+Cache U Nutter Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 Most cachers place the pots lid up, but is this really the best way to keep the log book dry ? Having come across a number of damp logs in the last few days and wishing to place one myself in an potentially wet place what are your thoughts ? Quote Link to comment
+HouseOfDragons Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 (edited) My thoughts? Use something else I think lid up. The only time I've used a film cannister it was lid up and encased in a lump of concrete though. Edited November 29, 2009 by HouseOfDragons Quote Link to comment
+Team Noodles Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 from what I hear it matters little if they are inside a 50cal ammo box. joking aside, i'd say up. but i think moisture issues with them in general has more to do with cachers not closing it properly/making sure the lid is free of protruding plastic&paper then anything else. Quote Link to comment
+DigitalJim Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 (edited) Most cachers place the pots lid up, but is this really the best way to keep the log book dry ? Having come across a number of damp logs in the last few days and wishing to place one myself in an potentially wet place what are your thoughts ? [edited for being a doofus] Edited November 29, 2009 by DigitalJim Quote Link to comment
+drdick&vick Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 If the cap fits over then lid up and if the cap fits in lid down Quote Link to comment
+DigitalJim Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 If the cap fits over then lid up and if the cap fits in lid down It's a good theory, but aren't they meant to be sealed properly for their intended purpose? I can feel an experyment coming on Quote Link to comment
+webscouter. Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 No way to keep them dry, over time they all leak in my experience Quote Link to comment
+MBFace Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 Most cachers place the pots lid up, but is this really the best way to keep the log book dry ? Having come across a number of damp logs in the last few days and wishing to place one myself in an potentially wet place what are your thoughts ? No matter which way you place it you've got no control over how finders replace it . Quote Link to comment
+Munkeh Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 use something else film cannisters placed upside down have a lip around the seal, that acts like a funnel Quote Link to comment
+purple_pineapple Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 def use something else - Andy, I can provide you with some excellent film pot sized containers with watertight screw top lids - just say the word! I'll try and return your 'non-cache' box as well! Quote Link to comment
+Bear and Ragged Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 The modern tubs are not made the same way as they used to be. Most don't have a 'proper' air tight seal around the top. Choose something else, or lid up in an area that is not exposed to water. Quote Link to comment
+Cache U Nutter Posted November 30, 2009 Author Share Posted November 30, 2009 def use something else - Andy, I can provide you with some excellent film pot sized containers with watertight screw top lids - just say the word! I'll try and return your 'non-cache' box as well! But are they the same diameter as the film pots ? If they are the 'medical sample' pots they are too narrow, especially when trying to remove logs in cold weather with cold fingers ! Re : the spare box [from an illicit physical cache for those who wish to know] Merstham Maffia say they wish to use it on a forthcoming 5/5 which I eagerly await !!! By the way have you logged your recent escapade I set yet ? Quote Link to comment
+purple_pineapple Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 def use something else - Andy, I can provide you with some excellent film pot sized containers with watertight screw top lids - just say the word! I'll try and return your 'non-cache' box as well! But are they the same diameter as the film pots ? If they are the 'medical sample' pots they are too narrow, especially when trying to remove logs in cold weather with cold fingers ! Re : the spare box [from an illicit physical cache for those who wish to know] Merstham Maffia say they wish to use it on a forthcoming 5/5 which I eagerly await !!! By the way have you logged your recent escapade I set yet ? i thought they were about the same diameter - give or take a few mm. I've got plenty, so I'll get some to you somehow for evaluation! MM and us are planning a number of 5/5 caches, hunting down suitable containers at the moment! Will be logging your latest as soon as I've caught up with a few other logs first - maybe tonight! Quote Link to comment
+picona Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 i don't think it matters as we always find that mice love to chew them. We have found a few micros which are unsed we hope sample bottles from drs ect Quote Link to comment
+sTeamTraen Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 (edited) It's a good theory, but aren't they meant to be sealed properly for their intended purpose? No. If they were, there would be a tiny gasket in the lid, at least of the Kodak model (where the cap goes "outside"). The main purpose is to provide a small amount of mechanical protection for the cartridge. It isn't even to keep light out; otherwise the Fuji ones (where the cap goes "inside") wouldn't be translucent. FWIW, I find that the Fuji ones stay dry much better than the Kodak ones, although I'd expect the opposite from looking at them from the side on. And that's without doing clever stuff like putting them upside-down, in which case I'd expect Fuji's advantage to be larger (no "saucer"). Edited December 11, 2009 by sTeamTraen Quote Link to comment
+Deepdiggingmole Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 An interesting topic - and having found hundreds of these things over the years IMHO I feel it does come down to a small number of factors 1) size of log inside - I have come across many which are just a little too big making the replacing the lid a challenge in itself and invariably not enough to prevent water getting in 2) this is mentioned before - relying on finders actually taking those few extra seconds to make sure the lids are replaced completely and not just slapped on resulting in the same 'water getting in easily' issue. 3) using the 'lid outside version' as these do tend to offer a little more 'seal' though reliant on 1) and 2) above. Though as anumber have already indicated there does seem to be a few more suited alternatives out there if you are willing to fork out for them - the one factor in using the film canisters is that they are free (well all the ones I have, I obtained from a local photo shop owner who was happy to pass them over) Quote Link to comment
+drdick&vick Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 Another problem with re-fitting the lids is when people insist on putting other items in the cache. Quote Link to comment
+purple_pineapple Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Silica good for a small amount of atmospheric moisture, but not up to the task if there's a significant amount of water in there! Quote Link to comment
+Captain Gore-tex Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 We always used to use pill containers from the pharmacist on Dartmoor for letterboxing, one inside the other and it kept the log books bone dry, no mean feat there and most of them were buried in peat banks. Pop to your local Boots and they will give you a load free. Quote Link to comment
+Bear and Ragged Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 We always used to use pill containers from the pharmacist on Dartmoor for letterboxing, one inside the other and it kept the log books bone dry, no mean feat there and most of them were buried in peat banks. Pop to your local Boots and they will give you a load free. But, if it's used as a cache, you have to take a child with you, to open the child-proof tops! Quote Link to comment
+Birdman-of-liskatraz Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 We always used to use pill containers from the pharmacist on Dartmoor for letterboxing, one inside the other and it kept the log books bone dry, no mean feat there and most of them were buried in peat banks. Pop to your local Boots and they will give you a load free. Ah you get them from Boots - I used to think all Letterboxers were seriously ill people.... getting their medication in such huge quantities.. Quote Link to comment
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