+The Leprechauns Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 My daughter was *thrilled* to see her new maps, showing her fun spring break roadtrip where she added finds in six new states. THANK YOU for working on the weekend so I could share that fun with my team mate. Quote Link to comment
+mtn-man Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 I am very happy to see the site back up again! Very nice. I noticed one thing when I just uploaded my file though. Some of my finds are not being included (only 2,266 of 2,277 finds). I verified with GSAK that they are all in the GPX file sent. I noticed it because Kansas went from two finds to one find suddenly. I did see that one cache was archived there this week, but archived caches should not be an issue. GC3DD4 was archived and must not be counted. GC4185 is still active and probably is the one counted. I can also see one cache lost in AZ, CA, FL, TX, WA. The rest were either GA or VA since I have logged a bunch of caches in both states since my last PQ. I've found so many caches in the other five states that it isn't as easy to spot which cache is missing for each. I could drill down later to see if I can figure it out if needed. Just thought I would mention it. In any case, thanks for sticking with it and I hope you can work out the glitch. Quote Link to comment
+beejay&esskay Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 (edited) You should be able to tell which one is missing in Kansas by looking at the county breakdown. Do you have any caches listed on the county breakdown as not yet having the county determined? I had a number of them (including at least one which had been determined previously) and I think the number of them matched the missing counts in my total. And I'm currently getting this message when trying to access the site: 500:Internal Server Error Something's not quite right. Not sure what yet, but check back here in a little bit and I'm sure everything will be all hunky-dory again! Edited April 14, 2008 by beejay&esskay Quote Link to comment
+TheAlabamaRambler Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 <---- doing a little dance.... Yay! The site is back up and runnin'!! 500:Internal Server ErrorSomething's not quite right. Not sure what yet, but check back here in a little bit and I'm sure everything will be all hunky-dory again! Not yet! Soon I suspect. Quote Link to comment
+mtn-man Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 The site was up. I uploaded my query. Hmmm. The Leprechauns uploaded his daughter's before I uploaded mine. Hmmmm. Lep, did you break the site again? beejay&esskay, I am pretty sure they were both in the same county. They were only a couple of miles apart. The only thing I saw that got me wondering was the recent archival of the one cache. Maybe I broke the site again? Na, not with my measly find count. Quote Link to comment
+beejay&esskay Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 I am pretty sure they were both in the same county. Even with that you can tell which county is included by clicking on the county to see the detail. Quote Link to comment
+wandering4cache Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 (edited) Yeah, our stats are back. I just uploaded file I pulled on 4/10. However, its off by 2. We haven't cached since 4/10 and all caches were logged before pulling PQ. Also notice it says we've attended 1 CITO, but we haven't. And in the bottom chart, the green line isn't as steep as it used to be. Meaning our dot is alot closer to the green line than it ever was. lol I have no idea what 2 caches are missing. I just noticed it. Caching milestones are off also. Wrong caches & wrong dates. I also confirmed the PQ had the right number in it when opened in GSAK. Edited April 14, 2008 by wandering4cache Quote Link to comment
+beejay&esskay Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 (edited) My count is off by 6. I'm going to spend a little time looking for it, but suspect Dave will find the issue easier. (I found one missing. GCTHHJ Just a Martinsburg Cemetery in Knox County Ohio. Nothing special about it. Not archived. Not near the county line. Not a recent find.) Edited April 14, 2008 by beejay&esskay Quote Link to comment
+TheAlabamaRambler Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 (edited) Worked for me now. Love those numbers! 332 days with a find, so I have spent almost a year actually caching! 85,272.84 cache-to-cache miles... at ~15mpg I hope my wife never sees that stat! Edited April 14, 2008 by TheAlabamaRambler Quote Link to comment
+DudleyGrunt Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 Cool! And the best thing is that I can know get to it from my office pc (off the clock, of course), which I never used to be able to do. Quote Link to comment
+The Cheeseheads Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 Something changed somewhere. I'm missing a couple of finds as well. I've been looking through my own GPX file as well as the database entries, and so far I haven't been able to pinpoint anything obvious, except that the parser is just completely passing over the missing caches. I put a bit of code in the page to just halt everything when it encounters a problem cache and display all the current variables, but it never gets triggered. /scratches head Quote Link to comment
+beejay&esskay Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 As I posted over on your site, let me know if there is any additional information I can give you that would be helpful. (Missing 6 finds). Quote Link to comment
+ncfinn Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 It is missing about 10 of my caches in 2 states. On the other hand, 2 Virginia caches are now placed in Montana and California. So I guess at the end I'm even with the # states cached. Quote Link to comment
+OReviewer Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 Well, I see one issue... I have 11 caches under the "Uncalculated Caches" that have bad link... example: RHG 15k 1800 It should be: RHG 15k 1800 Quote Link to comment
+OReviewer Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 And these 11 caches might be the exact number of caches I'm missing... Quote Link to comment
+webscouter. Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 Don't know if it helps but the Cache across America Kansas cache isn't filling in the map for the CAA stats. Quote Link to comment
+wandering4cache Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 I want to help figure out which 2 of our caches are missing. How are you figuring this out? Quote Link to comment
+TheAlabamaRambler Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 Is it just me or does anyone else see humor in folks scouring the numbers for inaccuracy on a site called It's Not About The Numbers? Quote Link to comment
+beejay&esskay Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 Is it just me or does anyone else see humor in folks scouring the numbers for inaccuracy on a site called It's Not About The Numbers? I had the hardest time remembering the URL for the site. I keep thinking ItsAllAboutTheNumbers. Quote Link to comment
+beejay&esskay Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 I want to help figure out which 2 of our caches are missing. How are you figuring this out? Well, I found the first one by luck. I have found caches in every Ohio county but when I looked at the Ohio map, Knox County wasn't filled in. I haven't looked seriously beyond that. If I were going to do that, I'd have to use GSAK. From GSAK, I know the errors for me involve Indiana and Ohio. I also have the county filled in for every cache so I can further subdivide the states by county and compare those counts to INATN. I think Dave will figure this out without additional help, but if he needed to know what was missing for me, I'd start down the list of Ohio and Indiana counties, comparing his count to GSAK. Once I knew the county, I could look at his detailed list vs mine. Quote Link to comment
+GrnXnham Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 Same problem here. 2555 finds but INATN only shows that we have 2549 finds. Six finds disappeared. Quote Link to comment
+wandering4cache Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 I want to help figure out which 2 of our caches are missing. How are you figuring this out? Well, I found the first one by luck. I have found caches in every Ohio county but when I looked at the Ohio map, Knox County wasn't filled in. I haven't looked seriously beyond that. If I were going to do that, I'd have to use GSAK. From GSAK, I know the errors for me involve Indiana and Ohio. I also have the county filled in for every cache so I can further subdivide the states by county and compare those counts to INATN. I think Dave will figure this out without additional help, but if he needed to know what was missing for me, I'd start down the list of Ohio and Indiana counties, comparing his count to GSAK. Once I knew the county, I could look at his detailed list vs mine. OK, might not be anything i can really figure out then since most of ours are near home with the exception of the ones hubby finds while on business travel or the few away weekends we've done. I'll take a peak at those just incase. Quote Link to comment
+wandering4cache Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 (edited) Is it just me or does anyone else see humor in folks scouring the numbers for inaccuracy on a site called It's Not About The Numbers? I'm not ALL about the numbers, but our numbers have become more important to me lately. More so because we are FINALLY near 500. Took way too long. Work got in the way. I actually like the pretty colors on the map more. Edited April 15, 2008 by wandering4cache Quote Link to comment
+Monkeybrad Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 (edited) I just uploaded mine and found that the INATN number is off by 33 from the GC.com number. Not a big deal, I am just curious to see what the issue is. It is cool to look at the various statistics, but if you know that your input is flawed it makes looking at the resulting info kinda pointless. Edit to add: I just checked and all of the caches are in the gpx file, so it is something happening on the INATN end. Edited April 15, 2008 by Monkeybrad Quote Link to comment
+TotemLake Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 Is it just me or does anyone else see humor in folks scouring the numbers for inaccuracy on a site called It's Not About The Numbers? Sounds like the perfect definition to irony. Quote Link to comment
+Thunderbolt and Lightfoot Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 well, just to add a ray of hope for those that are stressing. My finds were off by 2 as of my last PQ. So today i ran my latest as this is the first day that i could in a week, and all was fine with it, and all of em showed up correct and total on INATN. Rock on Quote Link to comment
+beejay&esskay Posted April 16, 2008 Share Posted April 16, 2008 Dave stopped uploads while he tries to figure out why some caches that used to process no longer do. (I edited the PQ file to change a state ID ... and the upload dropped out 2 additional caches.) Quote Link to comment
+gulo Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 now this is completely off topic but I wish that county maps used more colors (maybe green or yellow) instead of 4 shades of blue. That often makes it difficult to say what number you're looking at, especially for smaller counties Quote Link to comment
+The Cheeseheads Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 Okay... I think it's working again. I did a little mucking about, and I think it might have had something to do with HTML entities (such as ampersands) in the cache names. I was already handling those, but apparently something changed, either with how the GPX files were being created or with the new server’s PHP configuration so that they were no longer being handled correctly. I just uploaded the My Finds query for myself that I generated today, and it now shows the correct number of finds for me. Please let me know via email if it doesn’t do so for you. I mentioned in a previous post that I updated the code to handle the GPS Adventures Exhibit and Wherigo caches. If you’ve got either of those in your finds, but they don’t seem to be showing up properly, please drop me an email. I’m not lucky enough to have gotten my hands on a Colorado (Anyone from Garmin reading this? ), so I don’t have any Wherigo caches to my name, so I don’t actually know what they look like in the My Finds query. Hopefully I’m handling those correctly. Finally... I'd like to give a big thank you to Groundspeak for stepping up and volunteering to help pay for the new INATN server. They contacted me out of the blue and offered assistance which I was glad to accept. GS isn't actually hosting the server themselves, so before you ask, no I haven't been given direct access to the mother database. Apparently my little ol' website is an "asset to the geocaching community", and judging by some of the emails I got when it went down the first time, a lot of you have come to find it useful as well. So, thanks to Groundspeak for their server support, thanks to those of you who have clicked on the Paypal button and donated to the site (Groundspeak isn't paying me to work on it; I'm still doing that for free!) and thanks to those of you who have sent me emails and PMs to let me know that you missed the site and that you find my little project helpful in your geocaching adventures! Quote Link to comment
+TotemLake Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 Now there's a great message of collaboration that's been missing for a long time. Quote Link to comment
+TheAlabamaRambler Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 Thank you Groundspeak! That was yet another great act of kindness and generosity. Thank you Dave! Even though it's not about the numbers, we DO love looking at our numbers! Great kindness and generosity on your part to make all of this work for us. Geocachers rock! Quote Link to comment
+Lil Devil Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 Kudos to Dave and Groundspeak! Quote Link to comment
+beejay&esskay Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 Glad to see Groundspeak supporting INATN. INATN has changed the way I geocache on long trips. I now try to find a cache in every county I pass through. And I drive where I might have flown in the past. Quote Link to comment
+mtn-man Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 Apparently my little ol' website is an "asset to the geocaching community" Oh most certainly. Outstanding work. The best by far. Here here, Lil Devil. Kudos indeed to Dave and Groundspeak! Quote Link to comment
+wandering4cache Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 Yeah!!!! I was having withdrawals. Kudos Dave & Groundspeak. Quote Link to comment
+Kealia Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 Let me pile on with my "great job guys". I hope the people that continue to gripe that "Groundspeak doesn't listen to what people want" blah blah blah catch wind of this. Thanks for all the hard work you do to keep the site running - and hats off to GS for stepping in to help where they saw the need to help the community. Hoo-rah! Quote Link to comment
+marc_54140 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 A big Thank You to Groundspeak for helping in getting this wonderful site back up and running! http://www.itsnotaboutthenumbers.com/ Quote Link to comment
+Prime Suspect Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 BUT THEY STILL HATE CHINLDREN! Quote Link to comment
+mtn-man Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 I did some topic mergeination and combined the new INATN topic into the old one that was just near the top of page 2. I merged in the last three post above mine. I need to grab a new PQ to update after the bug fix. Thanks Dave! Quote Link to comment
+Moose Mob Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 Yeah! PQ upload in process. Quote Link to comment
+FamilyDNA Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 I uploaded mine last night. The find count is now correct, but for some reason I now have a find in Ohio. (I have never cached in Ohio.) It's one I found back on '06, and no, it's not a traveling cache. Quote Link to comment
+WeatherednBoston Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 It's nice to see that Groundspeak has helped your site. I used to use it all the time... The fact that you offer your services and site for free is why I think they helped. You stepped up and did alot of work for the benefit of other geocachers like yourself...without the profit mind set. Just one cacher helping LOTS of cachers...and you were rewarded. Good Job and great decision Groundspeak! Quote Link to comment
+Rick618 Posted April 24, 2008 Author Share Posted April 24, 2008 Thanks to Dave for getting it going and to GC for helping out too! Quote Link to comment
+mizdeeds Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 Thank you! I may not use it as often as some others, but I love INATN! Quote Link to comment
+PinkDolphin Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 I uploaded mine last night. The find count is now correct, but for some reason I now have a find in Ohio. (I have never cached in Ohio.) It's one I found back on '06, and no, it's not a traveling cache. Me too, sort of. I did an upload earlier today and I have 3 caches in New Hampshire, I have never even been to New Hampshire let alone cached there. All 3 of those were caches found last Labor Day Weekend in Virginia. I also have a cache in Washington State, which is a cache I found here in NC and is still in NC. Not too concerned, but just thought I would throw that out, I am sure it will get sorted out. PinkD Quote Link to comment
+combatnurse2003 Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 Is there a possibility of www.geocaching.com doing this? I'm sure they have the server capacity. It's loved by most geocachers. Even if they have to charge an extra 1 or 2 bucks to members, I'd gladly pay it. Maybe make it available to members/ subscribers? Another way to enhance premium membership. They might even pay you to be able to get the rights to it... My $0.02. -Mike Quote Link to comment
+Cardinal Red Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 Is there a possibility of www.geocaching.com doing this? I'm sure they have the server capacity. It's loved by most geocachers. Even if they have to charge an extra 1 or 2 bucks to members, I'd gladly pay it. Maybe make it available to members/ subscribers? Another way to enhance premium membership. They might even pay you to be able to get the rights to it... My $0.02. -Mike I don't mind Jeremy using your $30 to help out, and you should contribute more directly if you feel it's that important. Personally, INATN isn't worth 2 cents to me. There are things over here (that I do care about), that still need fixing. Jeremy needs to take care of business over here. Let Dave do the same over there. Quote Link to comment
jholly Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 Is there a possibility of www.geocaching.com doing this? I'm sure they have the server capacity. It's loved by most geocachers. Even if they have to charge an extra 1 or 2 bucks to members, I'd gladly pay it. Maybe make it available to members/ subscribers? Another way to enhance premium membership. They might even pay you to be able to get the rights to it... My $0.02. -Mike I don't mind Jeremy using your $30 to help out, and you should contribute more directly if you feel it's that important. Personally, INATN isn't worth 2 cents to me. There are things over here (that I do care about), that still need fixing. Jeremy needs to take care of business over here. Let Dave do the same over there. Unfortunately Jeremy has already used your $30 and my $30 to support INATN. I used it a couple times to generate a state county map, but now use GSAK macros to accomplish that. I no longer have a need for INATN, but I guess I still have to support it. It's like income tax, you support things you would chose not to. Jim Quote Link to comment
+WebChimp Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 (edited) I don't mind Jeremy using your $30 to help out, and you should contribute more directly if you feel it's that important. Personally, INATN isn't worth 2 cents to me. There are things over here (that I do care about), that still need fixing. Jeremy needs to take care of business over here. Let Dave do the same over there. Once you pay your bill, it's no longer your money, it's their money. What they do with it is up to them, and them alone. Edited July 11, 2008 by WebChimp Quote Link to comment
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