+Klatch Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 Download available here. Very nice graphics, but it does not display custom topo maps I made. I am curious to see if others experience any similar results. Quote Link to comment
+Red90 Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 My custom maps work, but I'm seeing no text for ANY labels regardless of the map set. The main change is to make the graphics Nuvilike.... Quote Link to comment
shivia Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 Very slow to refresh the display when we drag around the map. Quote Link to comment
+hardwire Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 Looks like they removed the preference option for icon size.. Quote Link to comment
+hardwire Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 Looks like the right mouse click menu has some unreliable code in it... It locks up sometimes and becomes unresponsive.... it maybe related to being zoomed in.... Quote Link to comment
MtnHermit Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 The main change is to make the graphics Nuvilike....Do you suppose that the handhelds (60/76, Vista) will also get this Nuvi like transformation? BTW, the screenshots you posted are truly worth 1000 words. Thanks Quote Link to comment
MtnHermit Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 Download available here. Very nice graphics, but it does not display custom topo maps I made. I am curious to see if others experience any similar results. Thanks for the link. I tried two custom map sets 1] Above the Timber's Colo Topos and 2] IndyJpr's Utah Topos. #2 caused 6.14.0.1Beta to error. I then used MapSetToolKit to delete the Utah Topos from the registry. Mapsource 6.14.0.1Beta then opened fine. From my perspective this is a major Mapsource upgrade. Theirs a class of road used for city streets and important gravel roads, which all but disappeared before, now those back country roads jump out. Kudos Garmin! Quote Link to comment
Tomas4x4 Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 (edited) It is not drawing street names and other labels; tooltips are broken as well: you get only tiny little square with '-' inside. When I installed it, it worked for a short while but then I tried to change font and I have not seen a single label ever since (tried to uninstall and reinstall). Software obviously knows about names because when you right click, you get them. From Red90's screenshot it is obvious that this problem is not specific to my computer. There are also problems with screen repainting in many cases and you have to zoom in and out to get screen to refresh. Painting is rather slow as well, definitely slower than it used to be and I'd say that Google maps are faster. My computer is few years old but definitely still quite capable. It seems like painting labels is major problem for Garmin lately, first Colorado (it is still not 100% working in current firmware version) and now even MapSource is affected. One feature I would love to see in next non-beta version would be elevation depicted by color like it is on Colorado (green-yellow-brown) and ability to see terrain shading even on maps without DEM (City Navigator), it would probably require new basemap but that could be good marketing strategy to promote Colorado. I am rather disappointed with Garmin. This should be called ALPHA when such a major feature is not working. On the positive side, it gets installed along side current MapSource so you are not really risking anything by trying it. UPDATE: I have tried to install the software on my work computer and it did not show any label from the beginning. Edited May 31, 2008 by Tomas4x4 Quote Link to comment
strumble Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 (edited) In the two screenshots [identical Scale] the perspective of the Beta version [top screenshot] is totally different!!!!!! The downloads are different sizes:- Beta - 11,266kb v3137 - 46,634kb Edited May 31, 2008 by strumble Quote Link to comment
MtnHermit Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 In the two screenshots [identical Scale] the perspective of the Beta version [top screenshot] is totally different!!!!!!Check: File > Preferences > Position > Datum. I suspect they're different. Quote Link to comment
strumble Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 In the two screenshots [identical Scale] the perspective of the Beta version [top screenshot] is totally different!!!!!!Check: File > Preferences > Position > Datum. I suspect they're different. No they are the same! Quote Link to comment
shivia Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 Me too, i found the beta version is zoomed little bit in more than present version for the exactly same scale. Quote Link to comment
strumble Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 Me too, i found the beta version is zoomed little bit in more than present version for the exactly same scale. It has been 'elongated'/stretched along the East to West direction! Quote Link to comment
Mike Hartland Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 (edited) Download available here. Very nice graphics, but it does not display custom topo maps I made. I am curious to see if others experience any similar results. Thanks for posting this. Finally roads look like roads and not the same as paths. I can live with the slower graphics and without the labels for now. I am sure that they will re-appear with the next release. Edited May 31, 2008 by Mike Hartland Quote Link to comment
shivia Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 (edited) ----- ------ Edited May 31, 2008 by shivia Quote Link to comment
+jotne Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 (edited) I am sure that they will re-appear with the next release. I am not sure. Garmin remove more and more. Live tracking removed from MapSource (nRoute do not have all the function of MapSource) Not able to see POI on Nüvi above 80m No street labels.. Edited May 31, 2008 by jotne Quote Link to comment
GeoBobC Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 I just upgraded to the beta version from 6.13.2. In addition to the previously mentioned issues, I noticed two things: (a) the graphics are different. Text such as place appears blurred in the beta version compared to 6.13.2; ( waypoint symbols are different: I have waypoints with the standard dot (medium city) that now appear with a much larger green circle in the beta version. Did these changes just occur, or did they get introduced in a version between 6.13.2 and the 6.14 beta version? Quote Link to comment
Hertzog Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 I just upgraded to the beta version from 6.13.2. In addition to the previously mentioned issues, I noticed two things: (a) the graphics are different. Text such as place appears blurred in the beta version compared to 6.13.2; ( waypoint symbols are different: I have waypoints with the standard dot (medium city) that now appear with a much larger green circle in the beta version. Did these changes just occur, or did they get introduced in a version between 6.13.2 and the 6.14 beta version? The blurring is an intermediate step; if you wait long enough it should clear up (at least that's what I am seeing). I think everything you are seeing starts with this Beta version. Quote Link to comment
+LaRobley Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 I uploaded the beta version now nothing works. the old mapsource gives me registery errors and the beta version gives me NTDBData error not sure what I did. I removed both programs and reinstalled and its the same thing Quote Link to comment
+Dog Knows Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 I can't get the new beta version to work because of the NTDBData error, but I was able to re-install the previous version and get it to work. Quote Link to comment
+LaRobley Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 I also got my previous version to work finally. Quote Link to comment
+Prime Suspect Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 I uploaded the beta version now nothing works. the old mapsource gives me registery errors and the beta version gives me NTDBData error not sure what I did. I removed both programs and reinstalled and its the same thing What's your OS, and what was your previous version? Quote Link to comment
+LaRobley Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 Iam using vista and mapsource v6.13.7 Quote Link to comment
+Dog Knows Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 Ditto for me. Vista and MapSource 6.13.7. Quote Link to comment
+Red90 Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 I can't get the new beta version to work because of the NTDBData error, but I was able to re-install the previous version and get it to work. That would be related to Ibycus Topo maps. Note that this beta should not overwrite the "regular" version. I am able to run them both at the same time. Quote Link to comment
+Red90 Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 The main change is to make the graphics Nuvilike....Do you suppose that the handhelds (60/76, Vista) will also get this Nuvi like transformation? BTW, the screenshots you posted are truly worth 1000 words. Thanks I doubt it. The screens don't have enough resolution. Plus Garmin does not normal "add" features to models unless they are very new. Quote Link to comment
+Dog Knows Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 That would be related to Ibycus Topo maps. Can I get the beta version to work with Ibycus Topo maps installed, or do I need to remove them? Quote Link to comment
capt caper Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 After I installed the Beta I lost my maps. they won't show. Quote Link to comment
+Red90 Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 Can I get the beta version to work with Ibycus Topo maps installed, or do I need to remove them? No. There is a "bug" that prevent certain custom maps from working. AFAIK, nobody knows the reason. IMO, it does not matter as there is more broken with this beta than working. There is no point using it. Go back to the regular Mapsource. Quote Link to comment
eaparks Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 Can I get the beta version to work with Ibycus Topo maps installed, or do I need to remove them? No. There is a "bug" that prevent certain custom maps from working. AFAIK, nobody knows the reason. IMO, it does not matter as there is more broken with this beta than working. There is no point using it. Go back to the regular Mapsource. Thanks Red, that's what I was waiting to see if anyone was going to say before I tried it for myself. You probably saved me a lot of headaches with my custom maps. Quote Link to comment
Mike Hartland Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 After I installed the Beta I lost my maps. they won't show. When following a route devised using the new beta version of Mapsource, my Vista Hcx failed to show my TOPO UK map, and denied having them, when I looked in the map setup page. All it showed was the basemap, which was not much use in the terrain I was walking. As soon as I stop navigating the contours etc. are back. As nice as it appears, I will give the beta release a miss until the full product is ready. Quote Link to comment
capt caper Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 After I installed the Beta I lost my maps. they won't show. When following a route devised using the new beta version of Mapsource, my Vista Hcx failed to show my TOPO UK map, and denied having them, when I looked in the map setup page. All it showed was the basemap, which was not much use in the terrain I was walking. As soon as I stop navigating the contours etc. are back. As nice as it appears, I will give the beta release a miss until the full product is ready. I lost the maps in Mapsource on my Laptop.. I went back to the last version..In all the years I've been updateing Mapsource this has never happened. Quote Link to comment
+Red90 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 I lost the maps in Mapsource on my Laptop.. I went back to the last version..In all the years I've been updateing Mapsource this has never happened. Once again.... It is NOT an update. It installs a second, completely different version of Mapsource. At any time you can run the old version. The new version does not affect the old one...... Quote Link to comment
+kezlu Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 No. There is a "bug" that prevent certain custom maps from working. AFAIK, nobody knows the reason. Isn't it just possible that one of the reasons for this update is to keep 'certain custom maps' from working? Ken Z Quote Link to comment
xxgg Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 I wish Garmin would make this slow a** program to utilize multi-CPU to speed things up &/or utilize video card to accelerated it. Quote Link to comment
GeoBobC Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 Why is the beta version so much smaller? The 6.13.7 install exe takes up 46,606 KB while the beta install is only 11,266 KB. Quote Link to comment
+julianh Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 Why is the beta version so much smaller? The 6.13.7 install exe takes up 46,606 KB while the beta install is only 11,266 KB. Probably because of all the key functionality they left out! Quote Link to comment
+Team XL5 Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 Why is the beta version so much smaller? The 6.13.7 install exe takes up 46,606 KB while the beta install is only 11,266 KB. The betas only have English language included. The release versions have multiple languages making the final version bigger. Quote Link to comment
+GSVNoFixedAbode Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 No. There is a "bug" that prevent certain custom maps from working. AFAIK, nobody knows the reason. Isn't it just possible that one of the reasons for this update is to keep 'certain custom maps' from working? Ken Z From what I've read I believe it's to do with the ProductCode/Family ID and ID values of the maps that get loaded into the registry. Garmin appear to have tightened up on what Mapsource will accept as valid. Quote Link to comment
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