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[Clan Riffster]

I've seen mention in here of making replicas (i.e. scans or photocopies of genuine 'registered' pieces). Do others consider this an acceptable practice?

I don't. I like to feel the weight of a real coin in my palm, not a laminated scrap of paper. If you are unwilling to face the possibilities of your coin being stolen, don't release it. Fake coins are cheesy. Just my $0.02.

[jholly]

I've seen mention in here of making replicas (i.e. scans or photocopies of genuine 'registered' pieces). Do others consider this an acceptable practice?

I don't. I like to feel the weight of a real coin in my palm, not a laminated scrap of paper. If you are unwilling to face the possibilities of your coin being stolen, don't release it. Fake coins are cheesy. Just my $0.02.

 

Ah, but you still get the icon without lugging all that weight around.

 

Jim

[+Rockin Roddy]

I've seen mention in here of making replicas (i.e. scans or photocopies of genuine 'registered' pieces). Do others consider this an acceptable practice?

I don't. I like to feel the weight of a real coin in my palm, not a laminated scrap of paper. If you are unwilling to face the possibilities of your coin being stolen, don't release it. Fake coins are cheesy. Just my $0.02.

 

Ah, but you still get the icon without lugging all that weight around.

 

Jim

 

But did you really get to "feel" the quality of the coin, "see" the beauty of it? I don't think so. There's so much detail on a coin that cannot be transfered to a paper copy...textures, details hidden under translucent paints etc.

 

I don't much care for fake coins and I don't usually grab them, but to each their own!!

[Mr.Yuck]

I've seen mention in here of making replicas (i.e. scans or photocopies of genuine 'registered' pieces). Do others consider this an acceptable practice?

I don't. I like to feel the weight of a real coin in my palm, not a laminated scrap of paper. If you are unwilling to face the possibilities of your coin being stolen, don't release it. Fake coins are cheesy. Just my $0.02.

 

Ah, but you still get the icon without lugging all that weight around.

 

Jim

 

But did you really get to "feel" the quality of the coin, "see" the beauty of it? I don't think so. There's so much detail on a coin that cannot be transfered to a paper copy...textures, details hidden under translucent paints etc.

 

I don't much care for fake coins and I don't usually grab them, but to each their own!!

 

Man, I try to kill the thread, and you guys just keep talking. I've grabbed a few coin copies, doesn't bother me too much. But I'll bet most people feel like Roddy.

[Clan Riffster]

Ah, but you still get the icon without lugging all that weight around.

I have a fascination with shaped metal, from hand made knives to antique foreign coins. I just think those kind of things are kewl.

For me, being able to drool over a particular coin is way more important than adding an icon to my list.

The icon is, for me, just a side effect of getting to play with, (move), a coin.

As an example, when I go to events, I love pawing through personal coin collections, yet I almost never log "Discovered".

For others, nabbing new icons is a part of the game they enjoy, and I can respect that.

I don't move scraps of laminated paper, but I'll be happy to move coins.

[+ThePetersTrio]

Please remember that some replica or proxy coins are released AFTER the actual coin has been stolen. I see nothing wrong with this practice and as a cacher who has had many coins stolen over this past year, I am starting to consider doing this myself. I put the coins out to travel and it is not my fault that someone decided to steal it. I will continue to release actual coins into caches but once they are stolen and have been missing for over a year or so, I should be able to release a proxy in its place without being made to feel like some horrible person for doing so.

 

I do think the fact the traveler is a proxy should be clearly stated on the coin's page...preferably even in the title of the coin, however.

[Trinity's Crew]

I've seen mention in here of making replicas (i.e. scans or photocopies of genuine 'registered' pieces). Do others consider this an acceptable practice?

I don't. I like to feel the weight of a real coin in my palm, not a laminated scrap of paper. If you are unwilling to face the possibilities of your coin being stolen, don't release it. Fake coins are cheesy. Just my $0.02.

Is that a photocopied $0.02 or a real $0.02?

[+craftypants]

Perhaps a good quality scan of each side of the coin could be decoupaged onto a wooden disk, making a slightly more coin-like proxy.

 

For those who say that this would not be a REAL trackable.....if it has a tracking number on it which is registered then it can be tracked. If I scribbled a new TB code on the back of a used envelope and released it, it WOULD be trackable. I know what you say about the weight of a coin....all shiny and pretty but many people just don't have the cash to be putting out fancy new coins all the time, even more so the people whose proxy is replacing one which had already been pilfered.

Edited March 28, 2009 by craftypants

[+sullude]

Why don't you just make a new cache under a different account then adopt it so it's not under your name it's under your AKA.

I think it'll work

[+Vinny & Sue Team]

Is there a way to block users from watching your cache?...

 

Well, there is no way to do so for regular and Premium members, but...

 

It is said that Platinum level members have the privilege of being able to place Platinum-member only caches and that Thorium level members are able to place Thorium-member only caches. Since Platinum level membership is limited to only about 300 people, and since Thorium-level membership is limited to only about 110 cachers, this would be a great way to grossly limit who can see your caches.

 

That is, if Platinum level and Thorium level memberships really existed, and if you belonged to one of those levels. Of course, we all know that they do not exist, so nothing to get concerned about here....

[+JoesBar]

I enjoy moving trackables. I have several TBs in circulation and I have moved LOTS of others. I ignore any rules on cache pages concerning equal trades for trackables. The cache police have yet to catch me.

 

the bottom line with all trackables is this, when you send a TB or coin out into the world you lose all control of it. Anyone can take it. Many go missing. Accept this when you launch a trackable.

 

there are two ways you can prevent this one cacher from grabbing any trackable from this cache. Stop putting trackable into it or remove the cache. but if you choose the latter, everyone loses out.

[Clan Riffster]

I should be able to release a proxy in its place without being made to feel like some horrible person for doing so.

The only individual who can force you to feel like a horrible person is you. If you're OK with spitting out laminated scraps of paper and calling them geocoins, (or geocoin proxies), I doubt anyone will gainsay your choice. There may be folks, such as myself, who express their opinions regarding such a practice, however that opinion is worth exactly zero, unless, and until you give it merit.

 

My personal rule regarding my coins:

If a coin has some sort of special significance, such as being a gift from a fellow cacher, I will tuck it into my collection and bring it to events so those, like myself, who like pawing through clinky metal things can "Ooh & Ahh" over them, as well as posting Discovered logs, if they are so inclined. If a coin does not hold a special place in my heart, I bid it a fond farewell and release it into the wild, to survive, or not, as fate dictates.

[+ThePetersTrio]

I should be able to release a proxy in its place without being made to feel like some horrible person for doing so.

The only individual who can force you to feel like a horrible person is you. If you're OK with spitting out laminated scraps of paper and calling them geocoins, (or geocoin proxies), I doubt anyone will gainsay your choice. There may be folks, such as myself, who express their opinions regarding such a practice, however that opinion is worth exactly zero, unless, and until you give it merit.

 

You are right. I honestly don't care what you think about it.

 

I was merely trying to point out that some people are simply replacing stolen coins with proxies and perhaps there might be some cachers out there who would be understanding about that and move them along even if they don't particularly care for proxy coins. But that is their choice obviously.

[+Star*Hopper]

"... Anyone can take it. Many go missing. Accept this when you launch a trackable. ..."

 

I actually accepted it before I ever launched one. In fact, before I ever bought one. So I haven't.

And my plans don't include buying any. Evar.

 

Truth be told, I's all het up at one time wantin' to buy some, or even have a run made. Some of these things are just outright beauties - esp. (to me) those associated with geonav & astronomy....sextants, planispheres, orreries....and for some unknown reason I've always loved compass roses. Anywayz, when I 'had the fever' I asked my sis who's been playin' the game for years, about maybe designing a 'family' coin & splitting the cost, etc. She said she didn't have any interest in spending money on something that was just gonna get stolen, and as I came to eventually see more & more of what she'd foretold, it pretty much cooled me on the whole involvement thing too.

 

I know there's some cachers who 'do right' by 'em....pick 'em up, move 'em along & drop 'em off duly & responsibly....and Lord bless 'em! But it only takes one bad crapple to crap up a whole lotta crop, unfortunately. And furthermore, I honestly think the more players that come into this game, the worse it ("disappearances") is gonna get.

 

I surely got no grudge agin' them that wants to invest in 'em, & do whatever their 'thang' is with 'em. But as for me, somehow, I just never have cottoned to the idea of feedin' thieves, & I just can't get past the mental picture of ridin' down the road tossin' twentys out the hatch.

 

~*

[+Printess Caroline]

Consider hiding a new mystery cache with a hard to solve puzzle. You could even name it after the cacher that has been taking the trackables and keeping for months. In the description of the new cache you could put in a statement to the effect "if you have any of my trackables return as many as you take".

 

Wouldn't this just give reason for angst? If the other person feels like they're being singled out, you may make more trouble than you want! I agree with the idea of placing a new cache and making it tough, but I'd never call out another player like this...

 

That's hilarious! I like it!

 

It may be fun to consider such a cache, but the drama and ill will that it could produce would not be fun at all. A polite email to the cacher as others suggested would be best.

[+Printess Caroline]

 

I've seen mention in here of making replicas (i.e. scans or photocopies of genuine 'registered' pieces), laminated for protection from handling, & 'launched' on their journey. This seems to me to be a good preventive measure, since it removes much of the 'attractiveness' of the item, & the token can still serve the purpose it was intended for. If I ever did decide to get into 'em, I think that's about the only way I'd do it. Do others consider this an acceptable practice?

 

~*

 

i think it's cheap.

 

you can either circulate a trackable, or you can keep it. you cannot do both.

 

...unless you don't mind living a lie.

 

maybe one might log facsimiles of caches as well? it's like seeing a sign that gives you the tracking number to a coin you never see so you can "discover" it.

 

what'd you discover? the trackable? not hardly. you "discovered" a sign.

 

 

when i find one of these cheesy things, i use 'em to pick my nose and then put 'em back. they're not real trackables.

 

I think that I found one of those "coins" after you, flask. I thought someone was just really sloppy with the Gorilla Glue!

[+Karen2408]

Just a thought -- If the offending party is just wanting to add coin icons and/or beef up their TB numbers, if you decide to discuss the matter with them and try to come to some compromise, how about offering to let them "Discover" the bug or coin before it's placed in the cache? This would remove the incentive for them to actually remove it from the cache, unless, of course, they're intent on keeping it for some other reason.

Edited March 29, 2009 by Karen2408

[+Unkle Fester]

Is there a way to block users from watching your cache?...

 

Well, there is no way to do so for regular and Premium members, but...

 

It is said that Platinum level members have the privilege of being able to place Platinum-member only caches and that Thorium level members are able to place Thorium-member only caches. Since Platinum level membership is limited to only about 300 people, and since Thorium-level membership is limited to only about 110 cachers, this would be a great way to grossly limit who can see your caches.

 

That is, if Platinum level and Thorium level memberships really existed, and if you belonged to one of those levels. Of course, we all know that they do not exist, so nothing to get concerned about here....

Speak for your self...

 

Unkle Fester

Ultra Exclusive Premium Platinum Member (I told you, now I have to kill you)

 

...And... As for copies of coins, I have seen them as copies of stolen or missing coins and I'm OK with that, but when a copy gets released and the owner keeps the original to show at events, I feel ripped off.

 

As for TB hotels, AKA TB Prisons, I can see the point, but my experiance with my own TB hotel has been people will take them regardless. it's only a guideline, not a rule. Kind of like the Pirate Code and Parley. But I'm not a pirate, just Undead.

[+power69]

 

When you release a TB be prepared for it to be picked up. Be prepared for your mission to be ignored. Be prepared for it to be stolen, lost, exploded, altered, or even replaced.

 

Now if the other cacher is hanging on to them for a long time, that's different. You should try the nice email option that's been suggested. You don't want to get involved in nasty drama issues with other cachers, try to work it out.

 

THIS!!!!!11

 

All the 'stuff' mentioned in this thread are some of the reasons I just don't mess with Travelers any more. Too much potential for theft, deprivation or other loss, associated angst - & wa-y-y too much extra paperwork.

 

I've seen mention in here of making replicas (i.e. scans or photocopies of genuine 'registered' pieces), laminated for protection from handling, & 'launched' on their journey. This seems to me to be a good preventive measure, since it removes much of the 'attractiveness' of the item, & the token can still serve the purpose it was intended for. If I ever did decide to get into 'em, I think that's about the only way I'd do it. Do others consider this an acceptable practice?

 

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My opinion: if you can't *afford* to lose a bug or coin, don't buy them!

replacing the real deal with a proxy denies the finder of getting to hold the real coin in their hands.

if you're going to go the proxy route by all means write on the coins page that its a proxy/copy and not the real deal. the last thing someone going after a certain coin on a 5 mile and 4.5 D/T hike wants to get a laminated photo of it. now i'm ok with a copy if the coin is one of those $30 silver coins[very likely to be muggled and sold for melt]

[+power69]

 

I've seen mention in here of making replicas (i.e. scans or photocopies of genuine 'registered' pieces), laminated for protection from handling, & 'launched' on their journey. This seems to me to be a good preventive measure, since it removes much of the 'attractiveness' of the item, & the token can still serve the purpose it was intended for. If I ever did decide to get into 'em, I think that's about the only way I'd do it. Do others consider this an acceptable practice?

 

~*

 

i think it's cheap.

 

you can either circulate a trackable, or you can keep it. you cannot do both.

 

...unless you don't mind living a lie.

 

maybe one might log facsimiles of caches as well? it's like seeing a sign that gives you the tracking number to a coin you never see so you can "discover" it.

 

what'd you discover? the trackable? not hardly. you "discovered" a sign.

 

 

when i find one of these cheesy things, i use 'em to pick my nose and then put 'em back. they're not real trackables.

 

I think that I found one of those "coins" after you, flask. I thought someone was just really sloppy with the Gorilla Glue!

i found a few and one didn't even have its photo taken. it was just a tracking number on a piece of paper in a small ziplock baggie. i actually took it because many times the coins i got with me won't fit in a cache. heck this one would fit in a hide a key or 35mm film cannister. but when i drop it, i note in the log that it was a copy.

[+BrrrMo]

This is a neutral statement based on my experience:

What about a active cache owner who deliberately leaves their TB as inventory knowing it hasn't been there in over a year? I can only guess they are trying to lure people to come find their cache, but how disappointing that is to anyone coming to trade or take the TB not realizing it's MIA?

 

I have to admit: I never thought of the "Only take a TB if you leave a TB" akin to prison, but it makes sense. You're right, I wouldn't want my TB languishing in prison because no one had a TB to trade. I think the more people moving them along, the better.

 

There are several in my area that fall into the "not there and haven't been for a long time". Have sent Emails but no action. Oh wel,l as they say "play the game as you wish and God will punish the thiefs"