+SD Marc Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 I just adopted 2 caches near my home. Both are subscriber-only, none of my others are. Both have the option - Read the audit log (see who viewed your cache) - which none of my others have. Is this only available for subscriber-only caches? Please enilighten me. Thanks! Link to comment
GOF and Bacall Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 Yup. For subscriber only caches. Link to comment
Motorcycle_Mama Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 Yes, it is only for subscriber only caches. Link to comment
+SD Marc Posted June 9, 2009 Author Share Posted June 9, 2009 (edited) Doesn't that seem arbitrary, considering I am the owner, regardless of whether it's subscriber-only or not? Edited June 9, 2009 by SD Marc Link to comment
Motorcycle_Mama Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 Nope. It's part of the "benefits" of designating the cache as PMO. Audit logs are only available for PMO caches. Link to comment
+canpaddle Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 Nope. It's part of the "benefits" of designating the cache as PMO. Audit logs are only available for PMO caches. Keep checking it that way you will get more views haha lol Link to comment
+SD Marc Posted June 10, 2009 Author Share Posted June 10, 2009 Nope. It's part of the "benefits" of designating the cache as PMO. Audit logs are only available for PMO caches. Excluding fellow cachers has benefits? Link to comment
+gof1 Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 Nope. It's part of the "benefits" of designating the cache as PMO. Audit logs are only available for PMO caches. Excluding fellow cachers has benefits? You can always remove the PMO restriction. The choice is yours now that you own the caches. Link to comment
+SD Marc Posted June 10, 2009 Author Share Posted June 10, 2009 Nope. It's part of the "benefits" of designating the cache as PMO. Audit logs are only available for PMO caches. Excluding fellow cachers has benefits? You can always remove the PMO restriction. The choice is yours now that you own the caches. I'm aware of that, I thought about it, and I may still do it. For now, I didn't want to alter the original owner's cache too much, they're part of a larger series. Since I notice that "benefit" I thought I'd ask. Still not sure why PMO caches deserve this benefit. Link to comment
+gof1 Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 Not sure why but it is what it is. Perhaps someone from frog central could chime in with an answer? Link to comment
+Stunod Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 Still not sure why PMO caches deserve this benefit. I don't know why ANY cache deserves this "benefit". The audit log is far from accurate if you think it shows you who looked at your cache...there are many ways to see the details of a cache without visiting the cache page. Link to comment
+Prime Suspect Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 Still not sure why PMO caches deserve this benefit. I don't know why ANY cache deserves this "benefit". The audit log is far from accurate if you think it shows you who looked at your cache...there are many ways to see the details of a cache without visiting the cache page. It's just security theater. Link to comment
+gof1 Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 Still not sure why PMO caches deserve this benefit. I don't know why ANY cache deserves this "benefit". The audit log is far from accurate if you think it shows you who looked at your cache...there are many ways to see the details of a cache without visiting the cache page. It's just security theater. I've had caches listed as PMO before. The audit log never made me think the cache was any safer. It was interesting to see some of who was looking at the cache. Makes you wonder when you see someone from half way around the world was looking at your cache. Why that cache? How did they come across your listing? In the end though the log is useless past that mild bit of curiosity. Link to comment
Mr.Yuck Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 Still not sure why PMO caches deserve this benefit. I don't know why ANY cache deserves this "benefit". The audit log is far from accurate if you think it shows you who looked at your cache...there are many ways to see the details of a cache without visiting the cache page. It's just security theater. And invasion of web-surfing privacy. But I digress. I could look it up, but I'm sure I've heard on more than one occasion from Groundspeak folk in these forums that the entire reason MOC's were invented was to combat cache piracy (a premium member is much less likely to steal geocaches). And the audit log is an attempt to further increase the security. Be it security theater or not. Link to comment
+mickaxl Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 Would it not be an even better benefit if it was made available to Premium Members rather than to PMO caches. It might encourage more people to become PM. Link to comment
+klossner Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 Back in the day, you could see the whole page for a non-PMO cache without being logged in at all. Audit logs could therefore be implemented only for PMO caches. Now that you have to log in to see the coordinates for any cache, it would make sense to extend audit logs to non-PMOs. But I don't imagine this will ever percolate to the top of any lacky's to-do list. All of my puzzle caches are PMOs so I can cackle over the audit logs. One guy looked at my hardest puzzle over 300 times before solving it. Link to comment
+Stunod Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 Now that you have to log in to see the coordinates for any cache, it would make sense to extend audit logs to non-PMOs. But I don't imagine this will ever percolate to the top of any lacky's to-do list. All of my puzzle caches are PMOs so I can cackle over the audit logs. One guy looked at my hardest puzzle over 300 times before solving it. I can see the full cache page for your PMO cache without showing up on the audit log. I could look at that puzzle cache 1000 times and you would never know it. Heck I could log a find on it without ever visiting the page. The audit log is NOT a true representation of who has seen your cache details. Not even close. Link to comment
+Delta68 Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 The audit log on one of our PMO caches shows that it was viewed by iryshe Mark Link to comment
+the hermit crabs Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 All of my puzzle caches are PMOs so I can cackle over the audit logs. Which is why I wish that email notifications for new caches included a note indicating that they are PMO, in which case I'd never click the links to them. Link to comment
+3doxies Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 Also could make a handy way to make the paranoid even more so. Link to comment
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