+binzi Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 I went out for a run yesterday going at a speed of around 8 to 9 km/h. I put the track record to one second. Here's a look at what I got: The upper line was recorded on a bicycle track that pretty much has an open view to the sky. The Oregon showed an accuracy of 5 meters most of the time. The lower line was recored on a regular street having some houses on one side and some trees on the other side. The Oregon showed an accuracy of 2 meters most of the time. Quote Link to comment
+JetSkier Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 You should always use webupdater service from garmin !!! the beta ver.2.94 under the update and software page states this.and gives a warning under the beta ver 2.94 update-that its not been released for production and should use at your own risk! if you guys used webupdater it would have not updated your oregon to this ver 2.94,mine is 2.8 still with no problems. What prompted this post? Everyone here knows they are testing a beta version and we're pretty happy to do so. JetSkier Quote Link to comment
+BetaMan Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 What is the "Maps with Satelite Imagery" about? How do we get such maps on the Oregon? Map looks like Google Earth with an overlaid tracklog. Yeah, but where do you get the maps? Quote Link to comment
+2Wheel'in Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 What is the "Maps with Satelite Imagery" about? How do we get such maps on the Oregon? Map looks like Google Earth with an overlaid tracklog. Yeah, but where do you get the maps? I don't think the "maps" are on (or could be on) the Oregon at all...that's just a screen shot of Google Earth, with the track log from the Oregon overlaid on it. Bill Quote Link to comment
+BetaMan Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 What is the "Maps with Satelite Imagery" about? How do we get such maps on the Oregon? Map looks like Google Earth with an overlaid tracklog. Yeah, but where do you get the maps? I don't think the "maps" are on (or could be on) the Oregon at all...that's just a screen shot of Google Earth, with the track log from the Oregon overlaid on it. Bill According to Garmin, the new update (released with 2,86) includes "Maps with Satelite Imagery". I was wondering where the maps come from and could they be loaded on the Oregon. Quote Link to comment
eaparks Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 (edited) According to Garmin, the new update (released with 2,86) includes "Maps with Satelite Imagery". I was wondering where the maps come from and could they be loaded on the Oregon. The Oregon 400i and 400c come with a basemap that has satellite imagery. I have the 400c and the satellite imagery is no where near what you saw above in this thread; that definitely had to be Google Earth. The satellite imagery on the 400i and 400c is very low resolution and is only viewable down to a zoom level of 5 miles and at that level about all you can tell is what a major geographic body is such as a major river (Mississippi River or Tennessee River). CN and Topo do not work properly with the satellite imagery (basemap) "Enabled". The CN and Topo maps disappear at the zoom levels where you really start needing to view them. Garmin is aware of this problem that exists in the Oregon 400i, 400c and Colorado 400i and 400c and have said they will correct it in future updates. It is strictly speculation on my part but I suspect it is not an easy fix and has a lot to do with draw orders and layering and I wonder if it is actually fixable with just software updates. Could possibly require a differently structured basemap. Edited March 30, 2009 by eaparks Quote Link to comment
+BetaMan Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 (edited) According to Garmin, the new update (released with 2,86) includes "Maps with Satelite Imagery". I was wondering where the maps come from and could they be loaded on the Oregon. The Oregon 400i and 400c come with a basemap that has satellite imagery. I have the 400c and the satellite imagery is no where near what you saw above in this thread; that definitely had to be Google Earth. The satellite imagery on the 400i and 400c is very low resolution and is only viewable down to a zoom level of 5 miles and at that level about all you can tell is what a major geogrpahic body is such as a major river (Mississippi River or Tennessee River). CN and Topo do not work properly with the satellite imagery (basemap) "Enabled". The CN and Topo maps disappear at the zoom levels where you really start needing to view them. Garmin is aware of this problem that exists in the Oregon 400i, 400c and Colorado 400i and 400c and have said they will correct it in future updates. It is strictly speculation on my part but I suspect it is not an easy fix and has a lot to do with draw orders and layering and I wonder if it is actually fixable with just software updates. Could possibly require a differently structured basemap. Thanks for your reply. I realize that the picture above is from Google earth. It was merely a coincidence that it posted right before mine. The two posts are totally unrelated. My question doesn't have anything to do with the above post. It is merely a question about what the new release states that it does: Software 2.94 (beta) •Added ability to see a list of points from the map when several points are at the same location •Added ability to edit a waypoint from the waypoint review •Improved render quality of GB Discoverer maps and maps with satelite imagery •Improved Main Menu setup and added option to add and remove items. •Improved readability of configurable data fields •Fixed increased battery consumption and shutdowns in some units The question is, where do you get these maps to load on the Oregon 400t? The question has NOTHING to do with an earlier post that shows satelite pics with track logs on it. Thanks! Edited March 30, 2009 by BetaMan Quote Link to comment
+rovers3 Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 I upgraded to 2.94 the other day and did a few short walks and drives to caches, then a 16km hike and then some more caches, about 30 in all. No shutdowns, Accuracy 2-4m, Couldn't keep a lock on waas even in open areas Caches close to posted coords on most finds Battery life seemed better The only strange thing was once I was out with waas disabled, accuracy showing 2m, enabled waas and accuracy showing 4m after the lock, disabled again and accuracy showing back to 2m. This was all while I was at the same spot. I thought the accuracy was supposed to be better with a waas lock. Quote Link to comment
+g-o-cashers Posted March 30, 2009 Author Share Posted March 30, 2009 Thanks for your reply. I realize that the picture above is from Google earth. It was merely a coincidence that it posted right before mine. The two posts are totally unrelated. My question doesn't have anything to do with the above post. It is merely a question about what the new release states that it does: Software 2.94 (beta) •Added ability to see a list of points from the map when several points are at the same location •Added ability to edit a waypoint from the waypoint review •Improved render quality of GB Discoverer maps and maps with satelite imagery •Improved Main Menu setup and added option to add and remove items. •Improved readability of configurable data fields •Fixed increased battery consumption and shutdowns in some units The question is, where do you get these maps to load on the Oregon 400t? The question has NOTHING to do with an earlier post that shows satelite pics with track logs on it. Thanks! Now I understand! I think they are probably referring to the satellite imagery included in the 400i and 400c basemap. Quote Link to comment
+GeoJunkie Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 I have never seen this before: I ran a GSAK macro to load a large (1800 caches) gpx file to my OR. When I powered it on, it said No Caches Found. Connected it to my PC and verified the file is there. Powered it on again and it found the caches. Weird. I had that with mine BEFORE upgrading to any Beta. Happened last week, and just installed my first Beta this morning. It seems there's been some shifts in waypoint rules that were causing issues on manually created waypoints. I backed up and cleared my database, then reloaded fresh from my pocket queries. Haven't had that problem since. Quote Link to comment
+BetaMan Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 Thank you Scott! You are both a gentleman and a scholar! I wish they had satelite imagery for the 400t. Somehow Delorme figured it our for the PN-40 which uses the SAME processor. Quote Link to comment
+kevenh Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 Do OregonBeta@garmin.com need any more examples of the power off when you use the back arrow to go back to the normal map position? Quote Link to comment
+Tequila Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 This is really scary. I did a dumb thing. I have a profile I don't use that has my phone number as the profile name. I was playing with the new Main Menu ability to delete buttons. I deleted all the buttons except Setup(for obvious reasons it won't let you delete it) However, now I can't change profiles AND I cannot restore the Change Profile button. Any suggestions before I do a factory restore?? Quote Link to comment
+Tequila Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 This is really scary. I did a dumb thing. I have a profile I don't use that has my phone number as the profile name. I was playing with the new Main Menu ability to delete buttons. I deleted all the buttons except Setup(for obvious reasons it won't let you delete it) However, now I can't change profiles AND I cannot restore the Change Profile button. Any suggestions before I do a factory restore?? Fixed it. I thought touching an icon and then touching the garbage can would undelete. Apparently not. I had to touch a deleted icon and then touch the deleted icon closest to the last undeleted icon. Sorry for the panic. Still suffering from Coloradoitis. Quote Link to comment
+g-o-cashers Posted March 30, 2009 Author Share Posted March 30, 2009 You probably can also manually edit the gpf file which contains that profile's settings (or remove it all together) if you really get stuck. Quote Link to comment
+rovers3 Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 I had 3 shutdowns yesterday while driving between caches. I was in recreational mode and had the pinhead on the screen, when I pushed the back arrow to get back to the original map screen the screen went half blank then the shutdown. Pushed the power on button and all was ok again. This only happened while driving. No shutdowns when I did the same thing while walking. Quote Link to comment
+Redwoods Mtn Biker Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 Has anybody noticed that dragging the map under the pin doesn't work as well as it used to? Not sure which firmware may be responsible, if any. Quote Link to comment
+g-o-cashers Posted April 1, 2009 Author Share Posted April 1, 2009 I haven't noticed any drastic changes over these releases but now that you mention it, it might be worse than it was originally. In 2.85 they started to make a bunch of changes to how maps get redrawn -- I wonder if you moved back to 2.8 if you would see a difference? As a side note, I started noticing issues with fine adjustments of the screen a few months ago with my original OR. When I received the new one (replaced for a different reason) I noticed how much easier the maps was to move by small amounts. I wonder if debris gets caught between the housing and screen and causes the screen to be less responsive? Hopefully it isn't a durability issue with the touch screen. I also find with the screen protector I lose little bit of control because I have press harder (maybe my fine motor skills aren't so good!). Quote Link to comment
+Tequila Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 You probably can also manually edit the gpf file which contains that profile's settings (or remove it all together) if you really get stuck. I tried that and it didn't work. I deleted my "phone number" profile, created a copy of my automotive profile and renamed it to my phone number. When I restarted the OR it still had the deleted phone number profile as its profile. I am guessing the OR must copy the attributes from the gpf file into memory or something. Quote Link to comment
+Tequila Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 I just got the following email from Garmin but the link does not take me to 2.95. Sounds like it is on its way though. Thank you for testing Oregon Beta Software 2.94. We have released Oregon Beta 2.95. This software fixes the problem that caused the Oregon to turn off as you described. It also contains a few new features. You can download it here: http://www8.garmin.com/support/blosp.jsp If you continue to have problems, or find new issues, please let us know. Thanks, Oregon Software Team Quote Link to comment
+Lampengeist Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 use this link: http://www8.garmin.com/software/Oregon300_295Beta.exe cu, Frank Quote Link to comment
+allory Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 Oregon 300 software version 2.95 Beta as of April 1, 2009 http://www8.garmin.com/support/download_details.jsp?id=4393 Oregon 200 software version 2.95 Beta as of April 1, 2009 http://www8.garmin.com/support/download_details.jsp?id=4395 Oregon 400t software version 2.95 Beta as of April 1, 2009 http://www8.garmin.com/support/download_details.jsp?id=4397 Oregon 400c software version 2.95 Beta as of April 1, 2009 http://www8.garmin.com/support/download_details.jsp?id=4399 Oregon 400i software version 2.95 Beta as of April 1, 2009 http://www8.garmin.com/support/download_details.jsp?id=4401 Quote Link to comment
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