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Anyone have a way I can carry some micro megnets in my cache bag without running the risk of erasing my GPS? I generally buy rare earth. I recently had to take a micro home with me because I accidentally dropped the magnets into a pile of mulch. Purchased magnets and returned the cache within a few days, but not really interested in repeating that scenario.

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Anyone have a way I can carry some micro megnets in my cache bag without running the risk of erasing my GPS? I generally buy rare earth. I recently had to take a micro home with me because I accidentally dropped the magnets into a pile of mulch. Purchased magnets and returned the cache within a few days, but not really interested in repeating that scenario.

 

Unless you're sitting a huge magnet right on top of the SD card, I wouldn't really worry about it. I would be more worried about the magnets scratching up the face of my GPS.

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Anyone have a way I can carry some micro megnets in my cache bag without running the risk of erasing my GPS? I generally buy rare earth. I recently had to take a micro home with me because I accidentally dropped the magnets into a pile of mulch. Purchased magnets and returned the cache within a few days, but not really interested in repeating that scenario.

Carry them in a container that will isolate them. You can go to the $ store and get 3 or 4 silly putties.

Just keep putting the silly putty into 1 container until it is full then sandwich it on the magnets.

 

Rare earth has a huge magnetic field, even the small ones.

Um, Not all Rare Earth metals are created equal once imbibed with magnetic properties so that is a huge blanket statement. Most REM magnets have a strong magnetic field but that doesn't mean it is large.

 

Also, my GPS did not come with a backup disk for either the OS or the maps. Once they're gone my GPS is toast.

What is you receivers make and model?

I have a Mio Digiwalker and the software was missing from the package. I still have a copy on each hard drive, 2 copies on cd, and 6 on sd, 64mb sd cards are literally a dime a dozen when you can find them.

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The whole magnet erasing memory thing has always been overblown. Can magnets damage the structural array of memory devices? Yes, but in only extreme conditions (speaking generally here now). I can't tell you how many times in the old days I've tried to erase floppy disks and hard drives with magnets only to find that they still contain my data in perfectly good shape. I would guess that if a rare earth magnet won't erase a good old fashioned floppy disk then they certainly would have trouble with a solid state memory.

 

Besides, hasn't the government mandate about EMP protection been put into place on all of our electronic gadgets?? :(

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Besides, hasn't the government mandate about EMP protection been put into place on all of our electronic gadgets?? :(

If they have it is not being done. Besides an electro magnetic pulse is different from long term exposure to a permanent magnet.

 

It wasn't built into the programming for the Gorgonites but they hid under a satellite dish and were fine when the EMP came. Try putting the card in the Microwave :(

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Besides, hasn't the government mandate about EMP protection been put into place on all of our electronic gadgets?? :(

If they have it is not being done. Besides an electro magnetic pulse is different from long term exposure to a permanent magnet.

 

It wasn't built into the programming for the Gorgonites but they hid under a satellite dish and were fine when the EMP came. Try putting the card in the Microwave :D

No thanks, I like the enamel coating in the nuker intact just fine. :(

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Besides, hasn't the government mandate about EMP protection been put into place on all of our electronic gadgets?? :(

EMP shielding is expensive & consumes more resources. I'd wager most if not all of the stuff in your house & car is not shielded for practicality, economic & packaging reasons.
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Besides, hasn't the government mandate about EMP protection been put into place on all of our electronic gadgets?? :(

EMP shielding is expensive & consumes more resources. I'd wager most if not all of the stuff in your house & car is not shielded for practicality, economic & packaging reasons.

 

That was a joke. I see I used the wrong icon to qualify my quip.

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I think you'd have to have a "rip your fillings out" strong magnet to affect flash memory- which is the only type of memory that I've heard of in GPS units.

 

Maybe there are GPS units with actual magnetic-media hard drives but I kind of doubt it considering the rough handling that most GPS units are expected to take and the damage that dropping your standard HDD even six inches can do to the head and the disc surface.

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Besides, hasn't the government mandate about EMP protection been put into place on all of our electronic gadgets?? :(

If they have it is not being done. Besides an electro magnetic pulse is different from long term exposure to a permanent magnet.

 

It wasn't built into the programming for the Gorgonites but they hid under a satellite dish and were fine when the EMP came. Try putting the card in the Microwave :(

 

Haha i dont think anyone got that small soldiers refrence.

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I'm not an expert on the subject, by any means, but a quick Google search will provide a ton of evidence that magnets have zero effect on flash or SD RAM. Yes, they have an effect on magnetic media such as cassette tapes, floppy disks, and even harddrives, but that is a completely different technology. They can also have a gaussing effect on CRT monitors and televisions, but not on an LCD display.

 

In other words... don't worry about it.

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CompactFlash memory cards, are immune to magnetic fields. "There's nothing magnetic in flash memory, so [a magnet] won't do anything," says Bill Frank, executive director of the CompactFlash Association. "A magnet powerful enough to disturb the electrons in flash would be powerful enough to suck the iron out of your blood cells," says Frank.

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["A magnet powerful enough to disturb the electrons in flash would be powerful enough to suck the iron out of your blood cells," says Frank.[/i]

 

Hmmm... I wonder what that would sound like?

 

"clink." "clinkclink." "clink.clinkclink.clink"

more like

 

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIII

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If you guys want to screw up an SD card using a magnet, you're going about it all wrong. What you have to do is:

  1. Get one of the really big, like 20 lb, Neodymium magnets (the ones that come with the warnings about proper handling!).
  2. Suspend it about 5 feet above a cement floor with a quick release.
  3. Place the SD card below the magnet on the floor.
  4. Be sure you are clear of the magnet and any potential flying parts. Remember, the magnet will quite possibly chip and/or shatter.
  5. Release the magnet. If you can get it to land so a corner strikes the card rather than a flat side, all the better.

That will wreck your SD card.

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Out of curiosity I ripped a 32 mb chip apart to see what was ferrous inside.

What I found was 2 chips and 7 extremely small resistors and or diodes (I don't know I can only see that there is something there) on green board.

The larger of the chips had zero detectable attraction to the magnet so I snapped its half of the board off. The second chip continually pulled the magnet to center so I cut it off the board and had the same result.

I broke out a couple pairs of needle nose pliers and ripped all the contacts out of the chips (than a few broke off at the edge) which dramatically reduced its attraction to the magnet. After breaking the the chip open all I could discern where golden sparkles inside and a few remaining pieces of the contacts.

 

The whole process left me in awe of micro sd chips, they are smaller than my pinky nail. I wouldn't be able to see squat in them.

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CompactFlash memory cards, are immune to magnetic fields. "There's nothing magnetic in flash memory, so [a magnet] won't do anything," says Bill Frank, executive director of the CompactFlash Association. "A magnet powerful enough to disturb the electrons in flash would be powerful enough to suck the iron out of your blood cells," says Frank.

 

Cool! Where can I get one of those magnets?

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Out of curiosity I ripped a 32 mb chip apart to see what was ferrous inside.

All that work, and no pics to share? :mad: I'm still amazed at the size of micro SDHC cards myself.

I just never think of it. I have been working on a new container made from 24" 1"x2" scrap from a construction site and when I got the hinges on I thought "I should have been taking pics" yet I still didn't bother to break out the cam.

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After breaking the the chip open all I could discern where golden sparkles inside and a few remaining pieces of the contacts.

 

That would be the unicorn-horn and fairy-wing-dust alloy that we in the EMS business use to give electronics that added zing. We wanted to call it "wonderflonium" but it was already taken.

Well I didn't want to say Mystical Magical Mighty Micro switches, I couldn't see the actual switch.

 

They don't call me the Human Microscope for a reason. :mad:

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