+duckdogs Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 They sell these with lids available. I notice that the lids fit tight have a gasket that might make them relatively waterproof similiar to a lock-n-lock. I would like to hide a large cache and this seems ideal. Has anyone tried them? If so, how did they stand up to the elements? Quote Link to comment
+Grigorii Rasputin Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 They sell these with lids available. I notice that the lids fit tight have a gasket that might make them relatively waterproof similiar to a lock-n-lock. I would like to hide a large cache and this seems ideal. Has anyone tried them? If so, how did they stand up to the elements? You might buy one, fill it with water, then leave it on its side for a few days and see if you get any leakage! Not a bad idea at all. If it really has a gasket, perhaps it was made for holding paint. If that's the case, it might work out very well as a cache! I'd be curious to see how you do with this! Pete Quote Link to comment
+Grigorii Rasputin Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 (edited) How much are they charging for those? Probably around $5.00 ? Pete Edited November 3, 2008 by Grigorii Rasputin Quote Link to comment
+Team GeoBlast Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 They sell these with lids available. I notice that the lids fit tight have a gasket that might make them relatively waterproof similiar to a lock-n-lock. I would like to hide a large cache and this seems ideal. Has anyone tried them? If so, how did they stand up to the elements? I am aware of a business that has used them with varying success in an application where no air can get to the product inside. The consensus is that the seal created by the lid is only as good as the last person that puts the lid back on. If the gasket gets pinched or comes out of the guide you will not have a waterproof seal. Where they are not similar to lock-n-lock is you cannot tell if you have sealed it correctly or not. I'd say a few factors will play into the effectiveness of this container. Things like: How often it is visited and the care used in replacing the lid. The amount of contamination that is allow to get on the gasket seal. If it is directly exposed to the weather. Quote Link to comment
+StarBrand Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 I've seen 2 of these "out there". Both had contents that were dry and secure. However, I think keeping them upright is the key. I know from past experience years ago that these really are only as good as the last person that put the lid on. Especially when sat on thier sides. Quote Link to comment
+IBcrashen Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 You can always improve the lid. better lid Quote Link to comment
+Too Tall John Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 (edited) You can always improve the lid. better lid Fom the linky:Simply secure on the Gamma Seal to your bucket and access items contained inside by un-screwing the inner portion of the lid. OOOHHH!! I WANT ONE!!!!! Edited November 4, 2008 by Too Tall John Quote Link to comment
+Grigorii Rasputin Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 You can always improve the lid. better lid YOU WON!!! That is a great product! I would never have dreamed someone made something like that. Guess that's why I'm not a millionaire, either!!!! Quote Link to comment
AZcachemeister Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Go to your local pool chemical company and ask for an emptied chlorine tab bucket. Might get one for free! Comes with a screw lid that was meant to be opened/closed repeatedly. BE SURE TO RINSE IT OUT THOROUGHLY! Here in AZ, the plastic would only last maybe 18 months before becoming brittle and prone to cracking/breakage. YMMV Quote Link to comment
+9Key Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 You can always improve the lid. better lid Fom the linky:Simply secure on the Gamma Seal to your bucket and access items contained inside by un-screwing the inner portion of the lid. OOOHHH!! I WANT ONE!!!!! I have a gamma seal lid on one of my 5 gallon bucket caches and the cache has been dry so far (nearly a year). I had another bucket with the lid that they sell at Home Depot and it leaked because people didn't snap it down completely. The gamma seal is more idiot proof. Quote Link to comment
+The Cooker Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 You can always improve the lid. better lid These are very nice! We use them on 5gal buckets to store food like flour, sugar, rice, etc... Never had a problem with them. The Cooker Quote Link to comment
+yamone Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 We have several of these buckets hidden as caches around our area and have never had one leak. We have even trimed the lid a little to make it easier to remove. Two of them have been out in the elements for over a year and are problem free. My hint though is if you put out a cache of this size is to load it with large swag. Its no fun for people to find a cache of that size and only find a few rubber balls and a plastic cowboy in it. Quote Link to comment
+briansnat Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 I think the hardest thing about using a container of this size is finding a place to hide it, not to mention that the buckets are bright orange. You'd have to either camoflage it very well or hide it far off the beaten path. Even then you'd be surprised how often people wander far off the beaten path, so it still might be accidentally discovered. Quote Link to comment
+infiniteMPG Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 They sell these with lids available. I notice that the lids fit tight have a gasket that might make them relatively waterproof similiar to a lock-n-lock. I would like to hide a large cache and this seems ideal. Has anyone tried them? If so, how did they stand up to the elements?We found one of these not too long ago out in a nature preserve.... but it was well camouflaged and hanging 40-feet in the air with a really cool rope and pulley system. It's been there for a while and everything was dry and secure. Quote Link to comment
John Beer Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 An old trick of the trade I used for keeping water from getting in underground wire splice is by using an inverted jar method... the water will not rise into the jar as when it tries it creates a positive pressure, and cannot rise any further.. Quote Link to comment
+paleolith Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Check the plastic type, the number in the chasing arrows and usually a letter code underneath. If it's polyethylene -- LDPE or HDPE, code 2 or 4 -- then it will degrade in sunlight. It may take a few years, since it's pretty heavy, but it will degrade. All the 5-gallon buckets I've seen are polyethylene. The one I've found as a cache was about five years old and had held up OK for most of that time, but was starting to get pretty brittle. So if you're only planning the cache for 2 or 3 years, it's probably a good container. If you want it to last longer, you'll either have to plan on replacing it or use a more durable container. Edward Quote Link to comment
+GeoRoo Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 (edited) If you go to your local grocery store (Safeway, Albertson's etc) go to the Deli or bakery section and ask if they have empty buckets. They throw them away, so they are more than happy to give you some. Most come with gasket lids. I've been using them for feeders, water carriers etc etc for years. I've done a few bucket caches, but have always been amazed that they've lasted as long as they have. Just way too big IMHO. Edited November 6, 2008 by GeoRoo Quote Link to comment
+vw_k Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 (edited) Best thing for these is home brewing! Edited November 6, 2008 by vw_keychain Quote Link to comment
+Grigorii Rasputin Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Best thing for these is home brewing! OH, YEAHHHHHHHHH!!! And, for some reason, hombrewed homebrew always tastes better in the fall!!!! I make a honey brown nut ale that would knock your socks off! Happy Brewing! Pete WWW.Glass-Cockpit.org Quote Link to comment
+sbell111 Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Am I the only one reminded of the doot bucket thread from late '02? Quote Link to comment
+brainandbraun Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 We recently found one of these and all was well with it. I think the key was the fact that it was hidden under a sandstone cliff that took some major balance to get to. It was totally out of the elements (short of a major windy rain storm) and not were anyone walks. It was kind of cool to hold the gps and be 100% accurate when I said "I'm standing on it." Quote Link to comment
+Renegade Knight Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 I've seen 2 of these "out there". Both had contents that were dry and secure. However, I think keeping them upright is the key. I know from past experience years ago that these really are only as good as the last person that put the lid on. Especially when sat on thier sides. I've used on. It worked out well. It was hidden upright. The gaskets don't just fall out. The cammo paint doesn't stick so well. Like all hides and containers they are as good as the last finder. Mostly finders can figure out a 5 gallon bucket. I had more problems with Decon containers. Quote Link to comment
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