Would you seek a cache like this

[+scorpionkill]

I don't see how finding a great number of caches has anything to do with being able to place a very effective and fun one on the first try.

 

You don't see how having experience with something is helpful in doing that something?

 

I am more than capable of understanding what makes up a good cache.

 

Nobody is debating your capability to understand what makes up a good cache - what is questioned is whether you have the experience to understand what makes up a good cache and the problems inherent in maintaining a cache. These are two totally different issues.

 

I have the experience in understanding what makes up a good cache. I am pretty selective with the caches I go for. You yourself only have less than 80 finds and only one multi cache so do you have the experience to doubt me? Seems to me you like the easy ones. I highly enjoy multi and mystery caches and have almost switched entirely to only seeking this type of cache.

 

Sorry to break this to you but geocaching isn't exactly rocket science. Like another poster said some people think hiding a film canister under a lamp post is an worthwile cache. I call it a giant waste of time and energy. Caches to me should either take you to a great location or challenge/entertain you. I am well aware of possible maintance issues and I will test out the procedure before going live with the cache. I will make adjustments as neccesary.

[O-Mega]

You know, I was thinking that it may not be a bad idea to post each video zipped seperately on a website you control. But password protect it and leave the password at each stage for each coresponding file. That way people could download the files into their laptops and play the file at the appropriate stage...yea I know, some cachers would not want to carry their laptop but then again not everyone gets to do every the cache.

[+Team GeoBlast]

I don't see how finding a great number of caches has anything to do with being able to place a very effective and fun one on the first try.

 

You don't see how having experience with something is helpful in doing that something?

 

I am more than capable of understanding what makes up a good cache.

 

Nobody is debating your capability to understand what makes up a good cache - what is questioned is whether you have the experience to understand what makes up a good cache and the problems inherent in maintaining a cache. These are two totally different issues.

 

I have the experience in understanding what makes up a good cache. I am pretty selective with the caches I go for. You yourself only have less than 80 finds and only one multi cache so do you have the experience to doubt me? Seems to me you like the easy ones. I highly enjoy multi and mystery caches and have almost switched entirely to only seeking this type of cache.

 

Sorry to break this to you but geocaching isn't exactly rocket science. Like another poster said some people think hiding a film canister under a lamp post is an worthwile cache. I call it a giant waste of time and energy. Caches to me should either take you to a great location or challenge/entertain you. I am well aware of possible maintance issues and I will test out the procedure before going live with the cache. I will make adjustments as neccesary.

 

You can field test until you are blue in the face but predicting how a group of cachers is going to interact with a cache that has this much detail, is right up there with rocket science. I'm glad you are ready to make the adjustments needed. I'm going to go out on a limb and predict that you'll gain a new appreciation for the complexity of hiding and maintaining a geocache once this one is listed.

Edited May 23, 2008 by Team GeoBlast

[+TotemLake]

daggom double posts

Edited May 23, 2008 by TotemLake

[+TotemLake]

Nobody? Chickens!

 

Seriously. I want to know what you think prior to starting this one.

 

 

Synopsis. A novice cryptozooligist embarks on a mission to capure video proof of the existance of bigfoot. Communications from him cease and when he does not return at the close of his scheduled date of return a search party is formed. The search party begins the search at the spot where he last communicated his whereabouts via satelite phone. The searchers find a ransacked campsite but no sign of him. Examining the items at the camp a video disk is found that contains footage of his previous few days. His video describes what he has encountered the last few days and his fear for his life.

 

Seakers would need a portable DVD player to play the footage which would reveal clues to the next location. Once completed seekers would learn what happened to this man and if he did capture footage of an allusive Noth American Primate.

 

The cache is proposed as several stage night cache.

 

* I can't give away all of the details of this cache but I will say this, Seekers of this cache will feel real fear and be immerced in a professional quality movie about the search for bigfoot. FTF will obtain a full DVD of the movie with scenes not in the clue videos.

You were obviously very excited to wait only 2 hours for posts to start.

 

That being said, an interesting cache idea and it's doable. I'd say go for it. You'll get rave reviews from the ones who go after it if it is done right.

Edited May 23, 2008 by TotemLake

[+Castle Mischief]

Go for it. The worst that could happen is that you fail miserably and a few people walk around in the woods at night. I've tried a local night cache that was far less complicated and failed to find it twice. I looked for it because I had no issues walking around the woods at night without a potential find at the end of the hike.

 

Maybe you'll only have a few finders. Maybe the DVDs will be stolen. Maybe somebody will fall and trash their $800 laptop.

 

I've seen myself and other cachers take on similar chances on much less interesting caches. There already are caches with specific equipment requirements and few finders. There already are multi-caches with missing containers or hints. And I'm sure that more than a handful of people have fallen on their GPSr or dropped it and watched their multi-hundred dollar toy fall to little pieces of kibble.

 

As long as you realize the risks, are willing to maintain the cache (you seem to have that covered), have the capacity to learn from any problems along the way, are open to making adjustments once the cache is placed, and can find the constructive ideas from non-constructive criticism... then talk to your local reviewer and work out any concerns they have and go for it.

Edited May 23, 2008 by Castle Mischief

[Groundcrawler]

Just to get my 2 cents in. Yes, I would most definitely do this cache if it was in my area. It sounds like it would be fun.

[+SUV2003]

I'm in! When does it start?

[barnabasbenn]

Sounds great,wish it was gonna be around here somewhere,as far as the dvd player goes my 60CSx cost way more than the player and it goes to the woods without a thought

[+scorpionkill]

Here is a quick edit of a teaser trailer for the cache..just to set the idea

 

[+Vanillahip]

I would drive a good distance to do that cache (and presumably others in the area). Sounds like a great centerpiece for a Geo-vacation!

 

(Great sounds on that you-tube clip btw!)

[+scorpionkill]

I would drive a good distance to do that cache (and presumably others in the area). Sounds like a great centerpiece for a Geo-vacation!

 

(Great sounds on that you-tube clip btw!)

 

Thanks. The movie will be recorded in 5.1 surround sound and include sounds just like that. I wanted to do a quick edit using some shots of potential filming areas and test footage to give you all an idea of the feel of the movie. Once we actually film we will have more material to create a real trailer that will really set the mood.

 

We will also be creating a website to tell the backstory (information that will not be in the films) Seekers will need to be aware of this site for clues.

[+Kit Fox]

I would drive a good distance to do that cache (and presumably others in the area). Sounds like a great centerpiece for a Geo-vacation!

 

(Great sounds on that you-tube clip btw!)

 

Thanks. The movie will be recorded in 5.1 surround sound and include sounds just like that. I wanted to do a quick edit using some shots of potential filming areas and test footage to give you all an idea of the feel of the movie. Once we actually film we will have more material to create a real trailer that will really set the mood.

 

We will also be creating a website to tell the backstory (information that will not be in the films) Seekers will need to be aware of this site for clues.

 

Which video editing program do you use?

 

Video caches truly raise the creativity bar. MY friend's cache Any Gun Can Play became an instant hit.

[+scorpionkill]

I would drive a good distance to do that cache (and presumably others in the area). Sounds like a great centerpiece for a Geo-vacation!

 

(Great sounds on that you-tube clip btw!)

 

Thanks. The movie will be recorded in 5.1 surround sound and include sounds just like that. I wanted to do a quick edit using some shots of potential filming areas and test footage to give you all an idea of the feel of the movie. Once we actually film we will have more material to create a real trailer that will really set the mood.

 

We will also be creating a website to tell the backstory (information that will not be in the films) Seekers will need to be aware of this site for clues.

 

Which video editing program do you use?

 

Video caches truly raise the creativity bar. MY friend's cache Any Gun Can Play became an instant hit.

 

Right now I am using Cyberlink Powerdirector and Sony vegas. Looking to move to Pinnacle Studio Ultimate 11

[+HuggyFamily]

I love some of the replies in this thread, they are just classic.

 

I'd hate to break my DVD player......if I fell.

 

Most cachers I've seen are carrying a $250-$400 GPS, a $200-$400 digital camera, a $50-$150 cell phone, a $50-$150 PDA. Some keep a laptop in their car. $800+.

 

I say go for it. I had envisioned that you place the first DVD near the parking stage so the cachers can watch the DVD in their car, return the DVD, lock up their portable DVD player and then begin the adventure.

 

However, you're talking about a DVD at each stage. I think the poster who warned about maintenance night mares is spot on. From what I've seen cachers are hard on caches. But, it will be your baby. If you're cool with

 

"DVD #4 won't play...", "Final DVD is missing last cachers must have forgotten to remove from their machine..." "DVD #2 is cracked and won't play..." etc.

 

then by all means do it. The Big Foot legends fascinate me and I'm betting most cachers as well.

 

Bang on Dew. Last time I checked, a portable DVD player at Circuit City was under $100. COmpared to my GPSr that's cheap.

 

I would be ALL OVER this cache. Sounds like a creative idea and a fun way to spend a misty December evening.

[+SMN703]

 

I will provide a cache that will be rememberable, one that finders will talk about when they reflect on their best caching moments. If only 10 people find it in it's life then so be it. This cache is not about numbers and more about an exhilirating experience.

 

If this is how you feel then why post asking if we'd look for it.

 

SOMEONE would, and if it's only 10 people I wonder if those 10 people would really be on here to reply.

 

Set it up and post it and see who shows up.

 

(It sounds like a re-enactment of Blair Witch Project to me)

[+Elde]

I wanted to do a quick edit using some shots of potential filming areas and test footage to give you all an idea of the feel of the movie.

 

The movie will be a fuzzy and/or poorly focused clone of the Blair Witch Project and consist mostly of text and credits?

[Ruslt]

You can solve the DVD player problem by making a dozen or so copies of the dvd that cachers can take back home and watch. Then after watching when they return to start the cache hunting or after finding the cache put the dvd back in the starting cache location. the idea sounds very fun. I dont know if you will get to many people in the woods at night.

I think most would want to hunt it during the day. It may make it more enjoyable to search during the day.

[+scorpionkill]

I wanted to do a quick edit using some shots of potential filming areas and test footage to give you all an idea of the feel of the movie.

 

The movie will be a fuzzy and/or poorly focused clone of the Blair Witch Project and consist mostly of text and credits?

 

First of all tweedle Dee (whom you look like) that was a quick youtube upload and if you knew anything you would understand that the quality you are viewing is not what the fully rendered dvd version will be like. As there has not been any footage shot minus a few test shots, a fact I already mentioned, the clip you saw was test frames. So before you continue to criticize me from you soap box you should learn about how you make a movie you jackass.

 

Glad you won't seek this cache. Stick to your film canister traditionals....loser.

[+scorpionkill]

 

I will provide a cache that will be rememberable, one that finders will talk about when they reflect on their best caching moments. If only 10 people find it in it's life then so be it. This cache is not about numbers and more about an exhilirating experience.

 

If this is how you feel then why post asking if we'd look for it.

 

SOMEONE would, and if it's only 10 people I wonder if those 10 people would really be on here to reply.

 

Set it up and post it and see who shows up.

 

(It sounds like a re-enactment of Blair Witch Project to me)

 

while similar to the BW it will be a story on it's own. Now I know how the directors of BW felt when people said. Sounds like a re-enactment of the last broadcast.

[+Elde]

First of all tweedle Dee (whom you look like) that was a quick youtube upload and if you knew anything you would understand that the quality you are viewing is not what the fully rendered dvd version will be like.

 

You may dispense with the personal attacks and name calling.

 

I will also point out that this is what I meant by education and experience - if you cannot handle the mild criticism in this thread to date, what are you going to do when it shows up in your logs? And on such a complicated cache it will show up.

 

As there has not been any footage shot minus a few test shots, a fact I already mentioned, the clip you saw was test frames.

 

You specifically stated that the video would "give you all an idea of the feel of the movie" - and I took you at your word. If you did not intend for the video to be viewed as an exemplar of the style of the finished movie, you should have not specifically stated that you intended for it to be seen as such.

 

Keep this in mind when you write your cache pages.

[+scorpionkill]

First of all tweedle Dee (whom you look like) that was a quick youtube upload and if you knew anything you would understand that the quality you are viewing is not what the fully rendered dvd version will be like.

 

You may dispense with the personal attacks and name calling.

 

I will also point out that this is what I meant by education and experience - if you cannot handle the mild criticism in this thread to date, what are you going to do when it shows up in your logs? And on such a complicated cache it will show up.

 

As there has not been any footage shot minus a few test shots, a fact I already mentioned, the clip you saw was test frames.

 

You specifically stated that the video would "give you all an idea of the feel of the movie" - and I took you at your word. If you did not intend for the video to be viewed as an exemplar of the style of the finished movie, you should have not specifically stated that you intended for it to be seen as such.

 

Keep this in mind when you write your cache pages.

 

Idea of the feel, not here is the movie. I have taken everyones criticizm well except yours sice all you seem to do is offer nothing but criticizim. Shouldn't you have experience in something before you criticize sice you seem to not posses the technical knowledge of how a movie is made. I find it funny how someone with such little experience himself contines to harp on experience. Let's look at the caches you have placed shall we?

 

This movie will be recorded in 1080i HD so it will be anything but blurry and out of focus. True some creative enhancement will be done to set a mood . Since you don't live local to this cache and don't plan to seek it why don't you go find another thread and offer your 2 cents. Seems to me you get your kicks off of being a troll.

[+Elde]

Idea of the feel, not here is the movie.

 

And the feel of the movie is what I adressed - as demonstrated it does not have a feel. It's just text and fuzzy images.

 

I have taken everyones criticizm well except yours sice all you seem to do is offer nothing but criticizim.

 

Now thats a nonsensical statement - "I'll take criticism, so long as you don't actually criticize".

 

This movie will be recorded in 1080i HD so it will be anything but blurry and out of focus.

 

Then why are the majority of the images given as demonstration of the feel blurry and out of focus? YouTube videos need not be so. Quickly made videos need not be so. I can (and have) made clearer videos with my (low end) camera and no processing at all.

 

Since you don't live local to this cache and don't plan to seek it why don't you go find another thread and offer your 2 cents.

 

If you don't want replies that you might not like, don't post. Once you release a post 'into the wild', you no longer control what happens to it.

[+scorpionkill]

Idea of the feel, not here is the movie.

 

And the feel of the movie is what I adressed - as demonstrated it does not have a feel. It's just text and fuzzy images.

 

I have taken everyones criticizm well except yours sice all you seem to do is offer nothing but criticizim.

 

Now thats a nonsensical statement - "I'll take criticism, so long as you don't actually criticize".

 

Ah no, You don't get it. Someone bring up a valid point and I except it well. I will consider the point and make adjustments as necessary. Again, you stated planely that you would not seek this cache. That is fine with me. You gave me your reason and I moved on. But you feel the need to continually bash what I have said or plan on doing despite hearing my accomodations to peoples concerns.

 

Honestly I think it is out of fear and that is OK. Some people are scared of the woods at night. Wouldn't suprise me if you still sleep with a night light and or your teddy.

 

This movie will be recorded in 1080i HD so it will be anything but blurry and out of focus.

 

Then why are the majority of the images given as demonstration of the feel blurry and out of focus? YouTube videos need not be so. Quickly made videos need not be so. I can (and have) made clearer videos with my (low end) camera and no processing at all.

 

OK Mr. Spielberg. Have you ever watched a horror movie or for that matter have you actually ever seen the Blair Witch Project? My money is that you haven't. Well that movie was either blury, dark or shakey and it made MILLIONS of dollars. See trailer here

. Hmm seems to me the trailer is blury, dark, shakey and full of text and that was after the movie was shot.

 

I could give example after example of movies that were blured, shakey...etc.

 

The word is rendered and I would wipe the floor with you in making movies.

 

So you obviously have zero expertice in this area so please stick to what you do know.

 

Since you don't live local to this cache and don't plan to seek it why don't you go find another thread and offer your 2 cents.

 

If you don't want replies that you might not like, don't post. Once you release a post 'into the wild', you no longer control what happens to it.

 

Dude. Again. You don't plan to seek this cache so move on. Hit the bricks. Find some other thread.

[+Kealia]

geocaching isn't exactly rocket science.

 

Amen. I agree that you don't have to be a genius to palce a cache and it certainly seems that the OP has a good idea of what he thinks make s a good cache. He's also explained that he plans on doing maintenance often, etc. etc.

 

I say go for it. If I lived nearby I'd go for the FTF for sure. Will it have some kinks to work out? Probably - a lot of caches do. That's part of the evolution.

 

I've always said that everybody doesn't have the RIGHT to find every cache. If you have a DVD player and want to do this one, do it. If not, move on.

 

Personally, I'm sick of park-and-grab caches (not that I do many of them) so I'm glad to see somebody pushing the envelope here - it sounds great to me.

 

I have an 8 stage multi that most people would tell me today NOT to place because people won't spend the time on it. The logs on that cache make me want to place another one.

 

Two pieces of advice:

1) Work with your local reviewer NOW to make sure you don't into any issues

2) Stop the personal attacks (calling people loser's, etc.). If they don't agree, so be it. The only thing you will accomplish is to either get suspended from posting, or have this thread locked by a moderator

[+scorpionkill]

geocaching isn't exactly rocket science.

 

2) Stop the personal attacks (calling people loser's, etc.). If they don't agree, so be it. The only thing you will accomplish is to either get suspended from posting, or have this thread locked by a moderator

 

Yeah. I just got so heated that I lost it. I find it ironic that somone stresses having experience in a subject and then criticizes something they have no experience in (the movie).

 

This seemed pretty simple to me. You would either seek it or not.

[+Kealia]

I would.

[+sseegars]

Me and a friend once went on a weekend roadtrip for the APE cache in MD. Why? Cause we wanted that icon and to find a legendary cache.

 

You know what? The cache was ok, it was the roadtrip that was the fun part.

 

Hide your cache! Some of us are crazy enough to go for anything. If I ever make that next roadtrip your way I will definitely be buying the portable DVD player and doing this cache.

 

Don't let anyone squash your creativity. I like doing caches that are creative like this. I don't care if you've hid 1 or 1000 or 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000.

 

DOC

[+scorpionkill]

Update: This past weekend we scouted locations for filming as well as the cache itself. We recreated a trashed camp site scene and took photos and video for the web and the movie. Filming should begin next weekend as long as the camera crane arrives on time.

 

Hopefully we get a variety of weather conditions to convey different times, different dates. Still have quite a bit of pre-production stuff to finish but things are on schedule.

[+Lady Loki]

I don't know if this is something that might enhance things, but since you have a story to go along with this, have you considered putting this up as an ARG (alternate reality game)? It sounds like you've got pretty much everything required for a small one, and it'd get the word out to more people.

 

More info here: http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/ if you're interested. Just a thought. And yeah, I'd hunt it, if I could.