Potential bad news for those of us using IndyJpr's topo maps

[toddm]

I just downloaded the new version of garmin's training center for windows, released april 9.

 

It may be a software bug, but when I installed it and tried to start the program it told me there was an error with the UtTopo install and I should try reinstalling it. So I removed it and reinstalled the utah topo maps, I tried to restart training center and got the same error. I got the same errors for all of the other IndyJpr maps I had installed as well.

 

Random issue.....or garmin trying to make sure people have to buy their map products.....which is amusing since garmin has no map product to compete with 1:24000 scale topos. I had no issues with the older version using those maps.

 

Todd

Edited April 17, 2008 by toddm

[+IndyJpr]

Hi Todd,

 

That's seems odd. If you don't mind could you export your registry entires for MapSource and send them to me?

 

Here's how to do that:

 

- run regedit (from a command prompt or Start -> Run)

- navigate to: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Garmin\MapSource

- right click on MapSource and select Export

- save as a .reg file

- send me the file

 

Do you use any other custom maps and if so any issues with those?

 

Thanks for the information,

[+IndyJpr]

Questions about TC:

 

I assume that TC is just a special version of MapSource. Is this true? Can it be installed in parallel with MapSource?

 

Thanks,

[+XopherN71]

Also, try downloading the MapSource updater and running it - it will turn your training center MapSource into the full version.

 

Just something to try I guess.

[yogazoo]

I suspect that the TC is just a scaled down version of mapsource. IndyJpr's maps load fine with any version of MapSource available. I would also like to point out that Indy's maps are just like any other custom maps out there in regards to how mapsource see's them. If IndyJpr's maps won't work then NONE of the custom maps will. I doubt however that this problem will manifest itself in anything other than Training Center (TC).

Edited April 17, 2008 by yogazoo

[toddm]

Yes the custom maps work fine in the current version of mapsource, however, for those wanting to use their Edge or Forerunner training data etc. it may be an issue as the new version of training center won't even start when those maps are installed on the computer, as training center automatically looks for them. This would mean that users of custom maps could not use training center at all.

 

Training center can be used parallel to mapsource, and for the most part Training center uses the installed maps to show rides/tracks etc. Not for downloading maps to the unit etc.

 

As I said the old version of training center I had, and current mapsource version have no problems using and running with the custom maps.

 

I will in fact be going back to the older training center version, and see if that works with the custom maps. Hopefully this is just an odd glitch and not something we are going to see in other new product updates like mapsource etc.

[-Oz-]

I would say that installing the mapsource update is probably a good call.

 

Indyjpr, let me know if you find a problem.

[toddm]

Ran the mapsource update, no change, mapsource did and still works fine with the maps, training center will will not run, giving errors on all custom maps until they are uninstalled from the computer.

[+IndyJpr]

I installed TC and took a quick look. It also died on a custom map (not one of mine). I used Process Monitor to get an idea of what was going on. It starts up, reads all of the MapSource registry information and then starts reading the index (tdb) file of every map installed. It's when it gets to an index (tdb) of a custom map that it aborts...

 

I'm going to post a message over on the Yahoo GPS Maps forum to see if anyone knows anything...

[-Oz-]

Wow, let me know what comes of this.

[yogazoo]

Using TC version 3.4.1 I have loaded custom maps and the TC program works fine in conjunction with them. Doesn't appear to be an issue on my computer. What version of TC are you guys running? If its older try running webupdater or downloading TC again and re-installing it.

 

Edited April 26, 2008 by yogazoo

[yogazoo]

Sorry about the large picture.

 

The difference may be that I only have TC loaded on this computer and NO MapSource versions. Hmmmm.

[yogazoo]

UPDATE:

 

Both MapSource and Training Center installed now and they both work fine with the custom maps.

[toddm]

Interesting, I uninstalled and reinstalled both mapsource and TC and had the same problem again. TC still pukes when loading when any custom maps are installed.

[+IndyJpr]

What version of TC are you guys running?

That's the version I tried...didn't work. Strange...

[MtnHermit]

I just this morning downloaded both Training Center and Mapsource update. Installed both on a fresh XP SP2 install, no problems installing a mapset.

 

FWIW