+FatPants Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 You can get LNL's at Dollar Stores & Walmart. I've seen them there!!! All of the Wal-Marts around here recently stopped carrying them, sad, because they sold them for way less than anybody else. Quote Link to comment
+Houlagans Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 After reading this thread this morning, I thought I'd have a look when I was at our local Wal-Mart and I found that the 18 piece Starfrit lock-n-lock sets that had been previously selling for $19.99 are now on the clearance pile at $9.99. As well, most of the other plastic containers that usually line the shelves in the storage department were gone as well. So I bought 4 boxes of lock-n-locks. LOL I'm good for a while now. Add those to my pile of ammo cans and I should be able to hide for a while yet. I checked out the rubbermaid lock style containers while I was there, and I think that they wouldn't last nearly as long as the lock-n-lock style, so I passed on those ones. I then checked our local Dollarama and Giant Tiger stores for the lock-n-lock knock-offs. They were sadly lacking in those containers. It is a giant plasticware conspiracy to end geocaching, I tell ya!! Sarah, of SNSGKrieger Quote Link to comment
Clan Riffster Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 A while back, someone predicted that Snoogans would personally cause the death of geocaching. Maybe this is his first salvo? Could be he's buying up all the recyclable plastic on the planet for some dark, nefarious purpose? Quote Link to comment
+Houlagans Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 A while back, someone predicted that Snoogans would personally cause the death of geocaching. Maybe this is his first salvo? Could be he's buying up all the recyclable plastic on the planet for some dark, nefarious purpose? Uh oh! Maybe I shouldn't have said anything....If I go missing, please check all nearby ammo cans for my pieces. I guess I'll be my own signature item! Quote Link to comment
+Castle Mischief Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 You can get LNL's at Dollar Stores & Walmart. I've seen them there!!! It's been said before, but the plastic containers at Dollar Stores are not Lock-N-Lock brand. They are cheap knock-offs that will steal your wife, pawn your silver and put gum under park benches. Quote Link to comment
knowschad Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 A while back, someone predicted that Snoogans would personally cause the death of geocaching. Maybe this is his first salvo? Could be he's buying up all the recyclable plastic on the planet for some dark, nefarious purpose? I'd be more likely to suspect Vinnie buying them up to store his red mercury in. Quote Link to comment
+kingsting Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 You can get an ammo can for the price of a decent size lock -n lock - why bother? I actually have some here that I use for food storage. They work great for that too! Giant grocery stores still have them on the shelves. Quote Link to comment
+hukilaulau Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Just today I saw some L&L's in a local grocery store here in zip 11961. I bought one 1.2 qt container for 5.99 just so I could look at it closely. It does have "Hanacobi" on the bottom. I followed this link and it seems to be the real deal. I didn't order anything though, so it remains to be seen whether they're still active. Prices were a buck cheaper than I paid and there was one combination set offered. I've been using the "Snaplock" containers from Costco for a few years and they seem to be doing well. Some I've painted and some I've used cloth camo tape, including over the hinges to prevent them from eventually breaking. I've had some doing fine for over two years now. Quote Link to comment
knowschad Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 I actually have some here that I use for food storage. They work great for that too! GET OUT!!! Quote Link to comment
+LSUFan Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 I don't know if I should be giving up my secret L&L location in fear of there being a run on the store. Hmm, well, about 3 months ago I bought a 20 piece set at JC Penney's for I think it was $20 on sale. It was in the advertisement. JC Penney's has about 3 different sets (16 - 20 pieces, round and square). Check it out. Hey Slukster, thanks for the heads up on JC Penney. They have several different sets for $20 per. You can check them out online and then see if your local store has them in stock. Luckily mine did, and I sent the wife to pick up a couple of sets. http://www2.jcpenney.com/jcp/X6.aspx?DeptI...agpageview=true Quote Link to comment
+deercreekth Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Once of Wal Marts near me put them on clearance awhile back. I picked up a couple of packs of them before they disappeared. Quote Link to comment
+Kit Fox Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Yesterday I drove about 45 miles across the desert to replace three "L&Ls" due to UV damage and broken lid tabs. Even when camouflaged, and covered with rocks, "L&Ls" due poorly in hot and arid environments. I'm not said that they are disappearing, only peeved that I wasted money on flimsy containers. Your results may very. Quote Link to comment
+gof1 Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Yesterday I drove about 45 miles across the desert to replace three "L&Ls" due to UV damage and broken lid tabs. Even when camouflaged, and covered with rocks, "L&Ls" due poorly in hot and arid environments. I'm not said that they are disappearing, only peeved that I wasted money on flimsy containers. Your results may very. All about the right container in the right location. I have one that has been in place since Nov. '05. It is as good as the day I placed it. That's four Buffalo winters. Of all the LnLs I've used I've only had one problem. The contents of one got wet and that was when a cacher closed the corner of a ziploc in the seal. I've had the same trouble with an ammo can. Quote Link to comment
+briansnat Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Yesterday I drove about 45 miles across the desert to replace three "L&Ls" due to UV damage and broken lid tabs. Even when camouflaged, and covered with rocks, "L&Ls" due poorly in hot and arid environments. I'm not said that they are disappearing, only peeved that I wasted money on flimsy containers. Your results may very. All about the right container in the right location. I have one that has been in place since Nov. '05. It is as good as the day I placed it. That's four Buffalo winters. Of all the LnLs I've used I've only had one problem. The contents of one got wet and that was when a cacher closed the corner of a ziploc in the seal. I've had the same trouble with an ammo can. I have some that have been in the wild 3 and 4 years and are still going strong. They've survived 100+ degree and below zero days, monsoon rains, deep snow and numerousf finds. UV exposure is an issue with nearly any plastic container, but mine only see the light of day when they are found. They either have a coat of paint, or duct tape and are are not hidden where sunlight will find them. Quote Link to comment
+Kit Fox Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Yesterday I drove about 45 miles across the desert to replace three "L&Ls" due to UV damage and broken lid tabs. Even when camouflaged, and covered with rocks, "L&Ls" due poorly in hot and arid environments. I'm not said that they are disappearing, only peeved that I wasted money on flimsy containers. Your results may very. All about the right container in the right location. I have one that has been in place since Nov. '05. It is as good as the day I placed it. That's four Buffalo winters. Of all the LnLs I've used I've only had one problem. The contents of one got wet and that was when a cacher closed the corner of a ziploc in the seal. I've had the same trouble with an ammo can. I have some that have been in the wild 3 and 4 years and are still going strong. They've survived 100+ degree and below zero days, monsoon rains, deep snow and numerousf finds. UV exposure is an issue with nearly any plastic container, but mine only see the light of day when they are found. They either have a coat of paint, or duct tape and are are not hidden where sunlight will find them. My personal experience with hiding caches on the desert floor since 2004 is that re-painted cookie tins and ammo cans work best. I've tried cookie tins above 4000 feet elevation, and they end up wicking the snow inside of the containers, not much of an issue below 3000 feet ASL. If I had a garage full of ammo cans, I would use more of them. I tend to reserve my ammo cans for all my quality adventure caches. Quote Link to comment
+gof1 Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Yesterday I drove about 45 miles across the desert to replace three "L&Ls" due to UV damage and broken lid tabs. Even when camouflaged, and covered with rocks, "L&Ls" due poorly in hot and arid environments. I'm not said that they are disappearing, only peeved that I wasted money on flimsy containers. Your results may very. All about the right container in the right location. I have one that has been in place since Nov. '05. It is as good as the day I placed it. That's four Buffalo winters. Of all the LnLs I've used I've only had one problem. The contents of one got wet and that was when a cacher closed the corner of a ziploc in the seal. I've had the same trouble with an ammo can. I have some that have been in the wild 3 and 4 years and are still going strong. They've survived 100+ degree and below zero days, monsoon rains, deep snow and numerousf finds. UV exposure is an issue with nearly any plastic container, but mine only see the light of day when they are found. They either have a coat of paint, or duct tape and are are not hidden where sunlight will find them. My personal experience with hiding caches on the desert floor since 2004 is that re-painted cookie tins and ammo cans work best. I've tried cookie tins above 4000 feet elevation, and they end up wicking the snow inside of the containers, not much of an issue below 3000 feet ASL. If I had a garage full of ammo cans, I would use more of them. I tend to reserve my ammo cans for all my quality adventure caches. Yeah, hot & dry might be ok for hiding a cookie tin but I guaranty six months around here and it would be a rusty bucket of water. Just what I meant when I said it was about the right container in the right place. If I could I'd use only ammo cans, but the size and shape variations of the LnLs are hard to beat. I found one yesterday that was a small covered tin bucket, same kind of thing as a cookie tin, inside a cammo taped Ziplock. It was in better shape than I expected but still wet and rusty. Ever find one of those Ziplock containers? I bet they don't hold up any better in the dessert, do they? Quote Link to comment
+bittsen Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Yeah, hot & dry might be ok for hiding a cookie tin but I guaranty six months around here and it would be a rusty bucket of water. Just what I meant when I said it was about the right container in the right place. If I could I'd use only ammo cans, but the size and shape variations of the LnLs are hard to beat. I found one yesterday that was a small covered tin bucket, same kind of thing as a cookie tin, inside a cammo taped Ziplock. It was in better shape than I expected but still wet and rusty. Ever find one of those Ziplock containers? I bet they don't hold up any better in the dessert, do they? How about a lock n lock INSIDE a cookie tin. Now we're talkin! Quote Link to comment
+Kit Fox Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Yeah, hot & dry might be ok for hiding a cookie tin but I guaranty six months around here and it would be a rusty bucket of water. Just what I meant when I said it was about the right container in the right place. If I could I'd use only ammo cans, but the size and shape variations of the LnLs are hard to beat. I found one yesterday that was a small covered tin bucket, same kind of thing as a cookie tin, inside a cammo taped Ziplock. It was in better shape than I expected but still wet and rusty. Ever find one of those Ziplock containers? I bet they don't hold up any better in the dessert, do they? How about a lock n lock INSIDE a cookie tin. Now we're talkin! We have a desert variation where someone uses a plastic container for the cache, with a metal coffee can over the top of the plastic container. Thankfully, in almost 1500 finds, i've never once found a ziplock bag cache. Quote Link to comment
+welch Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Market economics, when a great product comes out, all the knock-offs kill their sales. Only when a patent or copyright is not there to protect the product/idea.......... If you compare the old L&L with the newer sterlite clones, the old ones have a sort of slot in the tab so it can pass over a sort of stud and still have the end of the tab grab the container rim. The clones have no stud, they just simply snap down and grip the rim. perhaps this is different enough to avoid any patents? I take that back. I noticed some clones at the Dollar General that are branded 'farberware' that seemed to be made exactly like L&L. Hollow square gasket, that seals on top of the rim. And slotted tabs that lock on/over tabs made into the side of the base. Too bad they seem to be made more rigid plastic (or maybe they just have horrible quality control). Of the ones on the shelf I seen, about half had visibly warp tabs. so much so that they either wouldn't lock down, or would quickly unsnap on their own Also found a grocery store that has a few sets of L&L . oddly this store is part of a chain and others in the chain don't have L&L anymore.... Maybe its old stock??? Quote Link to comment
+Castle Mischief Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Yesterday I drove about 45 miles across the desert to replace three "L&Ls" due to UV damage and broken lid tabs. Even when camouflaged, and covered with rocks, "L&Ls" due poorly in hot and arid environments. I'm not said that they are disappearing, only peeved that I wasted money on flimsy containers. Your results may very. You can't really blame the quality of the container. You're forcing it to operate outside of it's normal environment and beyond its spec. Quote Link to comment
+CCWelch Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 I have tried the Rubbermaid ones and they hold up better than the regular Lock and Locks, especially in winter but they do not have the permanent sticker. Quote Link to comment
+Knight2000 Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 I found them at my grocery store last week. Ammo cans are cheaper for me. Large L&L (pretty darn big) were $10 and I can get two 50 cal. ammo cans for that. Quote Link to comment
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