+kleptofamily Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 I was just wondering what others do with there DNF list and how they log them if found later. I go back to the cache page to see it it was just me or a missing cache. I like to give my DNFs a second or third try just to get it off my list. I will edit my DNF log into a "found it" and leave a little note of my triumph. I noticed this gets it off my list but leaves a DNF on the cache page even though it now says found. Any thoughts? Quote Link to comment
+flask Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 the DNF is part of your history. think of it as telling the story. when you find it, it doesn't remove the chapter in which you didn't. there's no shame in it. it's good for your history, and it's good for the history of the cache. Quote Link to comment
+fizzymagic Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 I was just wondering what others do with there DNF list and how they log them if found later. I go back to the cache page to see it it was just me or a missing cache. I like to give my DNFs a second or third try just to get it off my list. I will edit my DNF log into a "found it" and leave a little note of my triumph. I noticed this gets it off my list but leaves a DNF on the cache page even though it now says found. Why would you edit a DNF into a Found log? The logs on a cache page represent the history of the cache; in my opinion, you should make a new "found it" log when you find the cache, and leave the old DNF there. It will be valuable to future seekers when they see that it took multiple tries to find. Quote Link to comment
+Keruso Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 what i do, is if i keep going to a cache and i can't find it, i log a DNF. If i keep going back to the cache and continually cannot find it, i still post a DNF. When i finally do find it, i do a happy dance, sign the log, and move on. Then i get home and post my expeirences on the cache. i leave my DNF list alone, i don't delete anything off of it. Your not really supposed to, as far as i know Quote Link to comment
+SkellyCA Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 Don't edit your DNF! Post a new log. It defeats the purpose of even having a DNF. For instance, I had a DNF a couple weeks ago and found found it this week. Editing my DNF would be boring, but logging a DNF one week and a found later makes reading the logs more interesting and informative for others. What I do is this... Look for the cache twice; if I don't find it on the second try, I log a DNF I'll back a few more times When I do find it, I make a new log entry as found Quote Link to comment
+mfamilee Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 Yep, log it as a new find and claim your smiley. Quote Link to comment
+Isonzo Karst Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 (edited) In addition to the reasons others have given, I'll mention that editing the type from DNF to Found it! generates no email notification. The cache owner and any other watchers will NOT be notified of a new find. This may inconvenience the owner, who is depending on those Found logs to assure her that the cache is in place. If you really want your DNF logs to go away upon finding a cache, delete them. And log a new, correctly dated Found it! log. Edited January 21, 2009 by Isonzo Karst Quote Link to comment
+Cornell Finch Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 I know I'm just a noob at this, but one of the suggestions I was given was to put a DNF cache on the watchlist. You then get an email when another cacher attempts the cache. You will be able to see whether it's another DNF or a Found log. Then you can go back and find it (or log another DNF! ) and make (as mentioned) a new log entry for it. Quote Link to comment
+dakboy Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 I know I'm just a noob at this, but one of the suggestions I was given was to put a DNF cache on the watchlist. You then get an email when another cacher attempts the cache. You will be able to see whether it's another DNF or a Found log. Then you can go back and find it (or log another DNF! ) and make (as mentioned) a new log entry for it. This is exactly what I do. Quote Link to comment
Skippermark Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 I leave all my DNFs and will post additional DNFs if I DNF it more or a find once I finally find it. It's cool to look at some caches and see 75 DNFs and 25 finds. Quote Link to comment
+vwaldoguy Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 Add me to the list that bookmarks my DNFs. I like to keep track, cuz if someone else finds it, then I know it was indeed there, but my hunting skills were lacking for that cache, and I'll try it again. Quote Link to comment
+cachensfun Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 DNF aren't something to be ashamed of. I might give you something to try and figure out later. I don't think we is nice to delete or edit DNF. Quote Link to comment
+Proud Soccer Mom Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 Nothing stops you from deleting your DNF. There's no rule. But there's no rational reason why it cannot stand as part of the cache's record. Quote Link to comment
+Star*Hopper Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 I leave all my DNFs and will post additional DNFs if I DNF it more or a find once I finally find it. It's cool to look at some caches and see 75 DNFs and 25 finds. There ya go! Have said it numerous times -- just as the 'Finders' like their numbers, the 'Hiders' like theirs too. At least, this one does. And I'd think the knowledge you found one that so many others found difficult (if they found it at all) would add a feather to your personal cachin' cap. Without those DNFs in place, on file, how would you, or others, know? We've got a couple players around here that think they're supposed to edit DNFs into Smiley logs, it seems. Lord knows they wouldn't be trying to 'hide their failures', now would they? (Yes....yes they would. They told me so.) One more reason I wish CO's could edit logs on their cache listings. ~* Quote Link to comment
Skippermark Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 (edited) If everyone changed their DNFs to finds, then it's not a true representation of a cache's difficulty. Imagine going to a 4.5 difficulty cache and seeing 50 finds and no DNFs. If I was planning on finding that cache, I'd be tempted to think that its rated incorrectly and will be easy. A 4.5 should be a challenge and will most likely have DNFs. If you see a bunch of DNFs, then you know you're in for a challenge. Edited January 21, 2009 by Skippermark Quote Link to comment
+luckycharmer Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 I have a cache that a lot of the more experienced cachers have a hard time finding some having 2 or 3 DNFs before posting that happy face. I love reading their posts since its really the same silly mistake each of them make. NEW cachers seem to walk right up to it with very little difficulty. If the DNFs were deleted or replaced it would just appear to be a missing cache for those that can't find it the first time. But because of the history of DNF and eventual smiles with new stories, most cachers are willing to give it a lot of trys. By the way it's listed as a 1.5 difficulty and most of the experienced cachers who have taken several tries to find it agree that it really shouldn't be rated higher. They just need to follow the actual instructions. Quote Link to comment
+trainlove Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 (edited) I will edit my DNF log into a "found it" and leave a little note of my triumph. You DIDN'T FIND IT. You didn't sign the log book. You cannot EVER log it until you DO find it. WOOF WOOF, Bark Bark. Do not CHEAT and edit your DNF to a Find. Hell, if you could do that then you could find every terrain 5 and difficulty 5 hide in the world, or even every cache... When you do find it you log a find ofn that day and leave the history alone. Edited January 21, 2009 by trainlove Quote Link to comment
+mfamilee Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 (edited) I will edit my DNF log into a "found it" and leave a little note of my triumph. You DIDN'T FIND IT. You didn't sign the log book. You cannot EVER log it until you DO find it. WOOF WOOF, Bark Bark. Do not CHEAT and edit your DNF to a Find. Hell, if you could do that then you could find every terrain 5 and difficulty 5 hide in the world, or even every cache... When you do find it you log a find ofn that day and leave the history alone. I was under the impression the OP stated they did go back and find caches, but was only wondering how others would log the new find... as stated in the 1st paragraph. Edited January 21, 2009 by mfamilee Quote Link to comment
+trainlove Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 I noticed this gets it off my list but leaves a DNF on the cache page even though it now says found. Since you don't know, your 'list' is just the last 30 days of your logs. To see all your logs you can click on one of the three "Show all logs for: Caches, Bugs, or Benchmarks. And then you can click on the type of log, all, find, note, DNF... To see your information, as others can see it, you want to click on the second of the boxes on the right of those pages called Stat Bar, or the link above that called View Profile. Then there are tabs for the various things. This shows your finds counts, and for travel bugs everything but the notes. Quote Link to comment
lecarlyle Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 (edited) I know I'm just a noob at this, but one of the suggestions I was given was to put a DNF cache on the watchlist. You then get an email when another cacher attempts the cache. You will be able to see whether it's another DNF or a Found log. Then you can go back and find it (or log another DNF! ) and make (as mentioned) a new log entry for it. This is exactly what I do. I am a noob too. This is what I do as well. Edited January 21, 2009 by lecarlyle Quote Link to comment
+J-Way Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 I know I'm just a noob at this, but one of the suggestions I was given was to put a DNF cache on the watchlist. You then get an email when another cacher attempts the cache. You will be able to see whether it's another DNF or a Found log. Then you can go back and find it (or log another DNF! ) and make (as mentioned) a new log entry for it. This is exactly what I do. I am a noob too. This is what I do as well. What does being a noob have to do with it? I don't watch all DNFs, but I do watch a significant number. Quote Link to comment
+StarBrand Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Log a DNF if you looked and Did Not Find the cache. At another point in time if you find it - log a find. Separate events. Separate logs. Keep it simple. Quote Link to comment
+emmett Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 . I will edit my DNF log into a "found it" and leave a little note of my triumph. Man you have not lived until you have DNF'd on your own cache. Anyone can DNF on someone else's cache, but to miss your own, well that's a real accomplishment. What would you do then? . Quote Link to comment
+Geoaddict Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 I do not go back and edit a DNF log. If I have multiple DNFs, each gets a separate log. When I finally find it, I log the smiley. I don't place all of my DNFs on my watchlist. If I am curious if the cache is missing or just difficult, then I will watch it. If I see someone gets a find after my DNF, then I know that it was me and not the cache. Quote Link to comment
+Chrysalides Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Man you have not lived until you have DNF'd on your own cache. Anyone can DNF on someone else's cache, but to miss your own, well that's a real accomplishment. What would you do then? Erm, not that unusual, actually. I've read a few Temporary Disable from cache owners where they said "Been out to check on the cache, looks like it is missing, will replace it" and the next log entry is a note by someone else saying "Cache is still there", and then an embarassed Enable Listing from CO. Anyway, I think the general consensus is to log a separate Found when the cache is found. That is what I do as well. Not only does it make more sense to me, it is also easier than editing an old log. Quote Link to comment
+Cornell Finch Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 I am a noob too. This is what I do as well. What does being a noob have to do with it? I don't watch all DNFs, but I do watch a significant number. Being a noob - in the grand scheme of things - has nothing to do with it. I was trying to illustrate that as a newer hunter mine might not be the best way of doing things, but wanted to share the hint I was given to try and help someone else that hasn't been hunting long. Quote Link to comment
+the hermit crabs Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Man you have not lived until you have DNF'd on your own cache. Anyone can DNF on someone else's cache, but to miss your own, well that's a real accomplishment. What would you do then? Same as always -- I logged a DNF Quote Link to comment
+kleptofamily Posted January 22, 2009 Author Share Posted January 22, 2009 Ok, I get it. Don't change my DNFs and just make a new found log. Thanks for all the comments and for not bashing me to hard! Quote Link to comment
+ArcherDragoon Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Ok, I get it. Don't change my DNFs and just make a new found log. Thanks for all the comments and for not bashing me to hard! As Spiderman would say... "Everyone gets one..." Quote Link to comment
+Sioneva Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 . I will edit my DNF log into a "found it" and leave a little note of my triumph. Man you have not lived until you have DNF'd on your own cache. Anyone can DNF on someone else's cache, but to miss your own, well that's a real accomplishment. What would you do then? . In the purely hypothetical chance that I have done this, I have sat, er, I would sit back and pray that someone else finds it and proves that it is still there... somewhere. This is purely hypothetical, you understand. I have never disabled one of my caches because I couldn't find it and thought it was missing. Never. Nor have I ever placed a cache, walked away, and returned ten minutes later, only to have serious trouble finding it again. I'm serious. Quote Link to comment
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