Geo-Ninjas Posted September 5, 2008 Posted September 5, 2008 What is the rule about replacing someone elses Cache if it has been lost or Muggled? Geo-Ninjas Quote
+Keruso Posted September 5, 2008 Posted September 5, 2008 I'd let them know its missing i wouldn't want to replace there own cache.........they may get pissed off, or you may have the wrong size Quote
+StarBrand Posted September 5, 2008 Posted September 5, 2008 No rule. No guideline. Generally speaking however, it is highly frowned upon. How can you possibly know 100% for certain that a cache is missing unless you have been there and found it before? Adding a new one could create mass confusion. Now if the owner asks you to do some maintenance - that is another story....... Quote
Geo-Ninjas Posted September 5, 2008 Author Posted September 5, 2008 No rule. No guideline. Generally speaking however, it is highly frowned upon. How can you possibly know 100% for certain that a cache is missing unless you have been there and found it before? Adding a new one could create mass confusion. Now if the owner asks you to do some maintenance - that is another story....... We found the cache before, but last review on the website says its missing by the last bunch of visitors. I will contact the owners and let them know. Thank you for the input. Quote
+gpsfun Posted September 5, 2008 Posted September 5, 2008 I have personally found two cases of two caches in almost the same spot due to replacements by well meaning geocachers, and have heard of many others. It's commendable to be helpful, but then there's the rule of unintended consequences that will sometimes step in... Quote
+tozainamboku Posted September 5, 2008 Posted September 5, 2008 I have personally found two cases of two caches in almost the same spot due to replacements by well meaning geocachers, and have heard of many others. It's commendable to be helpful, but then there's the rule of unintended consequences that will sometimes step in... I've found at least two cases like this where the replacement cache was placed by the cache owner. I'm not convinced that the problem is any worse if someone other than the owner - particularly a prior finder - does the replacing. What I see as more of an issue are the people who won't accept not finding a cache and leave a replacement cache when they couldn't find the cache, sometimes without even calling the owner for a hint. I had one cache near me where the FTF didn't find the cache but found something nearby that didn't even match the description on the cache page. He added a slip of paper to what he found and claimed a find. Now that is what everyone finds and claims as a find. I'm thinking of not hiding anything and just posting some coordinates. Eventually someone will leave a "replacement" container and claim a find. This seems much easier and cheaper than hiding something. Quote
+OzzieSan Posted September 5, 2008 Posted September 5, 2008 (edited) I have personally found two cases of two caches in almost the same spot due to replacements by well meaning geocachers, and have heard of many others. It's commendable to be helpful, but then there's the rule of unintended consequences that will sometimes step in... I've found at least two cases like this where the replacement cache was placed by the cache owner. I'm not convinced that the problem is any worse if someone other than the owner - particularly a prior finder - does the replacing. What I see as more of an issue are the people who won't accept not finding a cache and leave a replacement cache when they couldn't find the cache, sometimes without even calling the owner for a hint. I had one cache near me where the FTF didn't find the cache but found something nearby that didn't even match the description on the cache page. He added a slip of paper to what he found and claimed a find. Now that is what everyone finds and claims as a find. I'm thinking of not hiding anything and just posting some coordinates. Eventually someone will leave a "replacement" container and claim a find. This seems much easier and cheaper than hiding something. I like it... You could call it the "Not A Cache Yet" Cache! Of course it would have to be a mystery cache. Edited September 5, 2008 by OzzieSan Quote
+briansnat Posted September 5, 2008 Posted September 5, 2008 Now that is what everyone finds and claims as a find. I'm thinking of not hiding anything and just posting some coordinates. Eventually someone will leave a "replacement" container and claim a find. This seems much easier and cheaper than hiding something Someone around here once left a slip of paper in a Ziploc and requested that each finder improve the cache in some way. Eventually it became a fully stocked ammo box. That was years ago and I doubt that would get past the reviewers today. As far as replacing missing caches, if you know for a fact its missing, meaning that you had already found it and it's gone, then it's fine to replace it if you have the OK of the owner. If the owner is MIA it's best to just issue a SBA and move on. Quote
+tozainamboku Posted September 5, 2008 Posted September 5, 2008 Someone around here once left a slip of paper in a Ziploc and requested that each finder improve the cache in some way. Eventually it became a fully stocked ammo box. That was years ago and I doubt that would get past the reviewers today. Of course not. Because that implies that a fully stocked ammo box is better than some other type of hide and we all know that you are not allowed to say that here. Quote
+Renegade Knight Posted September 5, 2008 Posted September 5, 2008 The first rule is to email the owner and ask. Too many variables to skip that step in most situations. Quote
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