+maxkim Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Hi there, have swoped to Firefox to qsk the question... IE lasts about 15 mins then crashes... no response at all, tried quitting and rebooting... no success. Any helpwelcome. MaxKim Quote Link to comment
+jerryo Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Hi there, have swoped to Firefox to qsk the question... IE lasts about 15 mins then crashes... no response at all, tried quitting and rebooting... no success. Any helpwelcome. MaxKim Keep using Firefox Quote Link to comment
+careygang Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 (edited) Hi there, have swoped to Firefox to qsk the question... IE lasts about 15 mins then crashes... no response at all, tried quitting and rebooting... no success. Any helpwelcome. MaxKim Have you been doing updates? Are you the latest IE7? Sounds like you have a bug or virus. I've encountered several in the past that targeted IE and made it shut down. Stick with Firefox and then go searching the web for info on IE problems, don't be surprised if you get several thousand responses. Then of course don't be surprised it this thread gets closed or moved as it is not Geocaching related in any shape or form... Of course you could just stop wasting your time with IE... Edited December 22, 2008 by careygang Quote Link to comment
+Haggis Hunter Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Yes stick with Firefox, IE hasn't got good press at the moment - linky thingy Quote Link to comment
+Happy Humphrey Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 (edited) If you have Automatic Updates turned on, then you should have had the security update installed a few days ago. So the vulnerability isn't there now and it might be something else causing the crash. Check by going to the Microsoft Windows Update site ( in Review Your Update History here). Note that Firefox is also vulnerable in similar fashion, so you might want to update that as well (I seem to think that mine was updated recently but I'm not sure how you check). Edited December 22, 2008 by Happy Humphrey Quote Link to comment
+Bill D (wwh) Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Note that Firefox is also vulnerable in similar fashion, so you might want to update that as well (I seem to think that mine was updated recently but I'm not sure how you check). Help > About Mozilla Firefox If you're using version 2 you should be on 2.0.0.20, which is the final update for v2. I think the latest version of 3 is 3.0.5. Quote Link to comment
+Happy Humphrey Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 (edited) I'm on 3.0.5, and you've reassured me that it's the latest version, but I wonder whether that has the security patch to cover the potential attack identified by Microsoft. Edited December 22, 2008 by Happy Humphrey Quote Link to comment
+Bill D (wwh) Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 I'm on 3.0.5, and you've reassured me that it's the latest version, but I wonder whether that has the security patch to cover the potential attack identified by Microsoft. I think it does: Update info. 3.0.4 was a scheduled update on Thursday; 3.0.5 is security patches. Quote Link to comment
+Happy Humphrey Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 I'm on 3.0.5, and you've reassured me that it's the latest version, but I wonder whether that has the security patch to cover the potential attack identified by Microsoft. I think it does: Update info. 3.0.4 was a scheduled update on Thursday; 3.0.5 is security patches. Thanks! Interestingly, if you look at the comments at the foot of the page you linked to, there's just about the full range of experiences with both IE and FF - from crashing frequently to fully stable. I suspect it depends what else you have installed. Quote Link to comment
+sTeamTraen Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 (edited) I'm on 3.0.5, and you've reassured me that it's the latest version, but I wonder whether that has the security patch to cover the potential attack identified by Microsoft. Microsoft has not identified any security problem with Firefox. All browsers undergo regular security updates and almost none of the vulnerabilities are ever exploited (perhaps 5% of the IE ones, and I can't think of a single case for any other browser). The latest hoo-ha over IE was due to a combination of it being a very old bug (at least 9 years old, according to Microsoft) and also, frankly, a slow news week in the tech sector. Firefox's 3.0.5 update addresses some security issues - as does every FF update - but none of them are the "world to end" bug which MS patched last week (and which of course was not "world to end" anyway, given that allegedly one PC in 4 is part of a botnet already - it's like finding out that an MP is corrupt or a journalist made up a story, no big deal, par for the course). As ever, your single biggest potential computer problem is spontaneous hard disk failure (about 3-4% of all disks die per year, usually without anything which amounts to a practical warning). Protect against that, by having a recovery plan which you've tested - do you know where your reinstallation CD is? - and you also protect against every possible dreadful virus (almost all of which are fictitious anyway) because you can always recover by trashing your disk and starting again. Hard disk failure is to virus panics what heart disease is to terrorism: almost infinitely more likely to harm you but far less likely to get you worried (and thus prepared to buy in to non-remedies peddled by people with an agenda). Edited December 23, 2008 by sTeamTraen Quote Link to comment
+kewfriend Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 All sound advice from SteamTraen .... FF3 has actually been quite 'buggy' - lots of blogs etc about it and Mozilla have been happy to put their hands up to it. For instance the GE addin I was using regularly floored it. Quite a lot of audio/video plugins conflict so see their web pages for advice about which ones to switch off. I happily use FF, currently 3.0.5 - the earlier releases did completely crash the PC from time to time. IE7, fully patched (well that may be a misnomer), is fine. IE7 is quite bloated and has 'slow code', but (recent events apart) I've found it rock solid these days. Avoid HD failure by never turning off the PC - yep I'm running two PCs which are at least 9 years old! I havent got the heart to diss em and kill em. KF Quote Link to comment
+uktim Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 Hi there, have swoped to Firefox to qsk the question... IE lasts about 15 mins then crashes... no response at all, tried quitting and rebooting... no success. Any helpwelcome. MaxKim Keep using Firefox Is that the sluggish browser with the naff orange logo Quote Link to comment
+ghettomedic Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 Hi there, have swoped to Firefox to qsk the question... IE lasts about 15 mins then crashes... no response at all, tried quitting and rebooting... no success. Any helpwelcome. MaxKim Keep using Firefox Is that the sluggish browser with the naff orange logo DO NOT upgrade to IE 8. It caused so many problems. I use Google Chrome browser and LOVE IT! Quote Link to comment
+maxkim Posted December 23, 2008 Author Share Posted December 23, 2008 Thanks for the info and for allowing this to continue... I normally use IE7 ... fully updated but with the problems... I will try a reformat and reinstall over the holiday and see if that clears things... and may well switch to Firefox. Its the old story of learning something new and migrating all the fav's etc across.... It crashed when I tried to do it.... 6 times... LOL. Cheers M Quote Link to comment
+Munkeh Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 firefox will migrate your favorates accross during the install, theres nothing new really to learn, apart from firefox being a better browser Quote Link to comment
+uktim Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 firefox will migrate your favorates accross during the install, theres nothing new really to learn, apart from firefox being a better browser Whu would a significantly slower browser be better? Quote Link to comment
+MartyBartfast Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 firefox will migrate your favorates accross during the install, theres nothing new really to learn, apart from firefox being a better browser Whu would a significantly slower browser be better? Er secuirity, according to Secunia IE7 has 9 out of 33 vulnerabilities unpatched, the of which the most serious is moderatly critical. Firefox 3 has 1 out of 8 vulnerabilities upatched and it is non critical. And then there's all the addons such as adblock, flashblock, noscript etc, some of which enhance security no end. BTW it's not slower for me. Quote Link to comment
+careygang Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 I've always found Firefox quicker because it lacks a lot of the baggage that comes with IE... Quote Link to comment
+maxkim Posted December 24, 2008 Author Share Posted December 24, 2008 Both crashed on me today... Maybe time for a reformat and install... MaxKim Quote Link to comment
+FunLovingGeocacher Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 My firefox has crashed loads of times over the last 5 days, ever since the last revision. I've even had to go back to IE. Is there anyway to save all your add on, as I think reinstalling Firefox is the wayforward. Quote Link to comment
+careygang Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 I'm on Firefox 3.0.5 and no problems... Quote Link to comment
+maxkim Posted December 28, 2008 Author Share Posted December 28, 2008 Reformatted and reinstalled the lot, all ok for the last 20 hours... might even make it a full day... No probs on the Apple though Cheers MaxKim Quote Link to comment
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