely bring up the source. Replace FTF with Crack and you get the gist of cache whore..

 

Cachemaniac, sounds more like an out of control cache placer. The kind of person who would place caches with no thought to location, repercutions, or permissions. This isn't in popular use.

 

 

Fancachetic = one who is a geocaching fanatic

[+BlueDeuce]

There are two version of family friendly in the world. Keeping your kids from being exposed to the real world (they suffer culture shock when they become adults), or teaching your kids how to adapt to the real world (you still get culture shock but they have the advantage of adaptive tools to use sooner). Both at least can work to make it a better world.

 

Tricky thing ain't it, when you have to manage a multi-national/cultural forum and maintain family friendly?

[+Castle Mischief]

It's not a word I'd likely use on a forum that's supposed to be "family friendly" or that I'd use in a cache description or a log.

 

I'm not particularly offended by it, but I wouldn't toss it around in mixed company or around people that I don't know very well.

 

I prefer "hound" on these forums.

 

In general terms, I prefer the word "hooker", mostly because of the strong consonant trailing the first syllable.

Edited November 30, 2009 by Castle Mischief

[+TheAlabamaRambler]

It's not a word I'd likely use on a forum that's supposed to be "family friendly" or that I'd use in a cache description or a log.

 

I'm not particularly offended by it, but I wouldn't toss it around in mixed company or around people that I don't know very well.

 

I prefer "hound" on these forums.

 

In general terms, I prefer the word "hooker", mostly because of the strong consonant trailing the first syllable.

As a kid I heard that a hooker was a woman who would sleep with anyone, a whore was a woman who would sleep with anyone but YOU!

 

I guess that poor joke left me with the lifelong impression that 'whore' was about the ugliest thing you could call someone.

 

Anyhoo, it was just a request, if it reduces the use of the word great; if not it's no big deal.

[knowschad]

We haven't even been successful at changing the use of the word, "muggle" yet!

 

 

I guess I find the use (or rather, overuse) of the word "whore" to be a bit troublesome. But only a bit.

[Pajaholic]

... And "-aholic", are you kidding me? there is no substance called "workahol" which one can become addicted to.

You'd better get used to "workaholic". Since both Websters and the OED define it, it's now "official" on both sides of the pond. Colloquially at least, but coming more into general use, "aholic" is a suffix that denotes addiction. So a shopaholic is one addicted to shopping, a workaholic is one addicted to work, and a Pajaholic is one addicted to his Mk II Mitsubishi Pajero (it's Montero on the left side of the pond ... since "Pajero" in the context of colloquial Spanish doesn't mean what Mitsi thought it did But that's a whole new thread not for a family-friendly forum!)

 

{ducks}

 

Geoff

[+bshwckr]

I like getting FTF. A lot.

 

I'll sometimes get up in the middle of the night and race out into the cold or rain to try to get one.

 

<-------- That's why I've been accused of being this. In fact, I've taken to calling myself that.

 

I like doing puzzle caches. I won't be offended if someone refers to me as a "puzzle slut".

 

I didn't really care for "numbers addict" in lieu of "numbers whore". To me, "addict" can have very negative connotations as well. It implies a lack of wil power, self control, etc.

Bolded by me.

 

I still think it is right in this context and too me the word is less confronting.

 

PS. Enjoying this thread. It highlights how we are all different yet the same.

[Clan Riffster]

Really?

Yup. Really. Prior to this thread, I never considered the term "Ho" to be derogatory. I would use it in a joking manner without a second thought. Now I'm not so sure I should. Hence, my need to rethink using the term.

[+Opalblade]

I'm fairly sure the intent is for children reading these forums to not be forced into needing to adapt to the real world sooner Our opinions of how soon is too soon will vary, but "family friendly" is fairly easy to gauge - if you wouldn't feel comfortable saying it in front of a family with children of assorted ages standing in front of you, it isn't family friendly.

 

There are two version of family friendly in the world. Keeping your kids from being exposed to the real world (they suffer culture shock when they become adults), or teaching your kids how to adapt to the real world (you still get culture shock but they have the advantage of adaptive tools to use sooner). Both at least can work to make it a better world.

[+The Blorenges]

I don't know what "ho" means.

 

I've only heard it used in the Father Christmas context...

 

"Ho, ho, ho!"

 

MrsB *

 

*This gif has been temporarily "borrowed" from uperdooper over on the OT beachers. I'll return it to her soon.

[+BlueDeuce]

I guess when it comes down to what's acceptable on this site - all things in Moderation. eh?

[+TheAlabamaRambler]

I'm fairly sure the intent is for children reading these forums to not be forced into needing to adapt to the real world sooner

My concern isn't for children at all, as I seriously doubt there are any children reading these forums who need protection. Having raised six kids I can't imagine any of them under 15 spending any time at all reading this stuff.

 

My concern is for a friendly and civil forum, where adults can discuss things in open and harmonious topics about our common game without rancor or unpleasantness.

 

I take family-friendly to mean me and you, my online geocaching family!

Edited November 30, 2009 by TheAlabamaRambler

[+Opalblade]

I still think it's plausible children are reading - I already know of at least four geocachers in my area whose children have their own accounts and I've only been doing this about a month.

 

Well said - I love your interpretation of family friendly. Keeping the tone friendly for all would make my favorite forums (of late) all that much more fun to read

 

I'm fairly sure the intent is for children reading these forums to not be forced into needing to adapt to the real world sooner

My concern isn't for children at all, as I seriously doubt there are any children reading these forums who need protection. Having raised six kids I can't imagine any of them under 15 spending any time at all reading this stuff.

 

My concern is for a friendly and civil forum, where adults can discuss things in open and harmonious topics about our common game without rancor or unpleasantness.

 

I take family-friendly to mean me and you, my online geocaching family!

Edited November 30, 2009 by Opalblade

[+Renegade Knight]

...As a kid I heard that a hooker was a woman who would sleep with anyone, a whore was a woman who would sleep with anyone but YOU! ...

 

Hmmm...I heard a version where a slut was anyone, and a bitch was anyone except you.

 

That said you asked in the title:

 

Is it possible to change a culture?

 

The answer is yes. But you have to have the right word.

 

Muggle swept through and oblitterated what we all used before that. I can't even remember what I used before I thought muggle would be handy (I wasn't the first but I wasn't aware of anyone else using it at the time).

 

We used something before radius slave came along, and we used to argue more about swag before it swept the rest away. I remember when booty nuggets was a contender.

[+Renegade Knight]

I'm fairly sure the intent is for children reading these forums to not be forced into needing to adapt to the real world sooner ....

 

Children are already in the real world. They don't need to see the bloody mess of a murder scene, but when they ask why all the police cars are there, there isn't a reason to lie to them about what happened. How much detail they need is something for the parent to figure out. A 4 year old may only need to know a crime happened and the police are there to figure it out and punish the criminal.

 

Likewise if a kid asks about a numbers whore you can tell them the truth of what it means without at all explaning about the larger concept of prostitution, pimps, and crack whores.

 

There are a lot of things I'd not say around a kid. There are however a lot of things I might say to adults where there is some potential for a kid to eaves drop, or read in.

[GOF and Bacall]

With or without this word that is heard daily on the radio I would not let children near this place. Geocaching? Yes. These forums? No way.

[+hukilaulau]

... And "-aholic", are you kidding me? there is no substance called "workahol" which one can become addicted to.

You'd better get used to "workaholic". Since both Websters and the OED define it, it's now "official" on both sides of the pond. Colloquially at least, but coming more into general use, "aholic" is a suffix that denotes addiction. So a shopaholic is one addicted to shopping, a workaholic is one addicted to work, and a Pajaholic is one addicted to his Mk II Mitsubishi Pajero

{ducks}

 

Geoff

Right, that was my point. I too have words that I would like to abolish from general usage but I know I can't.

So I just don't use them myself and say nothing when others do.

[+Okiebryan]

Much to my dismay, I noticed the other day that "melty" showed up in the dictionary. What crap is this? Taco Bell makes up a word, puts it in commercials ad nauseum, and now it's in the dictionary? WTH?

[knowschad]

Much to my dismay, I noticed the other day that "geopile" had shown up in the geocaching lexicon, What crap is that? (well, actually.... a pile of that was my first guess). A cacher makes up a word and puts it in a log and...

Edited December 1, 2009 by knowschad

[+Too Tall John]

Do "ho" and "whore" really mean the same thing?

Good question. While I don't like the term "whore" in any context, I would have no problem poking fun at someone by calling them a "numbers ho". I may need to rethink this.

Really? It's okay to call them a whore as long as you mis-spell it?

 

Yeah, add "Ho" to my grammar nazi list!

Well, if you get your way, someone's going to have to change their caching name...

[+webscouter.]

 

I take issue with the text in red. Where is the official declaration that one kind of cache is superior to another? There isn't one. This is a matter of taste and as such is completely subjective. My kids love skirtlifters much more than they like hikes through spider-filled woods!

 

 

If you will read my quote once more you will see that at no time do I mention cache type. If you look through my finds you will find a pleasant mix of many types of caches.

 

What I said was that the finder lowered his/her standards. That is entirely a personal standard not a community developed measure.

 

To me it is a perfect metaphor.

 

A prostitute whore lowers her/his morals to gain something they value, usually money but sometimes drugs.

 

You are wrong sir. Please excuse my ignorance but I'm going on the assumption that you do know any prostitutes. I do. I was at one time married to an ex prostitute, I currently consider a madame a very good friend of mine, I have driven escorts to their destinations, and I've collected the fees to return them to their employer. I've been invited to their Thanksgiving dinners, and bounced their perfect babies (whose father's know of their wife/girlfriend's job) on my knee.

 

Note a single one of the women who work in this industry that I've met think they have lowered their morals. They perform a service and get paid for it. Think of them as consultants. Both parties in the transaction are consenting.

 

What might be bothering you is that they are performing a service which offends your moral standards, but you were not party to the financial transaction.

 

(And yes, prostitution is not all as pretty as I put it out above, but the better word for that is sexual slavery. Yes, it exists, see http://www.freetheslaves.net/Page.aspx?pid=183 and much of today's slavery trade is sexual slavery. That, of course, is despicable.)

 

But please don't go around assume that prostitutes are doing things against their morals. They are doing things against your morals, and that's your problem, not theirs.

 

And here is your mistake. I do know and have known many prostitutes. Living in Europe for a good portion of my life (although percentage wise it is lowering daily) I have no qualms or moral judgement against prostitution.

 

That being said there is a vast difference between a prostitute and a whore. A prostitute does indeed work within his/her personal standards. A whore on the other hand often regrets the service they provide but feel it is the only way to to achieve their personal needs. I have known several persons of this mindset also. They are typically the ones who try to hide what they do and often end up taking themselves on a journey of increasing depression and self harm.

 

In the case of caching the numbers whores I know try to hide the actions they take to increase their numbers and get upset if you point out their actions. How many cheap throwdown caches have you found that the person who threw it down freely admit to putting the cache out?

 

All that being said I know only a couple of number whores but many high number cachers. They are two different entities.

[Clan Riffster]

I too have words that I would like to abolish from general usage

Can we add "Ginormous" to the list?

[Pajaholic]

I too have words that I would like to abolish from general usage

Can we add "Ginormous" to the list?

You could, but you'd be tilting at windmills since "ginormous" is defined both in Websters and the OED. Personally, I'd rather get rid of "humongous", which is a definition that Websters gives for "ginormous", but I guess that'd be tilting at windmills too.

 

Geoff

[+RobDJr]

I don't think the word 'whore' is being used improperly in a colloquial sense. Maybe not technically perfect but not quite improper. In everyday usage, while 'whore' and 'prostitute' are basically interchangeable, I've also seen a common distinction made between the two words in that a prostitute engages in sexual activity for money, while a whore is sometimes implied as a person of low or loose morals who is willing to do anything, whether money is involved or not.

 

Changing the usage of the word, as in 'numbers whore' will be difficult, I think, because the combination has what I'd call 'power', by which I mean that in one small statement it sums up concisely both a description of the person being referred to and also the speakers opinion of that person. If you can't find a replacement that can do both just as well in as few (or fewer) words, that's an uphill battle.

 

Is the usage acceptable? Eh, doesn't bother me, but I think it's probably best confined to adult level discussions or groups of friends, rather than what's supposed to be (in my understanding) a family oriented forum.

 

I mean, c'mon. It doesn't bother me, but I also don't really want to see kids going around using that term as if it's perfectly acceptable.

[+TheAlabamaRambler]

Let me take one last shot at it, using the criteria I use in my own forum, http://www.w4aga.com/forums

 

Welcome to the Discussion Forums! Guidelines for use: The rules are few and common sense... Play nice! Keep it fun and family-friendly. If you wouldn't say or show it to your daughter, wife, pastor or boss don't post it here! That's about it. I have a low tolerance for abusive posts, if you want to argue and act ugly go somewhere else to do it! Moderators may delete posts or even accounts at any time and without warning if they violate these simple rules. One reason that both Amateur Radio and Geocaching remain pleasant is that every amateur operator is identifiable by their call sign and geocacher by their username - anonymity breeds trouble - so hams please use your FCC-assigned call in your account username and geocachers use your geocaching.com registered username. Being accountable for our posts will help us keep it fun, friendly and clean!

 

I don't think that those rules are Draconian or unreasonable and so far no one has had a problem following them.

 

So... would you casually use "whore" in conversation with your daughter, wife, pastor or boss?

 

If not why use it here?

[+RobDJr]

 

I don't think that those rules are Draconian or unreasonable and so far no one has had a problem following them.

 

So... would you casually use "whore" in conversation with your daughter, wife, pastor or boss?

 

If not why use it here?

 

I'll agree with that. For the most part I tend to follow the rules mentioned as a general principle. The coarse stuff I reserve for places it is known to be acceptable, as with a group of close friends.

[+sbell111]

Let me take one last shot at it, using the criteria I use in my own forum, http://www.w4aga.com/forums

 

Welcome to the Discussion Forums! Guidelines for use: The rules are few and common sense... Play nice! Keep it fun and family-friendly. If you wouldn't say or show it to your daughter, wife, pastor or boss don't post it here! That's about it. I have a low tolerance for abusive posts, if you want to argue and act ugly go somewhere else to do it! Moderators may delete posts or even accounts at any time and without warning if they violate these simple rules. One reason that both Amateur Radio and Geocaching remain pleasant is that every amateur operator is identifiable by their call sign and geocacher by their username - anonymity breeds trouble - so hams please use your FCC-assigned call in your account username and geocachers use your geocaching.com registered username. Being accountable for our posts will help us keep it fun, friendly and clean!

 

I don't think that those rules are Draconian or unreasonable and so far no one has had a problem following them.

 

So... would you casually use "whore" in conversation with your daughter, wife, pastor or boss?

 

If not why use it here?

While I completely agree with your position, I have been in a conversation with our pastor where he has casually used the word 'whore'.

[+TheAlabamaRambler]

While I completely agree with your position, I have been in a conversation with our pastor where he has casually used the word 'whore'.

Of course. They preach against it all the time. There's nothing wrong with the word whore when it is used correctly and in context.

 

I am not on a campaign to eliminate the word.

 

My request was (is) that we drop it in our geocaching forum as an epithet to deride geocachers who cache in ways that we personally do not like... an inappropriate use of the word designed solely for insult and derision.

[vagabond]

Do "ho" and "whore" really mean the same thing?

Good question. While I don't like the term "whore" in any context, I would have no problem poking fun at someone by calling them a "numbers ho". I may need to rethink this.

Really? It's okay to call them a whore as long as you mis-spell it?

 

Yeah, add "Ho" to my grammar nazi list!

Well, if you get your way, someone's going to have to change their caching name...

 

and another one

 

probably more also

[+sbell111]

While I completely agree with your position, I have been in a conversation with our pastor where he has casually used the word 'whore'.

Of course. They preach against it all the time. There's nothing wrong with the word whore when it is used correctly and in context.

Ummm, he wasn't preaching. He was using the word in much the same way that people in this thread would.

Edited December 1, 2009 by sbell111

[+TheAlabamaRambler]

Ummm, he wasn't preaching. He was using the word in much the same way that people in this thread would.

Can we have a quote to put it in context?

 

I just can't imagine a preacher saying "She's a sermon-whore, she'll do anything to get to listen to another one"

[+sbell111]

Ummm, he wasn't preaching. He was using the word in much the same way that people in this thread would.

Can we have a quote to put it in context?

 

I just can't imagine a preacher saying "She's a sermon-whore, she'll do anything to get to listen to another one"

It's possible that you are of the mind that the clergy only discuss their work. I've yet to meet one that was not a real person behind the collar. Edited December 1, 2009 by sbell111

[CoyoteRed]

I had to skip most of the last page as time is short, but two points:

 

1 - If you don't want to be called one, don't be one.

 

2 - As for someone who would compromise morals or standards, then I would think not observing posted hours, jumping locked gates, and other inappropriate behavior simply to get that smilie fits the definition quite well.

[+hukilaulau]

Here's the quote I was trying to remember when I made my first post in this thread:

 

"When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said in a rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean – neither more nor less."

 

From Lewis Carroll's "Through the Looking-Glass."

[+sbell111]

Here's the quote I was trying to remember when I made my first post in this thread:

 

"When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said in a rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean – neither more nor less."

 

From Lewis Carroll's "Through the Looking-Glass."

Those that succumb to this type of hubris are likely to be heading toward a great fall.

Edited December 1, 2009 by sbell111

[+coffee/wired]

Let me take one last shot at it, using the criteria I use in my own forum, http://www.w4aga.com/forums

 

Welcome to the Discussion Forums! Guidelines for use: The rules are few and common sense... Play nice! Keep it fun and family-friendly. If you wouldn't say or show it to your daughter, wife, pastor or boss don't post it here! That's about it. I have a low tolerance for abusive posts, if you want to argue and act ugly go somewhere else to do it! Moderators may delete posts or even accounts at any time and without warning if they violate these simple rules. One reason that both Amateur Radio and Geocaching remain pleasant is that every amateur operator is identifiable by their call sign and geocacher by their username - anonymity breeds trouble - so hams please use your FCC-assigned call in your account username and geocachers use your geocaching.com registered username. Being accountable for our posts will help us keep it fun, friendly and clean!

 

I don't think that those rules are Draconian or unreasonable and so far no one has had a problem following them.

 

So... would you casually use "whore" in conversation with your daughter, wife, pastor or boss?

 

If not why use it here?

Yes. My boss uses it, my husband uses it, my mom uses it. It's casual slang.

 

People casually toss around the word "retarded." Example: "Oh, don't be retarded." "This movie is retarded, why did you rent it?" Retarded originally meant a person of limited mental capacity, but now it's casually used in place of "stupid" or "foolish."

 

I rarely hear the word "retard" used in it's original form anymore. It's been replaced with the more PC term, "mentally disabled." And of course it's also used to describe resistance to outside influence, such as "flame retardant." The meaning of the word has changed and now has many different uses, which I feel is what has happened with the word "whore" as well. I just can't get upset over the use of either word, but I know many people who do. To each his own.

 

P.S. My child doesn't read forums. Ever. If she had her own computer, I'd block access to 99.9% of the Internet. She would be allowed at to visit age-appropriate websites, just as she is allowed to watch age-appropriate shows.

[+TheAlabamaRambler]

Ummm, he wasn't preaching. He was using the word in much the same way that people in this thread would.

Can we have a quote to put it in context?

 

I just can't imagine a preacher saying "She's a sermon-whore, she'll do anything to get to listen to another one"

It's possible that you are of the mind that the clergy only discuss their work. I've yet to meet one that was not a real person behind the collar.

Believe me, as a Chaplain of the Southern Baptist Church I am quite aware of the humanity of the clergy!

 

It would still be interesting to know how the man used the word.

[+sbell111]

Ummm, he wasn't preaching. He was using the word in much the same way that people in this thread would.

Can we have a quote to put it in context?

 

I just can't imagine a preacher saying "She's a sermon-whore, she'll do anything to get to listen to another one"

It's possible that you are of the mind that the clergy only discuss their work. I've yet to meet one that was not a real person behind the collar.

Believe me, as a Chaplain of the Southern Baptist Church I am quite aware of the humanity of the clergy!

 

It would still be interesting to know how the man used the word.

"She's kind of a whore." He was referring to the fact that 'she' appears to sleep around with lots of different men.

Edited December 1, 2009 by sbell111

[+TheAlabamaRambler]

Ummm, he wasn't preaching. He was using the word in much the same way that people in this thread would.

Can we have a quote to put it in context?

 

I just can't imagine a preacher saying "She's a sermon-whore, she'll do anything to get to listen to another one"

It's possible that you are of the mind that the clergy only discuss their work. I've yet to meet one that was not a real person behind the collar.

Believe me, as a Chaplain of the Southern Baptist Church I am quite aware of the humanity of the clergy!

 

It would still be interesting to know how the man used the word.

"She's kind of a whore." He was referring to the fact that 'she' appears to sleep around with lots of different men.

Totally appropriate use of the word... in context, true to the meaning of the word, probably an unfortunate word choice for a clergyman in some folks thinking, but if she sleeps with a lot of men most preachers would call it like they see it.

 

That's not much like calling a geocacher a numbers-whore though, is it?

[+sbell111]

Ummm, he wasn't preaching. He was using the word in much the same way that people in this thread would.

Can we have a quote to put it in context?

 

I just can't imagine a preacher saying "She's a sermon-whore, she'll do anything to get to listen to another one"

It's possible that you are of the mind that the clergy only discuss their work. I've yet to meet one that was not a real person behind the collar.

Believe me, as a Chaplain of the Southern Baptist Church I am quite aware of the humanity of the clergy!

 

It would still be interesting to know how the man used the word.

"She's kind of a whore." He was referring to the fact that 'she' appears to sleep around with lots of different men.

Totally appropriate use of the word... in context, true to the meaning of the word, probably an unfortunate word choice for a clergyman in some folks thinking, but if she sleeps with a lot of men most preachers would call it like they see it.

 

That's not much like calling a geocacher a numbers-whore though, is it?

No, it's not.

 

My original comment was regarding the use of the word in any context in front of a child, pastor, etc.

[+sbell111]

Here's the quote I was trying to remember when I made my first post in this thread:

 

"When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said in a rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean – neither more nor less."

 

From Lewis Carroll's "Through the Looking-Glass."

The more I think of this post, the more that I am reminded of the TFTC angst going on in the other thread. In that thread, people accept neither the cachers definition nor the true definition of the 'word'.

 

Interesting.