+ibycus Posted August 11, 2008 Author Posted August 11, 2008 Strange, but I clicked the link, then run, it was downloading for about 35 minutes or so, appeared to finish as the dialogue box closed, and then nothing happened after that. Do I need to un-install the old version first? Shouldn't have to. Did it not go through an install proceedure? Dale Quote
Abandonhope16 Posted August 11, 2008 Posted August 11, 2008 I wasnt watching it the whole time, but the dialogue box was up for about 35 minutes (showing the amount dowloaded/time, etc). The I get the box (I think its a Windows thing), saying the that the publisher cant be identified, blah, blah; do I trust it, I click run. After that, nothing happened. I believe in the 1.4 version, this was the point that I got the install wizard. I'll have to try it again tonight. Quote
ryleyinstl Posted August 11, 2008 Posted August 11, 2008 Not sure if this is indicative of the data errors you were talking about. New in v2, some water bodies around the St. Louis region seem to be partly missing the blue infill. Mississippi River, Missouri River, Horseshoe Lake…..in some cases it looks like the problem is following the city/county boundaries. Quote
+ibycus Posted August 11, 2008 Author Posted August 11, 2008 Not sure if this is indicative of the data errors you were talking about. New in v2, some water bodies around the St. Louis region seem to be partly missing the blue infill. Mississippi River, Missouri River, Horseshoe Lake…..in some cases it looks like the problem is following the city/county boundaries. I take it that infill was there in 1.4? Thanks for letting me know. I'll keep an eye out and see if I can see some comonalities. Quote
+ibycus Posted August 11, 2008 Author Posted August 11, 2008 I wasnt watching it the whole time, but the dialogue box was up for about 35 minutes (showing the amount dowloaded/time, etc). The I get the box (I think its a Windows thing), saying the that the publisher cant be identified, blah, blah; do I trust it, I click run. After that, nothing happened. I believe in the 1.4 version, this was the point that I got the install wizard. I'll have to try it again tonight. Yeah, this is where the install wizard should pop up. How big (exactly) is your download? It should be 920,140,297 bytes. I can calculate an MD5 sum if that helps anyone. Quote
ryleyinstl Posted August 11, 2008 Posted August 11, 2008 I take it that infill was there in 1.4? Thanks for letting me know. I'll keep an eye out and see if I can see some comonalities. Yep, infill was there in v1.4 Also noticed that the great lakes are empty as well. Quote
+geo_barbie Posted August 11, 2008 Posted August 11, 2008 Awesome maps! Thank you! You must devote an immense amount of time into this project. I also noticed that a section of Wisconsin is missing, around N44 32.082, W91 16.147. Also, there is a problem with missing data in Wisconsin near Door county around N45 05.716, W87 11.539. The upper peninsula of Michigan and all of Minnesota is missing the lakes and streams data. All these were present in version 1.4. I also noticed that the Wisconsin lakes and streams are mostly missing, but that was also missing in 1.4. Quote
Abandonhope16 Posted August 11, 2008 Posted August 11, 2008 Trying the download again. Dialogue box indicates that its downloading 877MB. Quote
+ibycus Posted August 11, 2008 Author Posted August 11, 2008 Trying the download again. Dialogue box indicates that its downloading 877MB. 877MB ~ 919601152 bytes (recall 1MB = 1024 x 1024 bytes) Quote
lookn4somthn Posted August 11, 2008 Posted August 11, 2008 (edited) Awesome maps! Thank you! You must devote an immense amount of time into this project. I also noticed that a section of Wisconsin is missing, around N44 32.082, W91 16.147. Also, there is a problem with missing data in Wisconsin near Door county around N45 05.716, W87 11.539. The upper peninsula of Michigan and all of Minnesota is missing the lakes and streams data. All these were present in version 1.4. I also noticed that the Wisconsin lakes and streams are mostly missing, but that was also missing in 1.4. Hats off to you Dale!! Thanks again. Download and install went perfect! I did notice some missing water colors as well though. I'll try to post. My example is the Seattle area, specifically Lake Washington map 30122047.img 1.4 version 2.0 version screenshot of 2.0 from Mapsource I can live without the water issues!! I like how you did the detail levels this time as well. Drive test to follow tonight on my drive home from work!! Woot, Woot!! Edited August 11, 2008 by lookn4somthn Quote
-Oz- Posted August 11, 2008 Posted August 11, 2008 I bet this water stuff is the errors you were talking you saw from cgpsmapper. Quote
+ibycus Posted August 11, 2008 Author Posted August 11, 2008 I bet this water stuff is the errors you were talking you saw from cgpsmapper. Very interesting. I'm going to e-mail Stan and see what kind of errors will generate the message I was seeing. (going to be hard to go through the file manually, and GPSMapEdit renders the source properly) So far its all polygons correct? Dale Quote
Abandonhope16 Posted August 12, 2008 Posted August 12, 2008 Did the dowload, but now the areas it selects are huge; several counties instead of just the one I want. Quote
+ibycus Posted August 12, 2008 Author Posted August 12, 2008 Did the dowload, but now the areas it selects are huge; several counties instead of just the one I want. This is as expected. It was done for a few reasons. First and foremost, it was the easiest way to fix the 'unselectable county' problem. The problem stemmed mostly from the fact that some of the counties were defined by multiple polygons. In that case, only the first polygon was used to define the border, which created the problem. (the alternative solution would have been to try to work out how to automatically create a bounding polygon for the county) Another advantage of doing it like this, is that it reduces the number of tiles. In theory, one could load the entire country to a GPS with enough storage space (before this wasn't possible) Yet another advantage is that it makes it *much* more feasible to add topo data to the maps (the topo data is split by lat lons, not by county, so this means I can easily determine which tile to add the topo data to). Hope that explains the reasonsing behind the change. There shouldn't be more than 8 tiles that are too big to go on even the oldest mapping GPS, and the average tile size is only 1.7MB. Dale Quote
Abandonhope16 Posted August 12, 2008 Posted August 12, 2008 Before reading that I tried to re-install Mapsource. Now I get an error saying: There is a problem with the Product TigerData Installation. Any ideas of what I messed up? Quote
Abandonhope16 Posted August 12, 2008 Posted August 12, 2008 (edited) I think it was b/c I downloaded the new version from Garmin. I unistalled and re-installed the version that came with my GPS. So, if I understand correctly, rather than select counties, I need to select the tile that contains my county; which is 10.0mb? Sound right? Thanks again, I appreciate your patience. Edited August 12, 2008 by Abandonhope16 Quote
+ibycus Posted August 12, 2008 Author Posted August 12, 2008 I think it was b/c I downloaded the new version from Garmin. I unistalled and re-installed the version that came with my GPS. So, if I understand correctly, rather than select counties, I need to select the tile that contains my county; which is 10.0mb? Sound right? Thanks again, I appreciate your patience. Sounds like you happen to be in one of the 8 tiles that are over 8MB...I hope you're not using an old legend GPS. As far as the Mapsource error goes, its caused by the old version of the maps (1.4) there is a patch earlier in this thread (previous page I think). Just search for "Good news" and that should find it for you. Alternatively, you can just uninstall the old version. Dale Quote
+LightHouseSeekers Posted August 12, 2008 Posted August 12, 2008 Checking PA, I found this tile area would not select:N 40 06 thru N 41 00 by W 74 00 thru W 75 50. Roughly including counties of Berks, Bucks, Lehigh and Montgomery and cities of Philadelphia and Allentown. Quote
Abandonhope16 Posted August 12, 2008 Posted August 12, 2008 Sounds like you happen to be in one of the 8 tiles that are over 8MB...I hope you're not using an old legend GPS. As far as the Mapsource error goes, its caused by the old version of the maps (1.4) there is a patch earlier in this thread (previous page I think). Just search for "Good news" and that should find it for you. Alternatively, you can just uninstall the old version. Dale I have a Venture HC with 24MB, so I'm good. Since my older version of Mapsource works with the maps, is there any benefit/reason I want to upgrade the to newer version and use the patch? I'd like to keep the 1.4 version just in case I travel and only want to select a single county, since I don't have a huge amount of memory. Thanks again, I think this is a great thing you put together. Quote
Abandonhope16 Posted August 12, 2008 Posted August 12, 2008 (edited) Double post Edited August 12, 2008 by Abandonhope16 Quote
Abandonhope16 Posted August 12, 2008 Posted August 12, 2008 (edited) The elusive triple post. Whoopsie. Edited August 12, 2008 by Abandonhope16 Quote
lcrans Posted August 12, 2008 Posted August 12, 2008 Download and install of 2.0 went fine, however I also have the missing lake color problem....Echo Lake Montana at 48*7.68N 114*1.24W. Also, the nearby Echo Creek Road has correct alignment in City Navigator NT2008, but not in either version 1 or 2. Close but not correct. Thanks....... Quote
+trentseres Posted August 12, 2008 Posted August 12, 2008 question, an sorry if this is the wrong place. How can i uninstall TopoMaps and the whole NTDBData thing, as i am probably getting a new colorado tomorrow and Mapsource won't work. please, i apologize if all this had been said before, but i am very new and getting confuzzled :S Quote
+ibycus Posted August 12, 2008 Author Posted August 12, 2008 question, an sorry if this is the wrong place. How can i uninstall TopoMaps and the whole NTDBData thing, as i am probably getting a new colorado tomorrow and Mapsource won't work. please, i apologize if all this had been said before, but i am very new and getting confuzzled :S For the Canadian Maps? Not quite the right place, but that's OK. I take it you 'upgraded' mapsource to 6.14? The easiest fix is probably to just download and run the newest version of mapupdate, and then kill it before its finished. This will remove the registry entries associated with the old version which is screwing things up. (If you let it finish, you should have a fully functional mapsource along with the latest topomaps when its done regardless). If you're looking to clean things up, you can also delete the install directory once you've done this (\Program Files\TopoMaps by default). The URL for MapUpdate is http://www.ibycus.com/ibycustopo/download/MapUpdate.exe Dale Quote
+ibycus Posted August 12, 2008 Author Posted August 12, 2008 Sounds like you happen to be in one of the 8 tiles that are over 8MB...I hope you're not using an old legend GPS. As far as the Mapsource error goes, its caused by the old version of the maps (1.4) there is a patch earlier in this thread (previous page I think). Just search for "Good news" and that should find it for you. Alternatively, you can just uninstall the old version. Dale I have a Venture HC with 24MB, so I'm good. Since my older version of Mapsource works with the maps, is there any benefit/reason I want to upgrade the to newer version and use the patch? I'd like to keep the 1.4 version just in case I travel and only want to select a single county, since I don't have a huge amount of memory. Thanks again, I think this is a great thing you put together. No big differences at this point, if the older version is working OK for you, its probably the better option. Eventually I plan to add contours to this version though... Dale Quote
Gamma68 Posted August 12, 2008 Posted August 12, 2008 One more unselectable tile to add to the previous reports: N34 29 W110 58. Quote
+ibycus Posted August 12, 2008 Author Posted August 12, 2008 (edited) Thanks, although this is a different problem than the unselectable county problem. Rather this is a compilation error. I'll take a look at it, and see if I can figure out *why* it didn't compile. Is this an important tile for you? **edit Must have been something to do with running multiple threads. Compiled just fine this time. Edited August 12, 2008 by ibycus Quote
+coggins Posted August 13, 2008 Posted August 13, 2008 Hi Dale, I just did the OSX port and have to say that the new format looks pretty nice. Did see a bunch of "fill errors" with water features and land useage. San Fran looks weirder than usual: 5 mi with max detail has a missing shoreline for metro San Francisco. The shoreline will show at 3 mi with max detail, but it looks as if most of the bay is drained. Quote
+ibycus Posted August 14, 2008 Author Posted August 14, 2008 Going on vacation for about 10 days or so starting tomorrow, so I'll be away from this thread (and e-mail) for a while... Quote
-Oz- Posted August 16, 2008 Posted August 16, 2008 Although Dale is away I finally finished upload a Mac Version of Icycus USA 2.0 (927mb). Quote
+ibycus Posted August 22, 2008 Author Posted August 22, 2008 Although Dale is away I finally finished upload a Mac Version of Icycus USA 2.0 (927mb). Still away, but got to a hotel with internet access... do you still have your username/password for my server? how's your upload bandwidth? (if not very good, I could possibly set my server to download from your server, but I don't know if my provider will complain...) Dale Quote
+ABQSG Posted August 23, 2008 Posted August 23, 2008 Dale, thank you so much for taking on this project. Your maps have already kept my 11 month old daughter and I from having our vehicle locked in a trailhead overnight after we got off the trail looking for new geocaching areas. I absentmindedly forgot to mark the vehicle before I left and found myself running through strange neighborhoods in the dark before they locked the gates at 9 PM. Your street map was right on, so I identified the street I drove in on, followed it to the trailhead and made it out five minutes before they locked the gates! Without your map I would have been staring at blank space...Thank you! On another note, has anybody had problems with Macafee since downloading 14? I'm curious as to whether it is a result of this download or some other data malfunction. I'm having to "fix my protection" nearly every time I come back to my computer. Could be totally unrelated, but it stated right after I downloaded 14 so....thanks for any help yall can provide and thank you, Dale, for saving my butt from an a** chewing from the wife...! Quote
+MacFlash Posted August 23, 2008 Posted August 23, 2008 On another note, has anybody had problems with Macafee since downloading 14? I'm curious as to whether it is a result of this download or some other data malfunction. I'm having to "fix my protection" nearly every time I come back to my computer. Could be totally unrelated, but it stated right after I downloaded 14 so....thanks for any help yall can provide and thank you, Dale, for saving my butt from an a** chewing from the wife...! I've had that for a long time before version 14. Even though I get McAfee free with Comcast, I am thinking about switching to something else. Quote
+ydns Posted August 24, 2008 Posted August 24, 2008 Dale, I want to thank you for all your efforts in building and sharing these maps. The entire GPS community should be very appreciative of your efforts. It is not a trivial effort and I hope you are appropriately rewarded via your PayPal link. I wanted to request that you also provide the MD5 hash of the files you generate. As the files are quite large, this is a good way to know that the file was not corrupted on its way to us. In addition, it may allow us to use bittorrent to download the files. I have little trust in bittorrent without pre-published MD5 hashes from the "software provider". A bittorrent seed would relieve some of the bandwidth burden and spread it out among your appreciative users more. Give these some thought and again - thanks for your efforts! Scott Quote
+ibycus Posted August 24, 2008 Author Posted August 24, 2008 (edited) Dale, I want to thank you for all your efforts in building and sharing these maps. The entire GPS community should be very appreciative of your efforts. It is not a trivial effort and I hope you are appropriately rewarded via your PayPal link. I wanted to request that you also provide the MD5 hash of the files you generate. As the files are quite large, this is a good way to know that the file was not corrupted on its way to us. In addition, it may allow us to use bittorrent to download the files. I have little trust in bittorrent without pre-published MD5 hashes from the "software provider". A bittorrent seed would relieve some of the bandwidth burden and spread it out among your appreciative users more. Give these some thought and again - thanks for your efforts! Scott I'll try to remember to get it on the website some time later, but the MD5 hash is 9aa5f10d54ea0547bc9eeab015a91d51 *IbycusUSA20.exe The size is 920,140,297 bytes (generally corruption occurs in the form of truncation, so if its just that that you're worried about, this is a quick and dirty check). Dale **edit, miscopied file size Edited August 24, 2008 by ibycus Quote
+knottsav Posted August 25, 2008 Posted August 25, 2008 This is a terribly n00bish question I am afraid These maps are an absolute Godsend! For those on a limited budget, the price of maps for foreign countires is most often prohibitive. I am planning for a visit to the US on route to a humanitarian work in Europe. I was scouting for USA street maps and have installed the very detailed Ibycus USA set into MapSource. As it is not at this point autorouting or containing addresses, does this mean I cannot search the map sets? Not having a solid knowledge of US geography I am having a hard time finding places I need to visit. For instance, I am going to MI, and I can find the lake (as it is rather large) but not the town I am staying in. For that matter, I can't find Detroit either. Have I overlooked something simple? (it was rather late at night when I am looking at this) Or, do I simply need to know my way around more? I hope while in the US briefly, I might be able to find some caches also. Thanks in advance. Aaron p.s. here is a link to an opensource project that has provided great maps for my home country of New Zealand if anyone is ever visiting and needs accurate maps. NZ Open GPS Maps Quote
+ibycus Posted August 25, 2008 Author Posted August 25, 2008 This is a terribly n00bish question I am afraid These maps are an absolute Godsend! For those on a limited budget, the price of maps for foreign countires is most often prohibitive. I am planning for a visit to the US on route to a humanitarian work in Europe. I was scouting for USA street maps and have installed the very detailed Ibycus USA set into MapSource. As it is not at this point autorouting or containing addresses, does this mean I cannot search the map sets? Not having a solid knowledge of US geography I am having a hard time finding places I need to visit. For instance, I am going to MI, and I can find the lake (as it is rather large) but not the town I am staying in. For that matter, I can't find Detroit either. Have I overlooked something simple? (it was rather late at night when I am looking at this) Or, do I simply need to know my way around more? I hope while in the US briefly, I might be able to find some caches also. Thanks in advance. Aaron p.s. here is a link to an opensource project that has provided great maps for my home country of New Zealand if anyone is ever visiting and needs accurate maps. NZ Open GPS Maps Have you tried "Find-->Nearest Places". The POIs on the map are searchable, but the streets etc are not, so you should be able to use that to find where you're going. Another option is to use something like Google Earth to get Lat Lons, and then use the Lat/Lons to find the place on my maps. Dale Quote
+Berta Nick Zoey Posted August 25, 2008 Posted August 25, 2008 Dale, Im not sure if Im missing something or not. But Ive downloaded the file 3 times. The first time, I didnt notice and installer file. So, I downloaded it again. Same thing. The 3rd time I downloaded it, it was not the same 877 Meg file. was only 35+. Would it be possible for you to include in your signature, a link to the latest download. Searching though 100's of messages is difficult, and the Download I find may not be the latest release. Thanks Quote
+ibycus Posted August 26, 2008 Author Posted August 26, 2008 Dale, Im not sure if Im missing something or not. But Ive downloaded the file 3 times. The first time, I didnt notice and installer file. So, I downloaded it again. Same thing. The 3rd time I downloaded it, it was not the same 877 Meg file. was only 35+. Would it be possible for you to include in your signature, a link to the latest download. Searching though 100's of messages is difficult, and the Download I find may not be the latest release. Thanks I'll have to check with TPTB if this is acceptable, or if it smacks too much of an ad (as I do accept donations for them). The link for the USA maps is http://www.ibycus.com/ibycususa/ The Canadian maps can be downloaded from http://www.ibycus.com/ibycustopo/ I suggest using something like firefox to download the files, as it seems to handle the large downloads better than IE does. Quote
+O-Mega Posted August 26, 2008 Posted August 26, 2008 Download and install of 2.0 went fine, however I also have the missing lake color problem....Echo Lake Montana at 48*7.68N 114*1.24W. Also, the nearby Echo Creek Road has correct alignment in City Navigator NT2008, but not in either version 1 or 2. Close but not correct. Thanks....... Same here, no issues with the install. I like the larger segments, the entire country fits now. I did notice three "holes" that 1.4 didn't have, not sure if these are the same others have noticed or not. I also noticed the missing water data, and have discovered that the water doesn't start showing on version 1.4 until about 5 mile zoom and on 2.0 its .3 mile zoom. Not sure if the zoom level has anything to do with it but I figured I would mention it just in case. Quote
+ibycus Posted August 26, 2008 Author Posted August 26, 2008 Download and install of 2.0 went fine, however I also have the missing lake color problem....Echo Lake Montana at 48*7.68N 114*1.24W. Also, the nearby Echo Creek Road has correct alignment in City Navigator NT2008, but not in either version 1 or 2. Close but not correct. Thanks....... Same here, no issues with the install. I like the larger segments, the entire country fits now. I did notice three "holes" that 1.4 didn't have, not sure if these are the same others have noticed or not. I also noticed the missing water data, and have discovered that the water doesn't start showing on version 1.4 until about 5 mile zoom and on 2.0 its .3 mile zoom. Not sure if the zoom level has anything to do with it but I figured I would mention it just in case. I've filled in one or two of these holes. Couple of them are because of limitations in cGPSMapper (maximum 2GB of memory allocated to a segment, which means that it can't compile them). I could chop the tile smaller and recompile if these tiles are of particular importance to anyone. Dale Quote
+O-Mega Posted August 26, 2008 Posted August 26, 2008 Download and install of 2.0 went fine, however I also have the missing lake color problem....Echo Lake Montana at 48*7.68N 114*1.24W. Also, the nearby Echo Creek Road has correct alignment in City Navigator NT2008, but not in either version 1 or 2. Close but not correct. Thanks....... Same here, no issues with the install. I like the larger segments, the entire country fits now. I did notice three "holes" that 1.4 didn't have, not sure if these are the same others have noticed or not. I also noticed the missing water data, and have discovered that the water doesn't start showing on version 1.4 until about 5 mile zoom and on 2.0 its .3 mile zoom. Not sure if the zoom level has anything to do with it but I figured I would mention it just in case. I've filled in one or two of these holes. Couple of them are because of limitations in cGPSMapper (maximum 2GB of memory allocated to a segment, which means that it can't compile them). I could chop the tile smaller and recompile if these tiles are of particular importance to anyone. Dale I just loaded maps from 1.4 to fill the holes, I still had enough segments to load the entire country so that is no problem. But the water data would be something useful as there are many streams and lakes around here. For now I will use the 1.4 load which has all the TN data, but like I said; I like the larger segments in 2.0! Quote
+ibycus Posted August 26, 2008 Author Posted August 26, 2008 I just loaded maps from 1.4 to fill the holes, I still had enough segments to load the entire country so that is no problem. But the water data would be something useful as there are many streams and lakes around here. For now I will use the 1.4 load which has all the TN data, but like I said; I like the larger segments in 2.0! Haven't yet figured out exactly what is causing the problems with some of the water data (I assume you have *some* water data). I assume its some kind of data misformating on my part, but I haven't managed to track it down yet. (larger segments are definitely here to stay). Dale Quote
+O-Mega Posted August 26, 2008 Posted August 26, 2008 I just loaded maps from 1.4 to fill the holes, I still had enough segments to load the entire country so that is no problem. But the water data would be something useful as there are many streams and lakes around here. For now I will use the 1.4 load which has all the TN data, but like I said; I like the larger segments in 2.0! Haven't yet figured out exactly what is causing the problems with some of the water data (I assume you have *some* water data). I assume its some kind of data misformating on my part, but I haven't managed to track it down yet. (larger segments are definitely here to stay). Dale Yes, some water data and (at least in Land between the Lakes) it still has the polygons where the water should be. On one part (LBL Center N36 45.968 W88 02.093) it has half the water on the left side while on the other not. I will keep an eye out for updates, no hurry though what you have provided works great with a few tweaks. Quote
-Oz- Posted August 26, 2008 Posted August 26, 2008 I don't have the password anymore. I would just do a wget from my server to yours; its so so so much faster. I've PMed you a link directly to the file. Quote
+ibycus Posted August 27, 2008 Author Posted August 27, 2008 I don't have the password anymore. I would just do a wget from my server to yours; its so so so much faster. I've PMed you a link directly to the file. Wow, that was quick. Where is your server hosted? I'm getting 3MB/sec transfer from my server to yours! Quote
-Oz- Posted August 28, 2008 Posted August 28, 2008 I don't have the password anymore. I would just do a wget from my server to yours; its so so so much faster. I've PMed you a link directly to the file. Wow, that was quick. Where is your server hosted? I'm getting 3MB/sec transfer from my server to yours! Dreamhost... But yea, thats why I use wget wherever possible. Quote
+xakdublin Posted August 28, 2008 Posted August 28, 2008 So what was updated in 2.0? Is there a changelog you keep for updates? Quote
+ibycus Posted August 28, 2008 Author Posted August 28, 2008 So what was updated in 2.0? Is there a changelog you keep for updates? 2.0 now works with the latest version of Mapsource. Also all tiles were 're-tiled' to make them larger, and square as opposed to county shaped, which fixed the 'unselectable county bug'. There does however seem to be a new bug introduced with some of the water features not filling correctly. (Probably should keep a changelog, but I don't...) Quote
+IBcrashen Posted August 28, 2008 Posted August 28, 2008 grrrr 5 hours into download 1/2 there and blip says its done but its not and have to start over. Quote
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