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Email sent with my wishlists. Hopefully I´ve done it right.

grodan Karin

 

I just sent mine in and I'm of the same thought process, despite reading it several times I'm still convinced I messed it up somewhere (and I stayed away from variables as that was just doing my head in :D ) I just wished for coins that I would be happy to get two of (as if) Fingers crossed!

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(and I stayed away from variables as that was just doing my head in :D )

 

I took the opposite approach and used variables for everything, including single coins, to make my want list easier for me to read and check. I'm still worried about it and hope I didn't make any big mistakes, but I've sent in my want list.

 

Blue skies and happy caching!

Model Citizen - Zero Discipline

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I am still waiting for 15 want lists to be sent in.

 

Here is a list of participants I have received lists from:

 

2golfers

AlliedOz

AtlantaGal

Avroair

burgessfour

Cheesy Pigs

Choc-O

Chur

Crowesfeat30

die_anita

dimkasmir

DresselDragons

E&Cplus3

ELTADA

Fossillady

Geocachingdragon

GeoKs

Globy

grodan & fiabus

Icydove

Jackalgirl

jnbball

kdv

kini_ont

Laval K-9

Li-Z

Mauison

Millieballon

ModelCitizen

MotoCycleBoi

PSU Fan

QuigleyJones

Savoy

southpawaz

Surteb

tadpole379

TeamAmaroo

The Moop Along

The Moops

Theotokos

tsunrisebey

wilg

Zarya.

 

The deadline is a little under 24 hours from now! If you don't see your name above, please get your want list in to me.

 

If you are having trouble understanding the format, please send me an email! I'll do what I can to explain it better.

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Whew! Completed my "want list" - - - so many coins to look through and so hard to decide!! It sure took some time! Now I'm looking forward to receiving my final list! :)

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I am very sorry, I need until tomorrow night to submit my want list. If this is not possible that is fine i will be out of the trade.

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Wish list *finally* completed and emailed! Holy cow! I hope I don't have to look at another digit for a month!! :laughing: Thanks for hosting and for your hard work on an amazing trade! Heading to Staples in the morning for packing supplies! <<gg>> Night all!!

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i got home early ad had just enough time to get my list in just under the midnight deadline. Thank you for hosting the trade. :laughing:

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i got home early ad had just enough time to get my list in just under the midnight deadline. Thank you for hosting the trade. :laughing:

 

Way to go. Now with that settled, Mr +3, where we at with the lists? I'm sure everyone's is in now, right? :laughing:

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i got home early ad had just enough time to get my list in just under the midnight deadline. Thank you for hosting the trade. :laughing:

 

Way to go. Now with that settled, Mr +3, where we at with the lists? I'm sure everyone's is in now, right? :laughing:

 

Still waiting on five people, with one having responded to my email after the deadline. The other four haven't responded to correspondence since they initially were invited into the mathtrade. I'm willing to give them til the end of the weekend if nobody has any objections ( a couple of them account for the bulk of my want list! :laughing: )

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With the amount of work that you have put into organising the trade so far plus where my want list was small I'm sure others were hours of work, waiting for a little while longer is no drama. After all life does tend to get in the way at times :D

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I don't mind waiting. Can't mail anything in the US till Tuesday anyway. Monday is a federal holiday.

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Anxious to find out the results but waiting is not a problem.

Same here!

Me too! ;) I don't want to redo my want list.... :D

 

CF30

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First off, no one has to redo any lists :D If the people don't send in lists, their coins just aren't available for trade. ECPlus3 can just enter there username and coins, without wants. Like if I didnt send a list:

 

TMA (1250) :

TMA (1251) :

TMA (1252) :

 

and so on.

 

I think it's pretty raw that the majority of the people busted hump to get their lists in on time, and others didn't make it. Since Monday is a US Postal Holiday, I think it's a perfect day to pack coins. I say move the deadline to Sunday 12PM EST. After that, run the numbers, and oh well, those lists that didn't make it are just not up for trade anymore. That gives folks a day or so to pack up coins before post. Continuing to wait on folks that can't respond to you isn't productive. I'm sure someone might have a good reason, but if they don't contact you, you can't guess what that is.

 

TMA

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I don't mind waiting a little longer... I checked the names above, and someone is still missing who offeres one of my most wanted... :D

And can't say it often enough: thanks for volunteering to do all this work with the lists for us, E&Cplus3!

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Hmm. I wasn't aware that this was a long weekend in the US. :D

 

In hindsight, this might not have been the best weekend to have the deadline on. Oh well, not much I can do now. Two of those left to check in are Canadian anyway, so no excuse! ;)

 

And TMA is correct, I'll just leave their coins blank. No new lists will be required!

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I guess I may be in the minority but I would rather NOT wait. I read the rules... I lived up to the deadlines...and there was plenty of time to do so regardless of what came up in life. I have a large family, work is a nightmare and lots of distractions too. However, I made a commitment and knew I had to fulfill it or send a note that I can't make it - easy as that.

 

It always amazes me how often people sign up for something and then don't/can't keep up their end. Always allowing these extensions just mitigates the trend for people to miss the deadlines - in my opinion. Sorry, but I've heard this record too many times and think that if people can't live up to schedules, then the rest of us shouldn't have to pay for that. At the very least people should have the courtesy for a 2 minute email to say they can't make it or need a bit more time.

 

Next week is going to be a nightmare for me and I was certainly hoping to get a jump on all this.

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Well put! I couldn't agree more!

 

Katja - kdv

 

I guess I may be in the minority but I would rather NOT wait. I read the rules... I lived up to the deadlines...and there was plenty of time to do so regardless of what came up in life. I have a large family, work is a nightmare and lots of distractions too. However, I made a commitment and knew I had to fulfill it or send a note that I can't make it - easy as that.

 

It always amazes me how often people sign up for something and then don't/can't keep up their end. Always allowing these extensions just mitigates the trend for people to miss the deadlines - in my opinion. Sorry, but I've heard this record too many times and think that if people can't live up to schedules, then the rest of us shouldn't have to pay for that. At the very least people should have the courtesy for a 2 minute email to say they can't make it or need a bit more time.

 

Next week is going to be a nightmare for me and I was certainly hoping to get a jump on all this.

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Hmm. I wasn't aware that this was a long weekend in the US. :D

 

In hindsight, this might not have been the best weekend to have the deadline on. Oh well, not much I can do now. Two of those left to check in are Canadian anyway, so no excuse! ;)

 

And TMA is correct, I'll just leave their coins blank. No new lists will be required!

 

Any chance of a quick list of those who you haven't received lists from. That way we could all be confident that it wasn't our list that had gone AWOL.

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I guess I may be in the minority but I would rather NOT wait. I read the rules... I lived up to the deadlines...and there was plenty of time to do so regardless of what came up in life. I have a large family, work is a nightmare and lots of distractions too. However, I made a commitment and knew I had to fulfill it or send a note that I can't make it - easy as that.

 

It always amazes me how often people sign up for something and then don't/can't keep up their end. Always allowing these extensions just mitigates the trend for people to miss the deadlines - in my opinion. Sorry, but I've heard this record too many times and think that if people can't live up to schedules, then the rest of us shouldn't have to pay for that. At the very least people should have the courtesy for a 2 minute email to say they can't make it or need a bit more time.

 

Next week is going to be a nightmare for me and I was certainly hoping to get a jump on all this.

 

I agree with you completely. That was my nice side posting above :D I think it sucks to wait. . .

 

TMA

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I would also be happier with continuing on with only those who made the deadline rather than waiting (though I am grateful that E&CPlus3 found my mistake and gave me a chance to fix it!).

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Plenty of time was given for people to put together their want lists. I'm worried that if they didn't find the time to submit their want lists, or even send a quick email explaining their situation, that they might also have trouble finding the time to pack up their coins and ship them to the trade recipients.

 

MC/ZD

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Time schedule was stated in the opening post.

 

I'll be leaving for a short holiday on monday, so if we wait to long others might have to wait for my trading coins.

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Plenty of time was given for people to put together their want lists. I'm worried that if they didn't find the time to submit their want lists, or even send a quick email explaining their situation, that they might also have trouble finding the time to pack up their coins and ship them to the trade recipients.

 

MC/ZD

 

I definitely agree with this post. If they weren't responsible enough to get their want lists in on time, they'll probably won't be responsible in mailing their coins out.

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Plenty of time was given for people to put together their want lists. I'm worried that if they didn't find the time to submit their want lists, or even send a quick email explaining their situation, that they might also have trouble finding the time to pack up their coins and ship them to the trade recipients.

 

MC/ZD

 

I definitely agree with this post. If they weren't responsible enough to get their want lists in on time, they'll probably won't be responsible in mailing their coins out.

 

This is a concern of mine as well. I knew i was cutting it close with my list but I had no problem being bumped out if i missed the deadline. i knew the rules. IMO :D But I am not hosting the trade so I will do whatever the host decides.

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Hi All

My reply that I was prepared to wait was based on 15 people having not put their list in, plus the possibly of those 15 being the larger contributors to the list taking the coin count down by 980 coins (gotta love excel)

So in that case the chances of not getting some of your coins that you wanted increases greatly and no trade, hence the having to do the list again in the next maths trade ;)

 

Just as a side note the "happy to wait" was for those who went "I need x more time" not for those who are not responding to e-mails or we could be here for months. :D

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If I've read E&CPlusre3 corctly right now there should only be 3 or 4 no-showers left. I'd say let's go ahead without them...

 

Hi All

My reply that I was prepared to wait was based on 15 people having not put their list in, plus the possibly of those 15 being the larger contributors to the list taking the coin count down by 980 coins (gotta love excel)

So in that case the chances of not getting some of your coins that you wanted increases greatly and no trade, hence the having to do the list again in the next maths trade ;)

 

Just as a side note the "happy to wait" was for those who went "I need x more time" not for those who are not responding to e-mails or we could be here for months. :D

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I am also in the "Let's not wait" category for all the reasons people already mentioned. Plus, I just really want to see what happens next.

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I am also in the "Let's not wait" category for all the reasons people already mentioned. Plus, I just really want to see what happens next.

My situation exactly. :D

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Done.

 

Math Trade closed.

 

I'll do some final checks on the lists and wait for confirmations on a few ambiguous numbers (most have already responded. If you haven't received an email from me, I didn't find a problem with your list).

 

Then I will do a run with the software to see if it finds anything.

 

I hope to have the final trade lists published sometime tomorrow.

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I'm cool with this but can you please post who did not get their lists in so I can check to see if I have any of their coins on my want list? I just want to see. :D

 

CF30

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There were three participants who did not get lists in to me:

 

kbviper

Penny and Kona

Tucats

 

I've run the trade software and have had a clean run (no errors or warnings).

 

Of the 1437 entries (remember, a few coins were grouped, so there weren't actually 1488 entries), 673 were traded. That's a little more than 46%.

 

Its late, so I'll wait til tomorrow to post the lists.

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There were three participants who did not get lists in to me:

 

kbviper

Penny and Kona

Tucats

 

I've run the trade software and have had a clean run (no errors or warnings).

 

Of the 1437 entries (remember, a few coins were grouped, so there weren't actually 1488 entries), 673 were traded. That's a little more than 46%.

 

Its late, so I'll wait til tomorrow to post the lists.

 

Ahhhhh we have to wait one more night...............i think my head is gonna explode from anticipation. :D

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I only have seven coins total listed in the trade. I joined for the fun and learning experience, so no matter if all or none of my coins trade, I just want to thank E&Cplus3 for hosting this great math trade tonight before all the posting gets crazy. Good luck everybody!

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That's a little more than 46%.

 

How does that compare with past math trades? Is about half what usually gets traded?

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kbviper

Penny and Kona

Tucats

Well that only eliminated about 4 coins on my want list - a couple of which were duplicates. Probably didn't make a whole lot of difference anyway. I was being really picky so probably didn't trade a whole lot of the coins I listed. Thanks. ;) Looking forward to the results anxiously. :D

CF30

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That's a little more than 46%.

 

How does that compare with past math trades? Is about half what usually gets traded?

 

Math Trade 3 had 432 out of 709 coins trade (60.9%). I didn't go back and look at #2.

 

TMA

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E&Cplus3, thanks for organizing this mathtrade and all the work you did!!

 

Can't wait to see the results B) I hope I will be able to see them today (it's a bit later here in Europe, so I might have to wait untill mondaymorning....)

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Math Trade #1 had 95 of 184 items trade, or 51%

Math Trade #2 had 391 of 584 items trade, or 67%

 

I checked out the website of the guy who wrote TradeMaximizer (the software I used). He says it is guaranteed to find the maximum number of trades possible. He also cited a trade in which 2320 items were involved and 994 traded, or 43%

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I think the more people participate and most of all, the more coins are listed, thelower the total percentage of coins traed will be, because particpants have more to choose from and maybe tend to include only the coins they really desire a lot in their want list, instead of all the coins they would rather have instead of the ones they currently own. And of course, the shorter people's want lists, the fewer coins will be traded in the end...

 

That's a little more than 46%.

 

How does that compare with past math trades? Is about half what usually gets traded?

 

Math Trade 3 had 432 out of 709 coins trade (60.9%). I didn't go back and look at #2.

 

TMA

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