+woodman5898 Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 Has anyone had a chance to try out Garmin's new Topo U.S. 24K for WA & OR? I'm wondering what it looks like on a 60csx. Also how much information it shows. Quote Link to comment
square_peg Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 (edited) I have the 'Above the Timber' Washington maps. It shows alot. What you'd see on a typical 24K topo map. Anything in particular you're interested in? Link. http://www.abovethetimber.com/Features.htm I haven't seen the Garmin stuff yet. Edited July 8, 2008 by square_peg Quote Link to comment
square_peg Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 (edited) Duplicate post deleted. Edited July 8, 2008 by square_peg Quote Link to comment
+woodman5898 Posted July 8, 2008 Author Share Posted July 8, 2008 I have the 'Above the Timber' Washington maps. It shows alot. What you'd see on a typical 24K topo map. Anything in particular you're interested in? Link. http://www.abovethetimber.com/Features.htm I haven't seen the Garmin stuff yet. I'm looking at Above the Timber maps too. If they only had maps for Oregon as well. As I live in Vancouver, WA I'd like to have both states. That's where Garmin might be better. Quote Link to comment
square_peg Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 I didn't know Garmin had 24K Topos for entire states. I thought they just had national parks. Is their US Topo 24K? Quote Link to comment
+woodman5898 Posted July 8, 2008 Author Share Posted July 8, 2008 I didn't know Garmin had 24K Topos for entire states. I thought they just had national parks. Is their US Topo 24K? I just found out about them over the weekend. Garmin 24k Quote Link to comment
+Difranco Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 Pricey.. I wish it came on CD/DVD so I could load it into Mapsource. Quote Link to comment
+shunra Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 I didn't know Garmin had 24K Topos for entire states. I thought they just had national parks. Is their US Topo 24K? I just found out about them over the weekend. Garmin 24k So - Garmin comes at $99 for WA and OR combined on a micro SD card, whereas Above The Timber sells WA alone for download for $79? Is there a quality difference? Quote Link to comment
+TeamIDFC Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 Pricey.. I wish it came on CD/DVD so I could load it into Mapsource. I've never bought maps from Garmin on SD cards so pardon the potentially ignorant question - why can't they be copied from the card to your PC? Assuming the maps are just IMG files, can't you put the micro-SD card in the SD adpater and put that in a reader attached to the PC and copy away? Or are they protected somehow? One cool thing I saw with them: routable trails. If the trails are reasonably complete that's a semi-cool feature... Quote Link to comment
jholly Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 Pricey.. I wish it came on CD/DVD so I could load it into Mapsource. I've never bought maps from Garmin on SD cards so pardon the potentially ignorant question - why can't they be copied from the card to your PC? Assuming the maps are just IMG files, can't you put the micro-SD card in the SD adpater and put that in a reader attached to the PC and copy away? Or are they protected somehow? One cool thing I saw with them: routable trails. If the trails are reasonably complete that's a semi-cool feature... The SD part of SD cards stands for Secure Data. There is a mechanism to protect the data on the card, and PC's don't have the requisite mechanism to read the data. Jim Quote Link to comment
+TeamIDFC Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 Hmm. Poorly worded original question. TOPO TOPO maps specifically say you can't copy the data from the card. That's clear - they are using CPRM - got it. Page: http://www8.garmin.com/cartography/topo/index.jsp 24k The 24k page, however, doesn't say anything about not copying, and further confuses the issue by including an SD card adapter. If they were only designed to be inserted into GPS units, why include the adapter? Page: http://www8.garmin.com/cartography/topo/topous24kcard.jsp So I guess most specifically: has anyone actually purchased one of these 24k cards and tried to copy the data? Quote Link to comment
+klossner Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 The 24k page, however, doesn't say anything about not copying, and further confuses the issue by including an SD card adapter. If they were only designed to be inserted into GPS units, why include the adapter?It's not a PC adapter. It lets you plug a microSD card into a GPSr that takes SD cards (like the Colorado). Quote Link to comment
+TeamIDFC Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 It's not a PC adapter. It lets you plug a microSD card into a GPSr that takes SD cards (like the Colorado). Didn't know the Colorado used SD instead of microSD - interesting. Though there is no such thing as a "PC adapter"... Regardless, the question still stands. Does anyone actually have verifiable data about the 24k card? While likely that is uses CPRM like the TOPO cards do the website doesn't specify and so far nobody commenting here actually has one... Quote Link to comment
square_peg Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 You might be able to load the Above the Timber 24K's on more than one micro-SD. Quote Link to comment
square_peg Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 (edited) You might be able to load the Above the Timber 24K's on more than one micro-SD. Like suppose your original micro-SD was damaged or lost. Edited July 10, 2008 by square_peg Quote Link to comment
+Lightning Jeff Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 (edited) I received my copy of the Garmin Northwest 24k last week, and had a chance to try it out over the weekend. I really like it. It is like looking at a 7.5 topo map - all the contours and other detail appear to be there. I think it will be great for caching, with a much higher, more usable level of detail than the 100k topo product. One thing to note, though, is that with that much detail, it can get a bit ugly (and slow to load) if you zoom out too far. (Of course if you're zoomed out, you can turn off the 24k layer and show whatever else you have loaded.) On the other hand, zoomed in to, say, .3 mi or closer, it looks fantastic. I tried it on my Colorado and my 60CSx. It looks good on the 60CSx, the main difference being you don't get the shading that is optional on the Colorado. I did not try copying the map file to my PC. I have the National Geographic TOPO product for that, so I'm happy with the SD format for this product. Screen Shots: .2 Miles, Shading On .2 Miles, Shading Off .8 Miles 2 Miles (The red trails are from Moun10bike's Northwest Trails mapset, not the Topo product.) Edited July 21, 2008 by Lightning Jeff Quote Link to comment
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