+23below Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 (edited) Has this ever happened to you? You drive into a parking lot, the cache is a difficulty one, and the only possible place for it to be is in a lamppost. Then, you go there, and, surprise, there's the cache! Is it just me, or are these getting really annoying? Come on, how about a little bit of creativity? Edited August 27, 2009 by 23below Quote Link to comment
Trader Rick & Rosie Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 It's just you. Quote Link to comment
Mushtang Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 They may be annoying to you, but there are a lot of other people that like them. As with any cache, if you don't like it then don't hunt for it. You could always remove all Difficulty 1 Terrain 1 Micro caches from your PQs and the number of LPCs you see will go WAY down. Just a suggestion. Quote Link to comment
+Jeep_Dog Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 Nope, it is just you. (by the way, if you are approaching a cache, and the GPSr needle is pointing to the middle of a parking lot, you may be hunting a LPC. Push the left pedal there in the car, turn away, and go somwhere else...) Quote Link to comment
Dinoprophet Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 I avoid caches in parking lots, so no, I'm not tired of them. Quote Link to comment
+sbell111 Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 Those don't bother me one bit. Quote Link to comment
+Kit Fox Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 They may be annoying to you, but there are a lot of other people that like them. As with any cache, if you don't like it then don't hunt for it. You could always remove all Difficulty 1 Terrain 1 Micro caches from your PQs and the number of LPCs you see will go WAY down. Just a suggestion. I avoid caches in parking lots, so no, I'm not tired of them. Echoing what they said, the power of pocket queries is your friend. I've made all caches with a terrain rating below 2 stars disappear from my pocket queries. Quote Link to comment
+StarBrand Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 When I go hunting for a cache and I see that it leads me to the middle of a parking lot - I'll usually just move on to the next one on my list. Quote Link to comment
Clan Riffster Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 My wife and I have very different caching styles. I like tromping thru swamps in the middle of the night, while she likes far milder terrain, including the dreaded LPC. Of the 16 or 17 PQs I run every week, my main one excludes micros, not listed and unknowns, so if I'm caching all by my lonesome, these pesky things never show up on my radar. I have a second PQ just for her, that incorporates those nasty little buggers. Since caching with her gives me great pleasure, I don't sweat any LPCs I might encounter to hard. These shrines to the gods of patheticness, (yeah, I made that up), only take a few minutes to complete, at which time I can get back to finding ones that may have more appeal to me. To address this question specifically: Is it just me, or are these getting really annoying? Absolutely! From the very first one I found I thought they were utter voids of creativity, placed by folks whose caching aesthetics are quite far removed from mine. To call them "Lame" would be to insult that term. A proper description would probably get me a well deserved ban from the forums. That's why I heeded Kit Fox's advice many, many moons ago, editing my PQs so they don't show up. Quote Link to comment
+uxorious Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 When I am bored and need something to do for a quick fix, finding a park and grab is still more fun than watching TV. When I read a book I prefer one that is well written. Maybe a classic, but for sure a good book that leaves me better off when I'm done with it. However, I still enjoy the cheesy pulp western or detective book. Why should caching be any different. Quote Link to comment
+bittsen Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 You can avoid any cache you want. I came across a NIH cache the other day. The second I knew it was a NIH cache I left. Won't log it as a DNF. If they had a specific log for "Should have never downloaded it" then I would log it that way. On the previous day I had just done a few caches off of a road in the wilderness and was somewhat relieved to do a simple LPC for a change of pace. If they weren't as popular as some want us to believe then there wouldn't be so many signatures on the logs of LPCs. Quote Link to comment
+mfamilee Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 I've actually been surprised a few times when pulling into a parking lot that it's not a LPC hide. Doesn't happen very often, but they're out there. Quote Link to comment
+wimseyguy Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 There's caches in lampposts in parking lots? Finding geocaches is kind of like eating dessert. You don't have to do it, but it sure can be fun. Sometimes a few cheap cookies satisfies the sweet tooth, but most times something with more thought and taste is what is really wanted to satisfy the cravings. But from the proliferation of fast food and crappy middling chain restaurants, many people seem satisfied with a box of cheap cookies and PnGs. I blame the corn farmers and military industrial complex. Quote Link to comment
Clan Riffster Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 I blame the corn farmers and military industrial complex. No, no, no... I keep tellin' ya'... It's a vast Left Wing conspiracy! Quote Link to comment
GOF and Bacall Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 The sad part, as far as I am concerned, is that they are in boring retail lots. I actually know of an LPC that I would recommend to someone visiting Buffalo. It is in a historic location. I know of another micro that is in a great historic location but it isn't an LPC. With so many lackluster micro hides out there many people filter out micros. The result is that we miss the few that are exceptional. I am sure that there are more great micro hides in my area but unless someone specifically tells me about them I am unlikely to find them. Quote Link to comment
GOF and Bacall Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 I blame the corn farmers and military industrial complex. No, no, no... I keep tellin' ya'... It's a vast Left Wing conspiracy! I miss the commies. Everyone could join together and blame them. It was a simpler time. Quote Link to comment
+ngrrfan Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 Finding geocaches is kind of like eating dessert. You don't have to do it, but it sure can be fun. Sometimes a few cheap cookies satisfies the sweet tooth, but most times something with more thought and taste is what is really wanted to satisfy the cravings. I like this answer. Two weeks ago my caching partners were each on vacation so I was on my own. Rather than risk life and limb by myself where we normally go I opted to do some quick LPCs as I was out running errands. Got a partial cache fix and shopping done too. Quote Link to comment
+Steve&GeoCarolyn Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 I blame the corn farmers and military industrial complex. No, no, no... I keep tellin' ya'... It's a vast Left Wing conspiracy! Can't we have both? All controlled by the great puppeteers of the Illuminati? Carolyn Quote Link to comment
+ArcherDragoon Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 Nope...because no one is actually making me find them if I make the choice not to find them... Quote Link to comment
Motorcycle_Mama Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 They don't annoy me at all because I just ignore them. Quote Link to comment
+Turtle_Sask Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 OMG this post comes up weekly, If you dont like them don't hunt for them! Quote Link to comment
+BlueDeuce Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 The sad part, as far as I am concerned, is that they are in boring retail lots. I actually know of an LPC that I would recommend to someone visiting Buffalo. It is in a historic location. I know of another micro that is in a great historic location but it isn't an LPC. With so many lackluster micro hides out there many people filter out micros. The result is that we miss the few that are exceptional. I am sure that there are more great micro hides in my area but unless someone specifically tells me about them I am unlikely to find them. Sounds like a great place for a virtual cache. You should post a thread in the website forum and ask to submit one. Quote Link to comment
GOF and Bacall Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 The sad part, as far as I am concerned, is that they are in boring retail lots. I actually know of an LPC that I would recommend to someone visiting Buffalo. It is in a historic location. I know of another micro that is in a great historic location but it isn't an LPC. With so many lackluster micro hides out there many people filter out micros. The result is that we miss the few that are exceptional. I am sure that there are more great micro hides in my area but unless someone specifically tells me about them I am unlikely to find them. Sounds like a great place for a virtual cache. You should post a thread in the website forum and ask to submit one. I'll be sure to explain that you said it was OK. Quote Link to comment
knowschad Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 They don't annoy me at all because I just ignore them. Did somebody just say something...? Quote Link to comment
+BlueDeuce Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 (edited) The sad part, as far as I am concerned, is that they are in boring retail lots. I actually know of an LPC that I would recommend to someone visiting Buffalo. It is in a historic location. I know of another micro that is in a great historic location but it isn't an LPC. With so many lackluster micro hides out there many people filter out micros. The result is that we miss the few that are exceptional. I am sure that there are more great micro hides in my area but unless someone specifically tells me about them I am unlikely to find them. Sounds like a great place for a virtual cache. You should post a thread in the website forum and ask to submit one. I'll be sure to explain that you said it was OK. Absolutely! "BlueDeuce said it was OK." They'll push it right through for you, trust me. edit: spell-check doesn't catch everything. Edited August 27, 2009 by BlueDeuce Quote Link to comment
knowschad Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 OMG this post comes up weekly like LPCs in a Wal-Mart parking lot, If you dont like them don't hunt for read them! Actually, I had a short-lived, but I think, creative LPC, as have a few others here. They're rare, but they are out there. Of course, if they weren't rare, they'd also be as lame (no offence intended to the word "lame") as the rest. Quote Link to comment
+sbell111 Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 OMG this post comes up weekly, If you dont like them don't hunt for them!According to my calendar, we were due for a 'lame LPC' thread yesterday. It was a day late. Quote Link to comment
+brokenoaks Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 They don't annoy me at all because I just ignore them. same with me. never found one nor looked for one. Quote Link to comment
+hudsonfam Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 2 points to ponder: 1. Think of the people who are in wheelchairs or need scooters to get around that want to enjoy this activity, too. LPCs are a great find for them - they can't exactly take their chairs and go bushwhacking through briars. Every cache serves a purpose for someone, but if this particular type doesn't serve a purpose for you, simply avoid them. 2. Want to find a way to appreciate those LPCs and Phone-a-Friends more? Try doing a streak. I see the most consecutive days you've gone so far is 8. Try for 50 or a 100 day streak. Then when it's nearing the end of day 44 and you realize you haven't found a cache yet and you're going to blow your streak, a nice and easy LPC will look quite inviting. Quote Link to comment
DecemberSpill Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 "You can avoid any cache you want. I came across a NIH cache the other day. The second I knew it was a NIH cache I left. Won't log it as a DNF. If they had a specific log for "Should have never downloaded it" then I would log it that way." I'm a newcomer to the sport. What's a NIH Cache? Thanks, Decemberspill Quote Link to comment
+BlueDeuce Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 Needle in Haystack Quote Link to comment
GOF and Bacall Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 Needle in Haystack Do you change you avatar or your socks more often? Quote Link to comment
Mr.Yuck Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 2 points to ponder: 1. Think of the people who are in wheelchairs or need scooters to get around that want to enjoy this activity, too. LPCs are a great find for them - they can't exactly take their chairs and go bushwhacking through briars. Every cache serves a purpose for someone, but if this particular type doesn't serve a purpose for you, simply avoid them. The "there are people in wheelchairs" response was scheduled for post #35 in the scheduled weekly lame lpc thread. You're just a wee bit early. Quote Link to comment
DecemberSpill Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 Ahh ok, so like a micro in a field of overgrowth or something? Quote Link to comment
+hudsonfam Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 2 points to ponder: 1. Think of the people who are in wheelchairs or need scooters to get around that want to enjoy this activity, too. LPCs are a great find for them - they can't exactly take their chairs and go bushwhacking through briars. Every cache serves a purpose for someone, but if this particular type doesn't serve a purpose for you, simply avoid them. The "there are people in wheelchairs" response was scheduled for post #35 in the scheduled weekly lame lpc thread. You're just a wee bit early. My apologies! I'm still kinda new here and haven't quite got the schedule down. I think I had "lame cache locations" and "lame cache swag" confused. Will try harder next time! -K Quote Link to comment
+Colonial Cats Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 The trick is to make it like like a typical LPC on paper or on site and then hide the cache in a different way. It's difficult to do but it can be done. Quote Link to comment
+flask Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 2 points to ponder: 1. Think of the people who are in wheelchairs or need scooters to get around that want to enjoy this activity, too. LPCs are a great find for them - they can't exactly take their chairs and go bushwhacking through briars. Every cache serves a purpose for someone, but if this particular type doesn't serve a purpose for you, simply avoid them. 2. Want to find a way to appreciate those LPCs and Phone-a-Friends more? Try doing a streak. I see the most consecutive days you've gone so far is 8. Try for 50 or a 100 day streak. Then when it's nearing the end of day 44 and you realize you haven't found a cache yet and you're going to blow your streak, a nice and easy LPC will look quite inviting. additionally, is there any reason why people in wheelchairs should be happy with sucky hides in parking lots? all those wishing to make an enjoyable experience for people with handicaps should do a little better than that. Quote Link to comment
+wimseyguy Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 The trick is to make it like like a typical LPC on paper or on site and then hide the cache in a different way. It's difficult to do but it can be done. I knew I was doing something wrong. I've been creating beautiful cache pages with nice wallpaper, great write ups, and clever hints. Then just putting a film can in the wallyworld parking lot. No wonder the logs are so full of initials and acronyms. Quote Link to comment
+sbell111 Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 (edited) 2 points to ponder: 1. Think of the people who are in wheelchairs or need scooters to get around that want to enjoy this activity, too. LPCs are a great find for them - they can't exactly take their chairs and go bushwhacking through briars. Every cache serves a purpose for someone, but if this particular type doesn't serve a purpose for you, simply avoid them. The "there are people in wheelchairs" response was scheduled for post #35 in the scheduled weekly lame lpc thread. You're just a wee bit early. Strangley, the standard response came exactly on schedule at post #37. Edited August 27, 2009 by sbell111 Quote Link to comment
GOF and Bacall Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 Ahh ok, so like a micro in a field of overgrowth or something? Like a fake rock it a field of rocks. Quote Link to comment
+L0ne.R Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 OMG this post comes up weekly, If you dont like them don't hunt for them! I think the problem is that you don't know it's an LPC until you are 100 feet from it and the arrow is pointing at the lamp post. So you drive 10 miles out of your way for what? It's frustrating. For those who say -- check the satellite view on google maps, you'll see that the cache is in a parking lot -- not everyone drives around with a laptop and wifi access. The only solution so far is, ignore all micros and ignore all caches whose terrain rating is under 2. Which is a shame because there are some good caches out there that are clever micros or decent easy to get to caches. Quote Link to comment
+Castle Mischief Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 I ignore caches with names like "Right on Target" "Tram*Law" "Low Cost Leader" "Always _____" Doesn't always work, but that combined with filtering out micros altogether has kept me away from LPCs once I decided I didn't get any joy from finding them. Quote Link to comment
+Ms.Scrabbler Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 They don't annoy me at all because I just ignore them. same with me. never found one nor looked for one. Parking lot hides can be surprising. I understand some don't like the hides under LP skirts. We don't mind them if they are far and few between. A few weeks ago we looked for some traditional ones and came up with 3 DNFs so a LP was great boost. As far as avoiding parking lots - I'm glad we don't do that. We have found cool hides on the outside edges, even behind a couple of WMarts we walked into woods, even found a large pond. Of course if you look at the distance it helps tell you if it's outside the pavement, but if I was just driving by I might not realize it's not a LP. We placed one LP cache that's been out for a 1.5 years, 80 finds and everyone enjoys it - however I'm sure there are some that drive by without looking for it. GC19FBD (no skirt here, 5 large bolts under the platform, now there are 6. Another parking lot hide we placed is GC1DTTZ is not a LP hide, I've been told some cachers have gone straight for a LP even though the coords are way off! It's a little paint holder with fake pine pieces glued on placed in the crook of a pine tree. We don't assume anything just because it looks like a bland parking lot hide. Quote Link to comment
+Turtle_Sask Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 OMG this post comes up weekly like LPCs in a Wal-Mart parking lot, If you dont like them don't hunt for read them! Actually, I had a short-lived, but I think, creative LPC, as have a few others here. They're rare, but they are out there. Of course, if they weren't rare, they'd also be as lame (no offence intended to the word "lame") as the rest. Ilm not saying I hate them, I actually enjoy finding them. Also thinking of hiding one soon. My point was that if you have a problem with them dont have a whole thread dedicated towards bashing these types of caches. Quote Link to comment
+smokeeater908 Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 Nope it is not just you, I have one that I posted like for my 1 or 2 hide, but it has all went down hill from that.I don't hide anything anymore that is under a 2.5 on difficulty. For the most part the people in my area really like a challenge so I really try to give them one.I have had alot of praise on my caches since they are not your typical park and grab type cache. So I am with you and no I have gotten where I don't care about padding my numbers I try to find a good hunt. Quote Link to comment
Motorcycle_Mama Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 L amp P ost C ache Quote Link to comment
Andronicus Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 (edited) After over 160 finds, I have just recently found my forst LPC (Winstonsdad, that is a "Lamp Post Cache"). My 3 year old son loved it. I definatly could see that they may become anoying after 10 or 50 of them. (Try using a internet/GPS enabled cell phone; you will be able to see these from miles away using google maps' satalite view) Edit: I have not tried to avoid LPCs, just never actualy found one. Edited August 27, 2009 by Andronicus Quote Link to comment
Clan Riffster Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 2 points to ponder: 1. Think of the people who are in wheelchairs or need scooters to get around that want to enjoy this activity, too. LPCs are a great find for them. 2. Then when it's nearing the end of day 44 and you realize you haven't found a cache yet and you're going to blow your streak, a nice and easy LPC will look quite inviting. 2 counterpoints to ponder: 1. Folks who have physical disabilities don't usually lose whatever degree of appreciation for creativity that they had prior to becoming disabled. It is quite possible to create a cleverly hidden cache that folks stuck in a wheelchair can hunt for, without subjecting them to 500 acres of sweltering, exhaust laden fields of blacktop, dodging soccer moms in SUVs. As an ole fat cripple myself, I see the day coming when my physical mobility may become so impaired as to limit my hunts to only those with a low terrain rating. If that day comes to pass, I would hate to think that folks are creating lame hides just to give me another smiley. Cripples like creativity just as much as the next guy. LPCs are decidedly "not" great for "them", unless they happen to enjoy hunting them. (Post script: It just occurred to me that the term "lame" is synonymous with "crippled". Hopefully, this won't lead to folks hiding lame caches for us lame folks) 2. For those who incorporate a love of numbers, simply for the sake of those numbers, into their game play, that would certainly be a valid reason, (if reasons were needed), for the existence of such crappy hides. However, for those who prefer quality to quantity, (a rare breed these days), another mindless smiley does nothing but pollute the landscape. (Naturally, neither of these counterpoints invalidates the mantra of "Don't like 'em? Don't hunt 'em!") I ignore caches with names like "Always _____" Oddly enough, considering my earlier rantings, I actually own a Wally World LPC. ALWAYS Lame Quote Link to comment
+BlueDeuce Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 Oddly enough, considering my earlier rantings, I actually own a Wally World LPC. ALWAYS Lame Hey Riffster, I noted that the terrain is a 1.5. Quote Link to comment
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