+CacheOCD Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 I just can't decide. Please help me as tomorrow I am going to take the plunge and I want the best GPS for geocaching. OSes: OSX and Linux Marine use needed: no Use as a car GPS: maybe sometimes I am a first time geocacher. I am very technical but I value the opinions of you experienced cachers! Thanks and sorry for yet another "What to buy" thread.. Quote Link to comment
savant9 Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 Was that a Colorado 400t or an Oregon 400T? Quote Link to comment
+jbar Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 I just picked up an Oregon 300. I had a 60 csx and a Colorado 300. The Oregon is very impressive, I had a hard time with the display brightness on the Colorado when in the sun. Dispite what people are saying the Oregon is very readable in the sun. You need to adjust the view angle but I find it easy to read than the Colorado. I have the entire Eastern Seaboard topo loaded, it loads quickly, is very easy to use. The paperless cacheing is great. The battery life seems better than the Colorado. I've only been out once so far but so far I'm impressed. I perfer the 300 models, I like to have the maps on the PC. I just can't decide. Please help me as tomorrow I am going to take the plunge and I want the best GPS for geocaching. OSes: OSX and Linux Marine use needed: no Use as a car GPS: maybe sometimes I am a first time geocacher. I am very technical but I value the opinions of you experienced cachers! Thanks and sorry for yet another "What to buy" thread.. Quote Link to comment
+CacheOCD Posted December 16, 2008 Author Share Posted December 16, 2008 I just can't decide. Please help me as tomorrow I am going to take the plunge and I want the best GPS for geocaching. OSes: OSX and Linux Marine use needed: no Use as a car GPS: maybe sometimes I am a first time geocacher. I am very technical but I value the opinions of you experienced cachers! Thanks and sorry for yet another "What to buy" thread.. Sorry, Colorado 400t Quote Link to comment
+Paul_Aris Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 I love my Colorado 400T. If you are coming from a lower end model or never owned a GPS before you will love the Colorado. If you have had a 60 CX you may not like it as well because it is different. Quote Link to comment
+TotemLake Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 I wouldn't use the PN-40 as a car navigation tool. Screen is too small to focus on quickly enough to keep your attention on the road. If you have someone in the navigator's seat, this would be best. The PN40 also communicates with the Topo7 software to transfer files and data. So if this is something you can't do with the OS you have, then you would probably end up being frustrated by it. Quote Link to comment
+embra Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 A Windows emulator would be needed to run Topo7 (RRLover should be by in about 20 minutes to fill you in on the Mac perspective). I'll give a higher rating on the autorouting capabilities of the PN-40 than TotemLake; I think it's fine for occasional street routing although a good dedicated street GPS with touchscreen and text-to-speech is the best. I saw a refurb Garmin c330 for $79 on buy.com today. Quote Link to comment
robertlipe Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 There are countless threads contrasting the models and companies in these forums. I'll fixate just on the OS line. Linux has has never really caught the attention of the GPS makers. So for things like firmware or map updates, Linux just doesn't work for any of the GPSes. The Garmins you ask about have reasonable-ish Mac support. http://www8.garmin.com/macosx/ - it's not without excuses, but you can do pretty much what you need to do with them on OS/X. The CO shows up as a disk on Mac. Drag & drop the PQ in Finder to the mounted volume, eject it, and go caching. It's reasonable. (The device itself has well-documented frustrations...) There is no Mac support for the PN40's. Reports under Fusion/Parallels (which aren't really Mac support at all....) are spotty. Allegedly geocache xfer is coming with "Cache Register", but things like firmware and map updates have a less clear fugure in Delormesville. Quote Link to comment
+RRLover Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 (edited) A Windows emulator would be needed to run Topo7 (RRLover should be by in about 20 minutes to fill you in on the Mac perspective). I'll give a higher rating on the autorouting capabilities of the PN-40 than TotemLake; I think it's fine for occasional street routing although a good dedicated street GPS with touchscreen and text-to-speech is the best. I saw a refurb Garmin c330 for $79 on buy.com today. Ain't telepathy great? Just wish I had more control, and it wasn't so fleeting. I used the PN-40 for some auto routing the other day, as it stands the old TomTom Nav. 5 on the LifeDrive does better, I'll stick to that for auto routing for a while. It (lifeDrive) has a screen very much like the 'G' Oregon big and $_X in sunshine. The Jury's still out on the PN, as I didn't have the time to really un-hurriedly adjust the PN's settings and I think I had it set to too short of deviation before re-calc. It may have been the threshold setting I chose on the PN, but if you miss a turn you can have an adventure if you don't stop and let it gather it's wits about it. I loaded the DeLorme supplied 'Pre-cut' maps to an SDHC card. I put the card in the PN-40 and it built the folder "Maps". Removing the card I installed it to a card reader and "Drag 'n' Dropped" the maps for several states (everything but AK & HI) from the Western Region (blue) DVD in one swell foop to the card. < 20 min. later they were done. I chose at this time to also create a folder "screenshots" (note, plural) on the card. This folder caches a screenshot every time the power button is pressed. There's a fallback feature, whereas after pushing the power button one must accept with a press of 'enter' to actually turn it off, so if one takes a screenshot either let it timeout, or press 'delete' and the unit stays on. I tested the OS10.4.11 (Tiger) ability to recognize the device and all seems well, finder saw both EM (internal to device) & SD memories by choosing on the device at start up after connection, be warned there's a very short window in which to turn off device after you eject (you do eject don't you). I could just as easily foregone the card reader in the map loading, but it had already been done. To be honest loading up Topo 7 is still on my "To-Do" list. I really don't have much in the way of a tutorial, about all I can add is some have had no problems and others have had problems, emulators, are kind of notorious for having connection issues, and they seem to have neither rhyme nor reason. We're expecting a couple of arrivals from Sea-Tac Airport tomorrow, one we're ready for, the Mother- in-law we're not quite dialed in for yet. Come Wednesday I'll have some time to start playin'. Norm Edited December 16, 2008 by RRLover Quote Link to comment
+RRLover Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 I'da made the window if I didn't edit and spell check . . . ;^) Norm Quote Link to comment
+OldA'sFan Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 I just can't decide. Please help me as tomorrow I am going to take the plunge and I want the best GPS for geocaching. OSes: OSX and Linux Marine use needed: no Use as a car GPS: maybe sometimes I am a first time geocacher. I am very technical but I value the opinions of you experienced cachers! Thanks and sorry for yet another "What to buy" thread.. I just bought a PN 40 for my grandson as a Christmas present. Thought I better "fire it up" before giving it to him. Low and behold I can't get it to turn on. I went to the DeLorme forum and found that several others are having the same problem. Reading through the forum it seems the PN 40 has great potential, but it also seems to have a lot of "bugs". I'm thinking about returning the PN 40 to REI and getting a Garmin Vista HCx. I know they work and are simple to use. Quote Link to comment
+RRLover Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 (edited) I just can't decide. Please help me as tomorrow I am going to take the plunge and I want the best GPS for geocaching. OSes: OSX and Linux Marine use needed: no Use as a car GPS: maybe sometimes I am a first time geocacher. I am very technical but I value the opinions of you experienced cachers! Thanks and sorry for yet another "What to buy" thread.. I just bought a PN 40 for my grandson as a Christmas present. Thought I better "fire it up" before giving it to him. Low and behold I can't get it to turn on. I went to the DeLorme forum and found that several others are having the same problem. Reading through the forum it seems the PN 40 has great potential, but it also seems to have a lot of "bugs". I'm thinking about returning the PN 40 to REI and getting a Garmin Vista HCx. I know they work and are simple to use. Did you press and hold until the second 'greet screen' came up? <edit> I see by your other posting at Forum DeLorme that you did. Some devices shipped in the default to LiIo rechargeable mode, and in that condition one gets a very short window to get through the menus to change to alkeline, either blast through the menus to get to and change that option, or hook it to a USB cable on your computer so USB power will over ride the condition and change setting then. USB power gives a more forgiving "window of opportunity". From the sat. screen touch menu, toggle up once, enter, enter, toggle down twice, select battery of choice. Norm Edited December 16, 2008 by RRLover Quote Link to comment
+Redwoods Mtn Biker Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 I'm thinking about returning the PN 40 to REI and getting a Garmin Vista HCx. I know they work and are simple to use. ] Just in case you do, the Vista HCx is $165 at Walmart.com today! Quote Link to comment
+twolpert Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 I own a Colorado 400t and am pleased with it. At the right firesale price (with 2.8/2.8 firmware and maybe a baggie in the rain), I wouldn't hesitate to recommend it. But I hope Santa will bring me a PN-40. Quote Link to comment
Dosido Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 I have a CO 400t, and got to play with the PN-40 for a few minutes at a geomeet the other day. I love my CO, and once you're used to the bigger display, and larger text, it's tough to look at the PN-40 without some disappointment. The PN-40 was very fast in screen redraws, and looked nice, but it felt like I should get a magnifying glass to read the cache listing, etc. after being used to the CO screen/font size! Quote Link to comment
+CacheOCD Posted December 16, 2008 Author Share Posted December 16, 2008 I went with the etrex vista hcx. I figured if I stick with this hobby (I have a problem switching hobbies a lot) then down the road I can get something more advanced Thanks guys Quote Link to comment
+Maingray Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 GREAT choice. Its far more advanced than you think, you can get the garmin "X" models to a lot of stuff that only the "nextgen" models apparently can do e.g. geocaching information, custom icons etc Quote Link to comment
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