+oldschool Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 What is the name of the hardest cache in the United States to find? Quote Link to comment
+Vinny & Sue Team Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 What is the name of the hardest cache in the United States to find? You may wish to be more explicit in your question, in terms of exactly what you mean by "hardest to find", as "hardest to find" could simply be a nano cache hidden in a boulder field, or an "evil" urban nanocache hide, or it could mean really extreme terrain, which involves its own difficulties. And when it comes to extreme terrain, even here, would you consider a cache that requires a 14 mile hike each way to be "hardest", or would you consider a cache placed atop a sheer vertical 80-foot tall stone pier in the middle of a river, which requires all sorts of special equipment and skills to access (or a good helicopter and a pilot with nerves of steel), such as my Psycho Urban Cache #13 - Impossible! Give Up Now!, to be harder? Quote Link to comment
+oldschool Posted May 23, 2008 Author Share Posted May 23, 2008 Wow. Yea, I mean that kind of difficult. Or even harder if thats even possable lol. Quote Link to comment
+joranda Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 He is one that I want to do. It was placed in 2003 and only had two groups even to get to it and find it. It's called Middle Saddle, GCG6NC. If I ever get to Arizona, I'm going for it. Quote Link to comment
+oldschool Posted May 23, 2008 Author Share Posted May 23, 2008 I'll have to keep that one in mind. Found one recently that rates as a 5/5 that I plan on going after. We shall see if its worth the hunt. Its called Tube Torcher 2 gcwa47. Quote Link to comment
NH_matt Posted May 24, 2008 Share Posted May 24, 2008 I agree that there are many different kinds of "hard". I have had some that were personally hard for me to find that others find right off. Then there is one that I did that was as simple to find as anything but is nearly impossible to get to. It is technically in the US but it is 9500 miles from here. My picture next to the post explains it. It is called " No Further South From Here". Quote Link to comment
+nemisis83 Posted May 24, 2008 Share Posted May 24, 2008 What is the name of the hardest cache in the United States to find? you know there are so many caches out there that that is sorta a completly personal preferance that can only be aswered by you. Where every one has their own mind set and where certain caches might seem like a 1 to me might be a 5+ to you and vise versa. Quote Link to comment
+Gipsie Posted May 24, 2008 Share Posted May 24, 2008 The hardest caches I have ever worked on and finished are by our South Jersey "Bad Boys of Geocaching" and are called Choreographed Chaos and Cerebral Codex Multiple stages, great physical challenges and amazingly awesome puzzles. I had a great team working with me and it took us three months to complete both caches. Check them out. You can do Cerebral Codex from home. Quote Link to comment
+keehotee Posted May 24, 2008 Share Posted May 24, 2008 At the risk of getting shot down in flames - and with no detriment meant to anybody at all..... the location of Psycho Urban #13 seems pretty specific ie spot on co-ords, and the cache isn't hidden at all (In plain sight or can be found in a few minutes of searching.). Wouldn't that make the cache a 1/5 rather than a 5/5? Quote Link to comment
+TheAlabamaRambler Posted May 25, 2008 Share Posted May 25, 2008 At the risk of getting shot down in flames - and with no detriment meant to anybody at all..... the location of Psycho Urban #13 seems pretty specific ie spot on co-ords, and the cache isn't hidden at all (In plain sight or can be found in a few minutes of searching.). Wouldn't that make the cache a 1/5 rather than a 5/5? Too funny! It will warp Vinny to admit it, but I suppose that yes, once you get to the top of the pylon it's a simple find! Quote Link to comment
4wheelin_fool Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 At the risk of getting shot down in flames - and with no detriment meant to anybody at all..... the location of Psycho Urban #13 seems pretty specific ie spot on co-ords, and the cache isn't hidden at all (In plain sight or can be found in a few minutes of searching.). Wouldn't that make the cache a 1/5 rather than a 5/5? Too funny! It will warp Vinny to admit it, but I suppose that yes, once you get to the top of the pylon it's a simple find! Not really. I heard the "yellow box" is actually the most obvious of over 19 decoy caches he has up there. A few of the fake rocks already fell off in a recent storm, so the exact number is unknown. Quote Link to comment
+ProjectFred325 Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 At the risk of getting shot down in flames - and with no detriment meant to anybody at all..... the location of Psycho Urban #13 seems pretty specific ie spot on co-ords, and the cache isn't hidden at all (In plain sight or can be found in a few minutes of searching.). Wouldn't that make the cache a 1/5 rather than a 5/5? Too funny! It will warp Vinny to admit it, but I suppose that yes, once you get to the top of the pylon it's a simple find! Not really. I heard the "yellow box" is actually the most obvious of over 19 decoy caches he has up there. A few of the fake rocks already fell off in a recent storm, so the exact number is unknown. Cache description says nothing of the decoy containers. Unless I was to tired when I read it. (putting on asbestos suit) I thought this cache was over rated, as I read it, a terrain 5 YES!!! difficulty 1. CO even tells you the container in the description in case you do use remote vehicle. A simple find, IMO equals a difficulty rating of 1. enter the flames. Quote Link to comment
+Radnord Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 It really depends on whether you are speaking of difficulty or terrain. Terrain doesn't bother me, I like to hike 5 miles for a cache. To me the ones that are the hardest are where you can be looking right at it with a hint from the owner and a friend who has already found it pointing right at it, and you still can't find it. Now that's hard. I found one of these recently that was rated a 3.5 in difficulty, but probably should have been 4.5... or at least I like to think so. Happy Caching! Quote Link to comment
Dinoprophet Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 At the risk of getting shot down in flames - and with no detriment meant to anybody at all..... the location of Psycho Urban #13 seems pretty specific ie spot on co-ords, and the cache isn't hidden at all (In plain sight or can be found in a few minutes of searching.). Wouldn't that make the cache a 1/5 rather than a 5/5? Generally, I agree with that take on interpretting the Difficulty rating. However, there has to be something to distinguish between Vinnie's caches and, for example, an easy find on an island, 200 feet from shore in an 8-feet deep pond. That would also be a 1/5. I've never liked the use of 5-star Terrain to indicate special equipment. I'd rather see Special Equipment flagged separately. Quote Link to comment
drthtater Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 I've always heard that Tube Torcher II was tough... Quote Link to comment
+Zop Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 It's all in your perspective. I've walked right up to a 5x1 but couldn't find a 1x1 an inch infront of my face. Quote Link to comment
+MountainRacer Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 I think it'd be worth the three bucks just to be able to see the page for Psycho Urban #13. I've heard a lot about it, and often wonder just how I'd do. Quote Link to comment
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