+goat13 Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 Not a huge deal, but when you race out of the house before work to get a FTF and when you get home the 2nd to find has logged it first. It's a little disheartening if you're keeping a stats page. Perhaps someone higher up could make an option on the first log for the FTF. That way it's not quickest to log but honest cachers can rightly not claim the FTF. Quote Link to comment
jholly Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 Not a huge deal, but when you race out of the house before work to get a FTF and when you get home the 2nd to find has logged it first. It's a little disheartening if you're keeping a stats page. Perhaps someone higher up could make an option on the first log for the FTF. That way it's not quickest to log but honest cachers can rightly not claim the FTF. The first to sign the LOGBOOK is the FTF. I have no problem at all being the third or fourth to log online after I was the first to sign the logbook. Several times others have acknowledged they were not the first to sign the logbook. And since I generally get the FTF earlier in the day but don't log online until later in the evening it is almost guaranteed I won't be the first on the cache page. But you know what? GC.com does not track or care about FTF's, so go ahead and claim the FTF on your stats page. I'm not going to squawk and I really don't think any one else is going to complain. Jim Quote Link to comment
Tsu Doh Nimh Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 Not a huge deal, but when you race out of the house before work to get a FTF and when you get home the 2nd to find has logged it first. It's a little disheartening if you're keeping a stats page. Who cares? Answer: only you. So for your own stats you can add it as an FTF. FTF is not recognized by the site. Why is it that people try to turn a perfectly fun activity like geocaching into a contest? If you want to do a contest, go become a marathon runner or something and leave the rest of us alone. Quote Link to comment
+goat13 Posted May 27, 2009 Author Share Posted May 27, 2009 Not a huge deal, but when you race out of the house before work to get a FTF and when you get home the 2nd to find has logged it first. It's a little disheartening if you're keeping a stats page. Who cares? Answer: only you. So for your own stats you can add it as an FTF. FTF is not recognized by the site. Why is it that people try to turn a perfectly fun activity like geocaching into a contest? If you want to do a contest, go become a marathon runner or something and leave the rest of us alone. To the 1st replier thanks I was thinking about doing a stats page by logicweave ( cache stats ) and didn't know it worked that way. I assumed it took that info for FTF like it takes the other info, from a pocket query..... To the 2nd replier.... Calm down bud, I just had 7 caches published recently and had 40 visits in less than 24 hours by people trying to get FTF . Everyone plays the game their own way, just like we live life. Some rush through while others take their time and some talk before they think..... I wish you all the best in this great sport of ours, I was just asking a valid question I didn't have an answer too, not starting a fight. Quote Link to comment
+goat13 Posted May 27, 2009 Author Share Posted May 27, 2009 Not a huge deal, but when you race out of the house before work to get a FTF and when you get home the 2nd to find has logged it first. It's a little disheartening if you're keeping a stats page. Who cares? Answer: only you. So for your own stats you can add it as an FTF. FTF is not recognized by the site. Why is it that people try to turn a perfectly fun activity like geocaching into a contest? If you want to do a contest, go become a marathon runner or something and leave the rest of us alone. To the 1st replier thanks I was thinking about doing a stats page by logicweave ( cache stats ) and didn't know it worked that way. I assumed it took that info for FTF like it takes the other info, from a pocket query..... To the 2nd replier.... Calm down bud, I just had 7 caches published recently and had 40 visits in less than 24 hours by people trying to get FTF . Everyone plays the game their own way, just like we live life. Some rush through while others take their time and some talk before they think..... I wish you all the best in this great sport of ours, I was just asking a valid question I didn't have an answer too, not starting a fight. While on the subject any thoughts on the best stats page publisher? Quote Link to comment
+Chrysalides Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 While on the subject any thoughts on the best stats page publisher? I've only come across 3 choices: 1. INATN - http://www.itsnotaboutthenumbers.com/ 2. Cachestats - http://www.logicweave.com/cachestats.html 3. GSAK's FindStatGen macro http://www.gsak.net Personally I like GSAK's macro best - you can tweak it a lot, and you can edit the macro code to make it do exactly what you like. I don't bother putting it on my profile page, though, because I figure it's mainly me who's interested in it. Besides, I'm lazy Quote Link to comment
+dakboy Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 While on the subject any thoughts on the best stats page publisher? I've only come across 3 choices: 1. INATN - http://www.itsnotaboutthenumbers.com/ 2. Cachestats - http://www.logicweave.com/cachestats.html 3. GSAK's FindStatGen macro http://www.gsak.net 4. GCStatistic - http://www.macdefender.org/products/GCStatistic/ Quote Link to comment
+Knight2000 Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 You still get the FTF prize whether or not you log it first. Quote Link to comment
knowschad Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 Why is it that people try to turn a perfectly fun activity like geocaching into a contest? If you want to do a contest, go become a marathon runner or something and leave the rest of us alone. Ouch!! "Leave the rest of us alone"? That's cold, dude. Besides, why is it that people try to turn a perfectly fun activity like running into a contest? To the OP... stats generators (all of them that I know of) do a text search for "FTF" in your logs. In fact, if you've ever logged "Tried to get FTF but SpeedDemon beat me to it", that is likely to count as an FTF for you by most stats generators. Quote Link to comment
jholly Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 Why is it that people try to turn a perfectly fun activity like geocaching into a contest? If you want to do a contest, go become a marathon runner or something and leave the rest of us alone. Ouch!! "Leave the rest of us alone"? That's cold, dude. Besides, why is it that people try to turn a perfectly fun activity like running into a contest? To the OP... stats generators (all of them that I know of) do a text search for "FTF" in your logs. In fact, if you've ever logged "Tried to get FTF but SpeedDemon beat me to it", that is likely to count as an FTF for you by most stats generators. Actually the GSAK macro looks for the FTF flag in the database it is being run against. The flag has to be set manually. Jim Quote Link to comment
+dakboy Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 Why is it that people try to turn a perfectly fun activity like geocaching into a contest? If you want to do a contest, go become a marathon runner or something and leave the rest of us alone. Ouch!! "Leave the rest of us alone"? That's cold, dude. Besides, why is it that people try to turn a perfectly fun activity like running into a contest? To the OP... stats generators (all of them that I know of) do a text search for "FTF" in your logs. In fact, if you've ever logged "Tried to get FTF but SpeedDemon beat me to it", that is likely to count as an FTF for you by most stats generators. And the better ones will let you flag/unflag FTFs (and remember your setting in a database) manually to boot. Quote Link to comment
Skippermark Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 Not a huge deal, but when you race out of the house before work to get a FTF and when you get home the 2nd to find has logged it first. It's a little disheartening if you're keeping a stats page. Perhaps someone higher up could make an option on the first log for the FTF. That way it's not quickest to log but honest cachers can rightly not claim the FTF. Hey goat13, Logiweave's program looks for user-defined keywords and any log that you've posted with the keywords is flagged as an FTF. The default for that program is FTF. If you say something like, "I was hoping to be the FTF, but I actually found it fourth..." the program would snag that and acount it. You can always change the keyword if you want to use something different. Quote Link to comment
+out12 Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 Logicweaves program flags on a keyword, like FTF, but there is then a checkbox to select those that are actual FTF that then show in the stats generated by the program. Quote Link to comment
+Chrysalides Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 Actually the GSAK macro looks for the FTF flag in the database it is being run against. The flag has to be set manually. Isn't there also a macro to search through your logs for the characters "FTF" and set the flag for you? Actually, isn't there a macro for just about anything in GSAK? Quote Link to comment
jholly Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 Actually the GSAK macro looks for the FTF flag in the database it is being run against. The flag has to be set manually. Isn't there also a macro to search through your logs for the characters "FTF" and set the flag for you? Actually, isn't there a macro for just about anything in GSAK? Yeah there might be. I think there are few areas that are in need of a macro or two, but right now I can't think of any Jim Quote Link to comment
+hukilaulau Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 (edited) While on the subject any thoughts on the best stats page publisher? I've only come across 3 choices: 1. INATN - http://www.itsnotaboutthenumbers.com/ 2. Cachestats - http://www.logicweave.com/cachestats.html 3. GSAK's FindStatGen macro http://www.gsak.net 4. GCStatistic - http://www.macdefender.org/products/GCStatistic/ http://www.mygeocachingprofile.com/ Here's one I just looked at yesterday. I really like it except it doesn't have the bar graph for every month year by year. I really like that feature. Otherwise it's got some cool stuff the others don't have. Edited May 28, 2009 by hukilaulau Quote Link to comment
+beejay&esskay Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 While on the subject any thoughts on the best stats page publisher? I've only come across 3 choices: 1. INATN - http://www.itsnotaboutthenumbers.com/ Since your initial inquiry was FTFs, you need to know that INATN (as much as I like them) does nothing with FTFs. Quote Link to comment
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