+Vater_Araignee Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Today I checked my e-mail and I received two about my membership. The first one... 11/15/2009 10:00 PM Hello from Groundspeak! According to the terms of our agreement, we tried to bill your MasterCard ending in the last four digits xxxx for $10 USD, but our billing attempt failed. This could be for a variety of reasons, including an invalid or expired credit card on file. Your Groundspeak Premium Membership will continue to be valid for 7 days, at which point the account will revert to Basic Member status. If you wish to renew your membership before it expires, please visit the Groundspeak Premium Membership upgrade page: http://www.geocaching.com/Membership/premium.aspx and re-enter your payment details. Thank you for supporting Groundspeak! Cheers, The Groundspeak Team No big deal to me, I did what I had to do and let it laps but I thought somebody may also want to know about the next one sent 1 hour later. 11/15/2009 11:00 PM Hello from Groundspeak! This is just a quick note to let you know your Groundspeak Premium Membership for the username "Vater_Araignee" has expired. You may continue to use Geocaching.com, Waymarking.com or Wherigo.com as a Basic Member, or create a new Premium Membership here: http://www.geocaching.com/Membership/premium.aspx Thank you for supporting Groundspeak! Cheers, The Groundspeak Team So according to the first I have seven days to renew or revert to basic membership but, according to the second and the site itself seven days apparently equal one hour. Link to comment
OpinioNate Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Thank you for letting us know. We're currently having some difficulty properly notifying Premium Members who have, at one time, had one of the older PayPal subscriptions (S-XXXXXXXXXXX) but have since switched over to our newer payment system. The people affected seem to be those who renewed one year ago. We're looking into this and should have a fix soon. Sorry for the confusion! Link to comment
ao318 Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Mines coming up on the 28th. I've already received two emails letting me know that they are gonna take my money. I'll just wait and see what happens. Link to comment
+Crow-T-Robot Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 I'm not sure if this is the same issue, but I noticed that I'm now listed as a Basic member and cannot access my Pocket Queries. My Premium Member subscription is/was annually renewed in May of this past year, so it shouldn't expire until next May. Bruce Link to comment
+RoPeHe Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 I'm not sure if this is the same issue, but I noticed that I'm now listed as a Basic member and cannot access my Pocket Queries. My Premium Member subscription is/was annually renewed in May of this past year, so it shouldn't expire until next May. Same problem here! I'm being told I'm only a basic member. My subscription renewal isn't due till July. Link to comment
AZcachemeister Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 Add me to the list of cachers having problems with this. Recently got charged for the monthly renewal I have had going since 2005. Just now I attempted to log a PMO cache, and was denied access. Now I see my account has reverted to a 'basic' membership? No notice of any kind, just cut off. Needless to say, I am ever so slightly perturbed. Link to comment
+Bravesfan Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 (edited) Mine is paid till 11/23/2010 and I got dumped to Basic Member also!!! Edited November 18, 2009 by Bravesfan Link to comment
+68 GUNS Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 Add me to the list, mine is also now showing as Basic member only. I have sent TPTB a mail and have had the usual auto response so I'll wait and see what happens. Link to comment
+bajatym Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 Add me to the list, mine is also now showing as Basic member only. I have sent TPTB a mail and have had the usual auto response so I'll wait and see what happens. Same here I am all of a sudden basic member, but I am payed up, hope this gets fixed fast Link to comment
Chumpo Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 Me too. This is the second time this month. Link to comment
+Six Little Spookies Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 I'm not sure if this is the same issue, but I noticed that I'm now listed as a Basic member and cannot access my Pocket Queries. My Premium Member subscription is/was annually renewed in May of this past year, so it shouldn't expire until next May. Bruce Same for me. My membership was renewed in June. Link to comment
+nittany dave Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 Add me to the list. Please get this corrected. Link to comment
+Hedge Hopper Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 Add me to the list of Premium knocked down to basic when I have paid thru next May. please get it together!!! Link to comment
+OneStepCloser Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 (edited) Same with us. AND....we just paid Groundspeak YESTERDAY for our renewal...and this happened TODAY. We've been paying month to month for almost 4.5 years so you might say we are paying more for our subscription for this treatment. Edited November 18, 2009 by OneStepCloser Link to comment
+NWscout1 Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 (edited) Add me as well. I had until Dec and my account just went basic! I couldn't get to my PQ's so I renewed. My new expiration date is now a year from today rather than a year from my renewal date. Please fix. Edited November 18, 2009 by NWscout1 Link to comment
+Astartus Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 I have also been degraded. I wish there was some sort of announcement by GC that tells us why this happened. Link to comment
+softball29 Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 I see I'm not the only one. I just noticed it and I am not happy. I go month-to-month and was renewed Oct. 27 and all had been find until I just checked. Needless to say I am NOT very happy. Link to comment
+cachehorde Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 I see I'm not the only one. I just noticed it and I am not happy. I go month-to-month and was renewed Oct. 27 and all had been find until I just checked. Needless to say I am NOT very happy. same problem here. plz add me to this list. renewal has been made at the beginning of october. i'm not happy at all...... ticket has been raise at Groundspeak, but i'm relieved, i'm not alone with this problem Link to comment
+WRITE SHOP ROBERT Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 Just noticed when I saw an ad in my list of owned Caches...I'm on an annual renewing membership, that was renewed in May. Link to comment
+kris&an Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 Same thing here, changed to Basic Member without any notice. kris&an Link to comment
+speakers-corner Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 Hi folks, Not sure if this covers your problems with "premium" membership, but I seem to remember that GS were revoking "premium" membership if a script in GSAK was being used to download GSX-Files. First there was a warning from them and if this would be ignored then the accounts were being revoked. Hope this helps. Best wishes, David Link to comment
+Schuhhirsch Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 Hi folks, Not sure if this covers your problems with "premium" membership, but I seem to remember that GS were revoking "premium" membership if a script in GSAK was being used to download GSX-Files. First there was a warning from them and if this would be ignored then the accounts were being revoked. Hope this helps. Best wishes, David AFAIK these people were "banned", not downgraded. I became Basic this morning, too, although I've payed (monthly) til november 28th Link to comment
djhobby Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 Hi folks, Not sure if this covers your problems with "premium" membership, but I seem to remember that GS were revoking "premium" membership if a script in GSAK was being used to download GSX-Files. First there was a warning from them and if this would be ignored then the accounts were being revoked. Hope this helps. Best wishes, David I too have been downgraded. Just out of curiosity I looked at everyone's profiles above that have also been downgraded, and every one of us has info from GSAK posted on our profile. I wonder if this is a coincidence that 100% of us that have this problem all have uploaded stats from GSAK on our profile? I don't know about the script the above poster is talking about, but, I use a GSAK macro (GenUploadstats.gsk) that auto post my stats to my profile. Maybe this is being misinterpreted by Groundspeak as malicious and they downgraded us without warning? I'm just grasping at straws though. Hope they get me fixed soon because I need a pocket query right now. Link to comment
+nittany dave Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 Hi folks, Not sure if this covers your problems with "premium" membership, but I seem to remember that GS were revoking "premium" membership if a script in GSAK was being used to download GSX-Files. First there was a warning from them and if this would be ignored then the accounts were being revoked. Hope this helps. Best wishes, David I too have been downgraded. Just out of curiosity I looked at everyone's profiles above that have also been downgraded, and every one of us has info from GSAK posted on our profile. I wonder if this is a coincidence that 100% of us that have this problem all have uploaded stats from GSAK on our profile? I don't know about the script the above poster is talking about, but, I use a GSAK macro (GenUploadstats.gsk) that auto post my stats to my profile. Maybe this is being misinterpreted by Groundspeak as malicious and they downgraded us without warning? I'm just grasping at straws though. Hope they get me fixed soon because I need a pocket query right now. Then you didn't look at my profile. I have nothing from GSAK on there, just a map of states. This just sucks. GS, get your crap together and fix this. Link to comment
+Vinny & Sue Team Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 This is Sue... I have an account Sue-Cat - paid premium membership just the other day and yesterday it reverted to basic fo no apparent reason. I have no stats at all on my profile page (I log all finds under Vinny & Sue Team), nor do I run automated whatevers that are getting some people banned. Our Vinny & Sue Team account remains premium, thank goodness. Sue-Cat, Vinny & Sue Team Link to comment
+FRIED OKRA Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 Add my name to the list. I've been a Premium member sing 6/11/2002. My account even shows that my Premium Membership expires 8/10/2010. I had used the GSAK script to download all of the logs on my caches for my profile, but quit when one of the other local cachers got banned for doing the same. An acknowledgment from Groundspeak that they are at least looking into this issue would be appreciated. My forum title was also - Charter Member - and that also is now gone. Thanks in advance! Fried Okra Link to comment
+reddeeps Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 Me too, no warning just basic membership even tho i have paid every month for the last year or so. Link to comment
+DaxVolks Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 (edited) Count us in as well. We pay annually and just renewed in October. We have no GSAK issues - no scripts, no stats, etc. Totally unsatisfactory. I notice we're all showing as Premium Member Group in the Forum. Not sure how we got labeled as tadpole, but that's ok, I guess. Edited November 18, 2009 by DaxVolks Link to comment
+68 GUNS Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 I have 2 accounts, fortunately my primary account (created 24/12/03) which I log all my finds on is still Premium at present. My second account which I use for additional PQ's is the one which has been downgraded, there are no stats showing on that account and I have never used any GSAK scripts on that account. I think it is a system fault at Groundspeak, which they need to sort out before a lot more people get p****d off. A little communication from them would help, at least we would know they were on the case!! Link to comment
+RoPeHe Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 I think it is a system fault at Groundspeak, which they need to sort out before a lot more people get p****d off. A little communication from them would help, at least we would know they were on the case!! They should about be waking up in Seattle now, so let's hope we some action soon! Link to comment
djhobby Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 Yeah I was just making wild guesses on what might be the problem. I recieved an automatic response email back from Groundspeak after emailing them my problem. Link to comment
+owl1959 Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 Add me to the list. I have had a premium membership for many years and my expiration date is in January. This morning my account showed up as a basic member. This is really irritating... Link to comment
+colin Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 All - Thank you for your patience. We have discovered the problem and are in the process of rolling it back. We apologize for the inconvenience! ~ Colin Groundspeak Lackey Link to comment
+nani50 Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 same here! we are not amused! Cheers nani50 Link to comment
+68 GUNS Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 Mine has now returned to Premium member status again. Link to comment
+nani50 Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 Allright, that was a pretty quick action! Thx for fixing it! cheers nani50 Link to comment
+RoPeHe Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 Mine has now returned to Premium member status again. Mine also. Note that I had to log out and back in again for it to take effect. Many thanks for resolving the issue Link to comment
+nittany dave Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 Mine has now returned to Premium member status again. Mine also. Note that I had to log out and back in again for it to take effect. Many thanks for resolving the issue Yep, that did it. Thanks for the tip. Sure can't count on GS to let us know. Link to comment
+Allanon Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 Mine has now returned to Premium member status again. Mine also. Note that I had to log out and back in again for it to take effect. Many thanks for resolving the issue Yep, that did it. Thanks for the tip. Sure can't count on GS to let us know. Everyone should just take it as a fact of computer life, that if something is changed (website, application, etc.) that you should log out and back in to be sure the changes are made for you. Not just here, but everywhere. Link to comment
+nittany dave Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 Mine has now returned to Premium member status again. Mine also. Note that I had to log out and back in again for it to take effect. Many thanks for resolving the issue Yep, that did it. Thanks for the tip. Sure can't count on GS to let us know. Everyone should just take it as a fact of computer life, that if something is changed (website, application, etc.) that you should log out and back in to be sure the changes are made for you. Not just here, but everywhere. I disagree. I have an open ticket that hasn't been responded to yet and there is this thread that GS hasn't commented on lately. All along, some parts of the site were saying I was in the Premium Members group, others were not. It was not at all clear to me that logoff/logon was required and since we haven't been told from those who fixed the problem, how could we know for sure? I wasn't even sure it was fixed just because one or two people said they were back to normal. I'll grant that it often will solve a problem like this, but without communication from those fixing the problem that they've done something and that we might need to logoff/logon to see the changes, it isn't clear at all. Link to comment
+softball29 Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 I am back to normal, too. I hope this doesn't happen again. Link to comment
+Raine Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 Hey David, the problem has been fixed. You might need to log out of the website and back in to see the changes properly reflected as we use data caching on the site. -Raine Link to comment
+nittany dave Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 Hey David, the problem has been fixed. You might need to log out of the website and back in to see the changes properly reflected as we use data caching on the site. -Raine Thanks man! Link to comment
+DaxVolks Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 Thanks for the quick fix. Link to comment
AZcachemeister Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 And once again all is well at Geocache Central here in Arizona. I am wondering if there might be something we all can do to avoid this in the future? Link to comment
+Six Little Spookies Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 Yay! All better! Some of you seriously need to relax a little. A glitch happened, got noticed, got reported and got fixed ASAP. You made it sound like it was an ongoing, long unresolved problem! Thanks Lackeys! Link to comment
+NWscout1 Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 My renewal date needs to be updated. It still says 11/17/2010 because I renewed yesterday (so I could get my PQ). It should be 12/4/2010. Anyway to get that updated? Thanks Link to comment
+Crow-T-Robot Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 I just wanted to add my note of thanks for clearing this up so quickly. Bruce Link to comment
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