+bittsen Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 I have a Magellan Explorist 500 and it works for me but my friend is looking for a GPS for geocaching and he's not as computer saavy as I am. His budget is $200 or less and wants to know what the group would recommend. Thanks Quote Link to comment
+briansnat Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 I would have said the DeLorme PN20, but since your friend isn't very computer savvy I'd say the Garmin Venture HC. It can be found for around $120 and I've seen refurbs for $89 on Ebay. With a $200 budget that leaves money for mapping software. For that unit I'd go with Mapsource Topo. Quote Link to comment
NordicMan Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 ..coming in at just under $200 is the brand spanking new Lowrance Endura Outback, you might want to check it out. Color touchscreen & should be packing the latest technologies,, a brand new model for 2009! http://www.tigergps.com/lowranceenduraobk.html Quote Link to comment
+pigpen4x4 Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 GPS Discount.com has the Legend HCx for 199.99. Great unit, well proven. For about 25 bucks more he can get a Vista with electronic compass. Some folks like a EC (including yours truly) and some don't. It's a personal choice. Quote Link to comment
kchunks Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 Have your friend compare the Lowrance Endura Out&Back (which should hit shelves in June), the DeLorme PN-20, and the Garmin Legend HCx and see which one he likes more. I have a DeLorme PN20 and I like it. It did take some fiddling (but very little) to realize everything and I have had to post a question or two on the DeLorme forums asking how to use some features of their map software but it really is not that difficult. DeLorme has a number of videos on youtube showing how to work the device and they're quite helpful. Map software and a GPSr for under $150 is hard to beat. Quote Link to comment
+Redwoods Mtn Biker Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 I agree with briansnat. The Venture HC is a great unit. This plus MapSource Topo US would be a good choice for your friend. Quote Link to comment
+Rockin Roddy Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 (edited) I would have said the DeLorme PN20, but since your friend isn't very computer savvy I'd say the Garmin Venture HC. It can be found for around $120 and I've seen refurbs for $89 on Ebay. With a $200 budget that leaves money for mapping software. For that unit I'd go with Mapsource Topo. I WILL say the PN-20 and, get this, I am NOT computer savvy at all!! Simple to use, everything you need right in the box and all for under $130...can't beat this! If you could swing a bit more, I'd say the PN-40 is even better since you can auto-route better with that (the 20 can as well, but screen redraw is a bit slow making it not the best for routing), but the PN-20 is a great unit with advanced features you can learn at your own pace! Best for under $200....if the Venture or Vista could do paperless (completely paperless including logging via field notes), I might recommend them. They can't and they also can't provide aerial imagery. It's all a matter of what YOU want from the unit when it comes to best! Edited May 28, 2009 by Rockin Roddy Quote Link to comment
+StarBrand Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 Its got a few caveats but I have to agree - you just can't get quite as much for the money as you can with the PN-20. But I also agree with Briansnat that you need to be a bit tech savvy to get the most out of the software. Next best bet is either the Venture HC or the Legend HCx - from Garmin. Both Feature USB computer connections, long battery life, Geocaching mode (not paperless), nice form factor, mapping abilities, high sensitivity. The legend also throws in expanadable memory and the abilty to autoroute with the right maps. Check out free maps for your Garmin at: This Site. Quote Link to comment
+Frank Broughton Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 I agree with briansnat. The Venture HC is a great unit. This plus MapSource Topo US would be a good choice for your friend. The Venture HC can be had for $69 (recertified): http://www.adorama.com/GPGETVEHCR.html with free shipping. Quote Link to comment
+Rockin Roddy Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 Its got a few caveats but I have to agree - you just can't get quite as much for the money as you can with the PN-20. But I also agree with Briansnat that you need to be a bit tech savvy to get the most out of the software. Next best bet is either the Venture HC or the Legend HCx - from Garmin. Both Feature USB computer connections, long battery life, Geocaching mode (not paperless), nice form factor, mapping abilities, high sensitivity. The legend also throws in expanadable memory and the abilty to autoroute with the right maps. Check out free maps for your Garmin at: This Site. Fair assessment! The unit itself is simple to use, but the TOPO software isn't quite as easy (I've yet to get my upgrade to TOPO 8, so I can't say if it's made simpler or not). Loading subscription maps (not the topo maps provided, they are pre-cut on disks) via TOPO 7 is a bit of work, but not too hard to learn with the step-by-step guide listed in the DeLorme forums. One of these days, I will get my upgrade and then will report on that! The free maps do make the Garmins a bit more appealing, maps are expensive if you don't know where to go for the free ones! Quote Link to comment
+Team CowboyPapa Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 (edited) ....., but the TOPO software isn't quite as easy (I've yet to get my upgrade to TOPO 8, so I can't say if it's made simpler or not). Loading subscription maps (not the topo maps provided, they are pre-cut on disks) via TOPO 7 is a bit of work, but not too hard to learn with the step-by-step guide listed in the DeLorme forums. ..... While the above may be a valid assessment of the Topo 7 application on a standalone basis, I'm not certain that it is relative on a comparative basis. That is, those Topo 7 features can't be done with other software and other handhelds, AFAIK. Therefore, if you choose to limit Topo 7 and the PN-40 to only the capabilities of other handhelds, what is the issue of lack of simplicity or a little more work. Those things that do require a little more work, downloading subscription imagery and loading on a PN-40, can't be done with other handhelds and so what is the relevance of comparing them? Edited May 28, 2009 by Team CowboyPapa Quote Link to comment
+casey97 Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 http://forums.Groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=168470 http://forums.Groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=176734 http://forums.gpsreview.net/viewtopic.php?t=6326 Quote Link to comment
+Team CowboyPapa Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 http://forums.Groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=168470 http://forums.Groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=176734 http://forums.gpsreview.net/viewtopic.php?t=6326 Topical informaion. Anybody got a discount code for paper? Toner? Ink? Quote Link to comment
+Rockin Roddy Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 http://forums.Groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=168470 http://forums.Groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=176734 http://forums.gpsreview.net/viewtopic.php?t=6326 After checking two of the three links you posted, I must say that you should try to post up-to-date info. Things have drastically changed with the PN series in the last year or more, your links are waaay outdated and misleading! Quote Link to comment
user13371 Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 (edited) The free maps do make the Garmins a bit more appealing, maps are expensive if you don't know where to go for the free ones!Google "free garmin maps" for about four million hits The trick is finding the good ones. GPSFileDepot is a good jumping off point, and I've been happy with Ibcyus USA: http://www.gpsfiledepot.com/maps/view/19 Edited May 29, 2009 by lee_rimar Quote Link to comment
+Maingray Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 (edited) Vista or Legend HCX. Well proven, simple to use but has many deeper features. Loading maps from the huge numbers available for free is a breeze and premium (superb) road routing solutions available. PN-20 is feature packed, yes, but the PC part is way over complex and the GPS unit is slow as molasses*. If you want to buy a Delorme unit, buy the PN-40 (but >$200). *taken straight from the fridge Edited May 29, 2009 by Maingray Quote Link to comment
+dakboy Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 PN-20 is feature packed, yes, but the PC part is way over complex and the GPS unit is slow as molasses*. If you want to buy a Delorme unit, buy the PN-40 (but >$200).Depends on what you're using the GPS for. I got my PN-40 in late February and I've fired up Topo7 a handful of times. I haven't been using it for cutting maps, as the web-based map service from DeLorme has satisfied my needs thus far. I don't do track logs & lots of waypoints to "process" back at home, so I just plain haven't needed it. Don't forget about the PN-30 coming out soon. Price-wise it'll slot in between the -20 & -40, and is basically the -40 minus the electronic compass & barometric altimeter. In a green case, which will be less visually offensive to those who prize aesthetics over performance. Quote Link to comment
user13371 Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 ...PN-30...In a green case, which will be less visually offensive...Unless you don't like green Quote Link to comment
+Rockin Roddy Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 Vista or Legend HCX. Well proven, simple to use but has many deeper features. Loading maps from the huge numbers available for free is a breeze and premium (superb) road routing solutions available. PN-20 is feature packed, yes, but the PC part is way over complex and the GPS unit is slow as molasses*. If you want to buy a Delorme unit, buy the PN-40 (but >$200). *taken straight from the fridge The trade-off being that the PN-20 is paperless while the Garmins are good for routing. Remember that the PN-20 does route, but not very well (the slow part being the map redraw)! Speaking of deeper features, I believe the PN has many as well, for those who need them! Quote Link to comment
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