OpinioNate Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Greetings cachers. For this month's code release we offer a major upgrade to the Caches Along a Route feature. In the new version of CAaR, you are presented with a tool for creating routes online using Google Maps. Create a route between 2 points up to 500 miles in length. Play around with detours from the route and you'll be surprised that a "route" can even be shaped as a square! Basic members can experiment with route creation, too. In addition to many infrastructure tweaks, these bugs were fixed: Release Notes - Geocaching.com: May 2009 10274: Bulgarian Cache Note Added Bulgarian cache note 9607: Banned premium member still receives bookmark list notifications Banned member no longer receives bookmark notifications 10209: Caches that have not been reviewed show on hotel page Unpublished caches no longer appear on hotel pages 10023: Change "archive" to "delete" in warning dialogue when deleting PQ Changed "archive" to "delete" when deleting a PQ 9570: Cannot edit cache types for 'cache along a route' pocket query Fixed issue with CAAR PQs not allowing edit of cache type Please let us know of any issues you find with this update. As usual, known bugs should be discussed in another thread. Thanks! Link to comment
+salbedo Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Hy, Is the downtime because of that release? And how long is the downtime? Thanks Salbedo Link to comment
+NinjaCacher! Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 I can't see this new tool? You're too fast rutson, you should wait until after the release Geocaching.com is temporarily down for maintenance. We apologize for any inconvenience that this might cause. While you are waiting, may we suggest: Link to comment
+Team420_Georgia Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Yes--the site is still down 2:25ET...how long until it's back up?? Thanks. Hy, Is the downtime because of that release? And how long is the downtime? Thanks Salbedo Link to comment
+Frank Broughton Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Nate, I noticed you have numbers next to the various bug fixes. Is there a public listing of these bugs available for the public to view? If not, may I suggest: http://www.bugzilla.org/ It is used by 899 others as of the 11th. It would be a great addition and a good PR move for GS to take. Link to comment
+Novac Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Huzzah! The CAaR feature definitely needed this overhaul, particularly since Google Earth would not let you alter the driving directions it gave you. I'm looking forward to saying "good bye" to manually combining Google Earth KML files Link to comment
+Tequila Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 I was hoping the new PQ system would be more important than cache along a route. Link to comment
+deercreekth Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Any chance that one of the "many infrastructure tweaks" could be to add support for DeLorme's Cache Register? Link to comment
+KJcachers Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 nice time to take the site down, right before Geowoodstock VII, when people are trying to get ready for the trip. (maybe even trying to set up a CAaR) Link to comment
+Raine Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 (maybe even trying to set up a CAaR) Yah.. now it's going to be even easier for people to create their CAaR! Link to comment
+ftjak Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Can anyone tell me how long the web site is going to be down and tell me why they take it down right in the middle of the day? ftjak Link to comment
OpinioNate Posted May 20, 2009 Author Share Posted May 20, 2009 Can anyone tell me how long the web site is going to be down and tell me why they take it down right in the middle of the day? ftjak It was only down for about 30 minutes, and is now back up. It is a bit slow, however, which may be what you're referring to. We're investigating the cause now. Link to comment
Rhialto Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 OpinioNate, what about bug 4008? I tried asking you by PM but you still haven't read my message sent Apr 28th, neither the reminder I sent 2 weeks after (May 13th) so there am I asking in public. Thank you. Link to comment
+Lil Elephants Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Can anyone tell me how long the web site is going to be down and tell me why they take it down right in the middle of the day? ftjak Website is up it's just *really* slow... Link to comment
+ftjak Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Yeah I guess it is a bit slower how about so slow I can't get on at all and I have high speed internet. That is the understatement of the day. Link to comment
+mtn-man Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 As usual, known bugs should be discussed in another thread. Please stay on topic. Only ask questions about the current release please. Link to comment
+dakboy Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Wow, CAaR is kind of picky about how you enter the start and destination. I tried zipcode to city, state and got an error; had to do city, state to city, state. Beats Google Earth though. Link to comment
+beejay&esskay Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 (edited) Wow, CAaR is kind of picky about how you enter the start and destination. I tried zipcode to city, state and got an error; had to do city, state to city, state. Beats Google Earth though. (Edited to add: OK, I little more reading required. I think there should be an error message if you leave out "to") Yeah, I tried ZIP code alone because of "You may use any combination of street address, state/province, country and postal code." and got an error message. Evidently not "any combination". It didn't like "richmond, indiana" either. Maybe I'll make it happy at some point. Edited May 20, 2009 by beejay&esskay Link to comment
+amianda Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 is anyone else having trouble searching via the main geocaching page? when i type in a city or a zip i get sent back to the main page, not to a search results page. Frustrating because I'm trying to head out to a friend's place and do some quick caching with her. Oh well, better luck next time. Thanks for updates! Link to comment
+baer2006 Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Website is up it's just *really* slow... It's not "up" in any useful sense of the word! It takes almost forever to load any page, and all actual cache pages only result in "An Error Has Occurred! Your request has resulted in an error. You may choose to retry your previous request. Or you may tell us what you were doing when this error occurred." Great "maintenance" !! Link to comment
+beejay&esskay Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 So route PQs can only select distances in 1/2 mile increments? I see that as a loss. I used to fine-tune my PQs to keep close to 500 caches. Link to comment
Moun10Bike Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 The range around the route that you can set and visualize in the CAaR planner is only for help in eyeballing the distance you want. It does not translate to the actual route PQ settings, which can be adjusted to whatever value you want as before. Link to comment
+ftjak Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Same old story they try and fix things that aren't broken and cause more problems. Link to comment
+obxnomad Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Can anyone tell me how long the web site is going to be down and tell me why they take it down right in the middle of the day? ftjak It was only down for about 30 minutes, and is now back up. It is a bit slow, however, which may be what you're referring to. We're investigating the cause now. A bit slow? Perhaps it may help tp research what may happen before it actually does happen. Link to comment
+beejay&esskay Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 (edited) The range around the route that you can set and visualize in the CAaR planner is only for help in eyeballing the distance you want. It does not translate to the actual route PQ settings, which can be adjusted to whatever value you want as before. OK, I've been wrong once today so maybe you are right. I thought when I went to edit an existing route PQ that I had to choose in a drop-down list, not enter a value. And I would verify now, but site response is horrible so I'll check later. (Must be the 200 KML users.) [Edited to add: Drop down list for distance when editing an existing route PQ. Doubt it is different with a new one, but maybe... That is a loss. I hope they fix it.] Edited May 20, 2009 by beejay&esskay Link to comment
OpinioNate Posted May 20, 2009 Author Share Posted May 20, 2009 I'll elaborate on my "site is slow" comment a little. Microsoft had 12 hotfixes for us to apply and surprise of surprises, they aren't working right. Until we're able to sort out the issue I'm afraid you'll experience various levels of site performance from "slow but usable" to "omg shoot me". Everything is dropped here until we're back online 100%. Thank you for your patience. Link to comment
+ftjak Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Good old Microsoft....the bane of the computer world.....can't live with them can't liv e without them. Link to comment
+Semper Questio Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 I don't know if this has to do with the new release, but I just tried to modify an existing route and kept getting this error: Server Error in '/' Application. Runtime Error Description: An application error occurred on the server. The current custom error settings for this application prevent the details of the application error from being viewed remotely (for security reasons). It could, however, be viewed by browsers running on the local server machine. Details: To enable the details of this specific error message to be viewable on remote machines, please create a <customErrors> tag within a "web.config" configuration file located in the root directory of the current web application. This <customErrors> tag should then have its "mode" attribute set to "Off". <!-- Web.Config Configuration File --> <configuration> <system.web> <customErrors mode="Off"/> </system.web> </configuration> Notes: The current error page you are seeing can be replaced by a custom error page by modifying the "defaultRedirect" attribute of the application's <customErrors> configuration tag to point to a custom error page URL. <!-- Web.Config Configuration File --> <configuration> <system.web> <customErrors mode="RemoteOnly" defaultRedirect="mycustompage.htm"/> </system.web> </configuration> Link to comment
+Gushoneybun Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 When I try to send a message to a member it errors and states: Column 'AllowHtmlEmails' does not belong to table Table. Link to comment
+jtbrady01 Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 When I try to send a message to a member it errors and states: Column 'AllowHtmlEmails' does not belong to table Table. I get that message on Firefox. IE will let me send the message. Unfortunately, it's still sending and it's been over 10 minutes and it hasn't timed out yet. Link to comment
+Semper Questio Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 I don't know if this has to do with the new release, but I just tried to modify an existing route and kept getting this error: Server Error in '/' Application. Runtime Error Description: An application error occurred on the server. The current custom error settings for this application prevent the details of the application error from being viewed remotely (for security reasons). It could, however, be viewed by browsers running on the local server machine. Details: To enable the details of this specific error message to be viewable on remote machines, please create a <customErrors> tag within a "web.config" configuration file located in the root directory of the current web application. This <customErrors> tag should then have its "mode" attribute set to "Off". <!-- Web.Config Configuration File --> <configuration> <system.web> <customErrors mode="Off"/> </system.web> </configuration> Notes: The current error page you are seeing can be replaced by a custom error page by modifying the "defaultRedirect" attribute of the application's <customErrors> configuration tag to point to a custom error page URL. <!-- Web.Config Configuration File --> <configuration> <system.web> <customErrors mode="RemoteOnly" defaultRedirect="mycustompage.htm"/> </system.web> </configuration> Seems to be workin now. Thanks to whomever did whatever they did! Link to comment
+Frank Broughton Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Same old story they try and fix things that aren't broken and cause more problems. Come on now, lets give the team some slack. I just updated a few apps on a couple of my sites and it went well. BUT I did not have hundreds of users trying to use the site while I did the updates. (Plus updates are SO much easier and reliable with CentOS / cPanel) than the platform used here. There is no good time for GS to make updates, no matter what time they pick it will have an effect to someone in the world. So gain, lets keep the sny remarks out of this thread for this months updates PLEASE! I am sure Raine, Nate and and the team are doing the best they can under the parameters they have to work with. Link to comment
+Gushoneybun Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 When I try to send a message to a member it errors and states: Column 'AllowHtmlEmails' does not belong to table Table. I get that message on Firefox. IE will let me send the message. Unfortunately, it's still sending and it's been over 10 minutes and it hasn't timed out yet. I am using IE8. But it now seems to be working Link to comment
+speedysk1 Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 I'll elaborate on my "site is slow" comment a little. Microsoft had 12 hotfixes for us to apply and surprise of surprises, they aren't working right. Until we're able to sort out the issue I'm afraid you'll experience various levels of site performance from "slow but usable" to "omg shoot me". Everything is dropped here until we're back online 100%. Thank you for your patience. Windoze??? Really??? Why aren't you guys using a real operating system....Like Linux. Good luck with the "hotfixes". Link to comment
+Zor Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 I'll elaborate on my "site is slow" comment a little. Microsoft had 12 hotfixes for us to apply and surprise of surprises, they aren't working right. Until we're able to sort out the issue I'm afraid you'll experience various levels of site performance from "slow but usable" to "omg shoot me". Everything is dropped here until we're back online 100%. Thank you for your patience. Windoze??? Really??? Why aren't you guys using a real operating system....Like Linux. Good luck with the "hotfixes". Nothing works for me sometimes and other times it's brutally slow. The only question I have is why GC chooses to do these updates in the middle of the day? Any other reputable sitemaster does this stuff during non-peak hours. This was definitely not done during non-peak hours. I'm not griping at folks just wondering why the decision was made to do it during regular business hours? Link to comment
+Raine Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 (edited) We're a global game. Open 24/7 to the world so it's hard to decide a window of opportunity when it won't "effect" someone. We're in the process of rolling back the "fixes" Microsoft install on our servers and will have things back to normal in the next few hours. The site will be slow, but we are working as fast as we can. Thank you for your patience! -Raine ** edited to figure out if I wanted to use the word effect or affect +sigh+ ** Edited May 20, 2009 by Raine Link to comment
+The Blorenges Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Nothing works for me sometimes and other times it's brutally slow. The only question I have is why GC chooses to do these updates in the middle of the day? Any other reputable sitemaster does this stuff during non-peak hours. This was definitely not done during non-peak hours. I'm not griping at folks just wondering why the decision was made to do it during regular business hours? If by "regular business hours" you mean 9am - 5pm (ish), I'll just mention that it's been through the evening here As someone else mentioned, whenever GSP decide to do it, it'll be "inconvenient" for someone, on some part of the globe... It's stuff that needs to be done... Every time these Release Notes get done there's someone complaining about the timing of it... Can't folks just chill out, forget about the site for a few hours, go and have a few coffees, come back when it's all done? This is just a hobby/past time/game/whatever! MrsB Link to comment
+supertbone Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 I have been able to play around with the new Cache along a route features and I really think they are awesome. Hopefully the other website issues will be fixed soon so you all can try it out. Link to comment
+Corey Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Looks like a neat feature. I will try it out more once the site's back up to speed. A few thoughts: Is it really necessary to use a __doPostBack for the "Create a Route" link on the My page? The yellow highlight color on the map seemed perhaps a little faint. Since you're creating a route anyway, why not have two separate Start and End boxes and save the system the difficulty of figuring out the grammar? Link to comment
+Cryptid Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 It looks fine, but I'm going to miss the option for choosing the distance on either side of the Route to search. I like to search only .2 or .3 miles off the road on road trips. This gives me only roadside caches. The new option has a .5 minimum. Link to comment
jholly Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 It looks fine, but I'm going to miss the option for choosing the distance on either side of the Route to search. I like to search only .2 or .3 miles off the road on road trips. This gives me only roadside caches. The new option has a .5 minimum. See post #23. Jim Link to comment
+Cryptid Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 I've been playing with it, I really like the pick and pull feature to alter your route, I've been wishing for that feature. Jon, and Jim, I can't see where I can choose .2 or .3 miles, all I see is the .5 option. Am I missing something? Link to comment
+Parabola Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Is it just me or is the advertisement banner on the left side just below the resource link, well it look's so, so, so blank. Link to comment
+Allanon Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Greetings cachers. For this month's code release we offer a major upgrade to the Caches Along a Route feature. In the new version of CAaR, you are presented with a tool for creating routes online using Google Maps. Create a route between 2 points up to 500 miles in length. Play around with detours from the route and you'll be surprised that a "route" can even be shaped as a square! Basic members can experiment with route creation, too. Wow...definitely cool. Thanks! Link to comment
Moun10Bike Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 The "Search Radius" dropdown does NOT affect your Pocket Query. It is not linked to that at all. It merely helps you guesstimate how far out from your route you want to go. Nothing has changed in the Pocket Query creation process itself; there, you can set whatever distance out you want just as before. Link to comment
+ghettomedic Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 The "Search Radius" dropdown does NOT affect your Pocket Query. It is not linked to that at all. It merely helps you guesstimate how far out from your route you want to go. Nothing has changed in the Pocket Query creation process itself; there, you can set whatever distance out you want just as before. No matter what address I enter in the search box I get an error "unknown address: No corresponding geographic location could be found for the specified address" I have tried all sorts of addresses and combination Link to comment
+NinjaCacher! Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 No matter what address I enter in the search box I get an error "unknown address: No corresponding geographic location could be found for the specified address" I have tried all sorts of addresses and combination What route are you trying to create? Are you sure you clicked on "create new route" first? I get from your profile that youre from Ashland, MA. So I just tried as an example "Ashland, MA to Portland, ME" (without the quotes) and it gives a pretty neat route of 135.4 miles. Or try just ZIP codes, I don't know what codes you have over there, but just tried as an example in California "94101 to 92103", which gives a nice route from San Francisco all the way down to San Diego. (even though the tool complains it's over 500 miles.. it's 500.2 actually ) Link to comment
+wandering4cache Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 I like the new Caching Along a Route tool. Much easier than the old method. Link to comment
+Raine Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 The "Search Radius" dropdown does NOT affect your Pocket Query. It is not linked to that at all. It merely helps you guesstimate how far out from your route you want to go. Nothing has changed in the Pocket Query creation process itself; there, you can set whatever distance out you want just as before. No matter what address I enter in the search box I get an error "unknown address: No corresponding geographic location could be found for the specified address" I have tried all sorts of addresses and combination You can always just click on the map to create your start and end points. -Raine Link to comment
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