Stage distances for Multi

[+Yeahoh]

Hello all, I have a question about Multi Cache's. Is there an unwritten (or written for that matter) rule about how far away each stage of a multi should be or am I just worrying too much? Kind of hard to explain but here goes......I want to place 4 stages (including the final) around a small pond. The pond is just off a trail system that has two entrances. The pond is directly between these two entrances. I wanted to make it easy to do from both ways not just one. The length of the journey (the stages only, not the hike in) would be about 1/4 of a mile. Is that too short to have 4 stages? From stage 1 to stage 2 (415 ft), from stage 2 to stage 3 (670 ft), and from stage 3 to Final (345 ft). The places that I have chosen are perfect and cannot be changed. Thanks in advance, I really appreciate it.

 

Todd

[+Wintonian]

From the gudelines:

 

Cache Saturation

The reviewers use a rule of thumb that caches placed within .10 miles (528 feet or 161 metres) of another cache may not be published on the site. This is an arbitrary distance and is just a guideline, but the ultimate goal is to reduce the number of caches hidden in a particular area and to reduce confusion that might otherwise result when one cache is found while looking for another. On the same note, don't go cache crazy and hide a cache every 600 feet just because you can. If you want to create a series of caches (sometimes called a "Power Trail"), the reviewer may require you to create a multi-cache, if the waypoints are close together. A series of caches that are generally intended to be found as a group are good candidates for submission as a single multicache.

 

The cache saturation guideline applies to all physical stages of multicaches and mystery/puzzle caches, as well as any other stages entered as "stages of a multicache." The guideline does NOT apply to event caches, earthcaches, grandfathered virtual and webcam caches, stages of multicaches or puzzle caches entered as "question to answer" or "reference point," or to any "bogus" posted coordinates for a puzzle cache. Within a single multicache or mystery/puzzle cache, there is no minimum required distance between waypoints.

 

 

If those stages that are less than 528ft apart are physical containers then you will have to re-locate them. If they are clues i.e. the finder has to note down a number from a sign post and there is no container then I think it is ok.

 

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Edited March 23, 2009 by Hampshire_Hog

[+wesleykey]

Hello all, I have a question about Multi Cache's. Is there an unwritten (or written for that matter) rule about how far away each stage of a multi should be

 

I have logged a few where the stages were thousands of miles apart. Were you wanting to place the stages really close or really far apart?

[+wesleykey]

Having now read your entire post, you should be fine with that. To be 100% sure, contact your local cache reviewer.

[+Isonzo Karst]

Those stage distances seem fine to me, both as a matter of cache design, as being guideline's compliant.

 

You'll note that the last sentence of the saturation section of the listing guidelines is, "Within a single multicache or mystery/puzzle cache, there is no minimum required distance between waypoints."

[+ArcherDragoon]

From the gudelines:

 

Cache Saturation

The reviewers use a rule of thumb that caches placed within .10 miles (528 feet or 161 metres) of another cache may not be published on the site. This is an arbitrary distance and is just a guideline, but the ultimate goal is to reduce the number of caches hidden in a particular area and to reduce confusion that might otherwise result when one cache is found while looking for another. On the same note, don't go cache crazy and hide a cache every 600 feet just because you can. If you want to create a series of caches (sometimes called a "Power Trail"), the reviewer may require you to create a multi-cache, if the waypoints are close together. A series of caches that are generally intended to be found as a group are good candidates for submission as a single multicache.

 

The cache saturation guideline applies to all physical stages of multicaches and mystery/puzzle caches, as well as any other stages entered as "stages of a multicache." The guideline does NOT apply to event caches, earthcaches, grandfathered virtual and webcam caches, stages of multicaches or puzzle caches entered as "question to answer" or "reference point," or to any "bogus" posted coordinates for a puzzle cache. Within a single multicache or mystery/puzzle cache, there is no minimum required distance between waypoints.

 

 

If those stages that are less than 528ft apart are physical containers then you will have to re-locate them. If they are clues i.e. the finder has to note down a number from a sign post and there is no container then I think it is ok.

 

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To clarify...stages within a single multicache (regardless of being a container or not) can be as close or as far apart as you want them...just be sure each stage (container that is) is no closer than a tenth of a mile to any other cache in the area...

 

Within a single multicache or mystery/puzzle cache, there is no minimum required distance between waypoints.

Edited March 23, 2009 by ArcherDragoon

[+Allanon]

From the gudelines:

 

Cache Saturation

The reviewers use a rule of thumb that caches placed within .10 miles (528 feet or 161 metres) of another cache may not be published on the site. This is an arbitrary distance and is just a guideline, but the ultimate goal is to reduce the number of caches hidden in a particular area and to reduce confusion that might otherwise result when one cache is found while looking for another. On the same note, don't go cache crazy and hide a cache every 600 feet just because you can. If you want to create a series of caches (sometimes called a "Power Trail"), the reviewer may require you to create a multi-cache, if the waypoints are close together. A series of caches that are generally intended to be found as a group are good candidates for submission as a single multicache.

 

The cache saturation guideline applies to all physical stages of multicaches and mystery/puzzle caches, as well as any other stages entered as "stages of a multicache." The guideline does NOT apply to event caches, earthcaches, grandfathered virtual and webcam caches, stages of multicaches or puzzle caches entered as "question to answer" or "reference point," or to any "bogus" posted coordinates for a puzzle cache. Within a single multicache or mystery/puzzle cache, there is no minimum required distance between waypoints.

 

 

If those stages that are less than 528ft apart are physical containers then you will have to re-locate them. If they are clues i.e. the finder has to note down a number from a sign post and there is no container then I think it is ok.

 

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Sorry to say this, but you are wrong. See what I bolded in Red.

 

However, if there are other caches in the same area that are not part of this Multi, then all stages of the multi must not be within the .1 rule of any of those other caches. In other words, if Stage 3 is only 400' from a Traditional cache placed by me, it would be too close and have to be moved.

 

To the OP, your stages as long as they meet that last requirement should be OK. I'm sure a reviewer will be along to tell us if I'm wrong.

[+Wintonian]

Ok I stand corrected.

 

I get confused by this bit:

 

grandfathered virtual and webcam caches, stages of multicaches or puzzle caches entered as "question to answer" or "reference point,"

 

Just ignore me

Edited March 23, 2009 by Hampshire_Hog

[+Harry Dolphin]

I've done multis with the stages 54' apart to 5 miles apart. You should be good to go.