Extreme Geocaching

March 17, 2008

Of all of the reading I have done on geocaches that are anything but "traditional" I found this one close to where I live (close being a 10 mile drive). I think it would qualify for one of the all time extreme and strangest cache.

http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_detai...e8-903ee31f66df

What extremes have you all come across?

3.9k · March 17, 2008

That is a famous extreme geocache which you have stumbled upon, and even though I live a gazillion miles away in Maryland, that cache, along with Plunge Extreme in Kentucky, has been on my "to do" list for a couple of years now, and I will eventually get around to visiting it. If you want more, there are several good public bookmark lists of extreme caches, and one which comes to mind is my own, entitled Extreme and Adventure Caches. There are several other very good public bookmark lists of extreme caches which I am tempted to recommend, and have mentioned on the forum in the past (in other threads) but the problem is that most of them are Euro-centric, listing primarily caches located in Europe, with only a smattering of US caches.

6.7k · March 17, 2008

Extreme? That's nothing!

If you want extreme go hunt The Homeless Bathtub!

3.8k · March 17, 2008

Of all of the reading I have done on geocaches that are anything but "traditional" I found this one close to where I live (close being a 10 mile drive). I think it would qualify for one of the all time extreme and strangest cache.

http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_detai...e8-903ee31f66df

What extremes have you all come across?

Sounds like an obvious Liar's cache to me. I wouldn't trust it. when you see the classic "you must follow logging requirements in the cache", it's a good bet that it is bogus. Of course, it could be real too.

3.8k · March 17, 2008

Extreme? That's nothing!

If you want extreme go hunt The Homeless Bathtub!

Funny, sounds like another liar's cache. And of course, it could be real too.

3.8k · March 17, 2008

Extreme? That's nothing!

If you want extreme go hunt The Homeless Bathtub!

Funny, sounds like another liar's cache. And of course, it could be real too.

Yep, reading the logs, this one definately has to be a joke.

March 17, 2008

I've never done a "Liar's Cache" but I've been tempted on a few caches to "call their bluff." This appears to be one of those.

On a side note - I think its interesting to look at the similarity in the cache descriptions of the two links above (Wastewater and Bathtub).

" There is no trail so you will have to bushwhack in the whole distance. There is a very noticeable elevation change. I could only get 50 foot accuracy because of the obstructions, high brush coverage and the hillside. The coords above will take you to the edge of the water and the cache is at least two feet below the water out about 10 feet under a pile of rocks so as it will not float away. Please cover it back up the way you found it. "

"There is no trail so you will have to bushwhack in the whole distance. There is a very noticeable elevation change. I could only get 20 feet accuracy because of the tree and high brush coverage and the hillside. The coords. above will take you to the edge of the water the cache is 20 inches below the water under a pile of rocks so as it will not float away. Please cover it back up the way you found it."

Aside from minor changes, this is plagiarism at its best.

If it keeps out the riff-raff, more power to 'em.

March 17, 2008

Of all of the reading I have done on geocaches that are anything but "traditional" I found this one close to where I live (close being a 10 mile drive). I think it would qualify for one of the all time extreme and strangest cache.

http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_detai...e8-903ee31f66df

What extremes have you all come across?

Sounds like an obvious Liar's cache to me. I wouldn't trust it. when you see the classic "you must follow logging requirements in the cache", it's a good bet that it is bogus. Of course, it could be real too.

Actually, there are pictures on the cache listing. I happen to live a short drive away and this is real. The cary wastewater treatment plant does discharge water into this lake. It does smell horrid there. The pictures of people all mucked up are real. The logs left on the cache listing are people I have seen before.

I plan on doing this cache and I will let you know if this thing is bogus or not. Nonetheless, it WILL smell there. (Note Cary, NC is also known as Containment Area for Relocated Yankees - most of which are new yorkers - so I can imagine the crap that comes out of there is worse than most) ;-)

3.9k · March 17, 2008

Of all of the reading I have done on geocaches that are anything but "traditional" I found this one close to where I live (close being a 10 mile drive). I think it would qualify for one of the all time extreme and strangest cache.

http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_detai...e8-903ee31f66df

What extremes have you all come across?

Sounds like an obvious Liar's cache to me. I wouldn't trust it. when you see the classic "you must follow logging requirements in the cache", it's a good bet that it is bogus. Of course, it could be real too.

I know many folks who have tackled this cache; it is real, and one of our friends almost died tackling it due to some pathogenic microbes which entered a wound on his leg. On the other hand, there are lots of rumors going around that ALL of our Psycho Urban caches, except for PUC #1, and also Psycho Backcountry Cache #3, are tall tale caches! Who knows?

Edited March 17, 2008 by Vinny & Sue Team

3.8k · March 18, 2008

Of all of the reading I have done on geocaches that are anything but "traditional" I found this one close to where I live (close being a 10 mile drive). I think it would qualify for one of the all time extreme and strangest cache.

http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_detai...e8-903ee31f66df

What extremes have you all come across?

Sounds like an obvious Liar's cache to me. I wouldn't trust it. when you see the classic "you must follow logging requirements in the cache", it's a good bet that it is bogus. Of course, it could be real too.

I know many folks who have tackled this cache; it is real, and one of our friends almost died tackling it due to some pathogenic microbes which entered a wound on his leg. On the other hand, there are lots of rumors going around that ALL of our Psycho Urban caches, except for PUC #1, and also Psycho Backcountry Cache #3, are tall tale caches! Who knows?

Of course it's a real cache, a real liars cache. You can get flesh eating bacteria infections by swimming in any lake if conditions are right. And as for the pictures the other poster mentions, every one of them is a dead giveaway. First of all, the pictures of the grotesque infections I found on Google. Secondly, the team event picture by the fire truck?? Yaaa... there's no way they'd look like that after the cache. Finally, there's no way they'd be going to the cache dressed like that knowing what they were allegedly in for. And then we have the children in the picture, don't forget about the cut grass at ground zero. And it wouldn't be complete without the sock puppet logs posted on the listing.

And the final reason why they're B.S., Vinny is the king of literary creativism (sp?), and you have to believe the exact opposite of everything he says. Do a search on his profile and you be the judge... it's good stuff, and I mean that as a compliment.

3.8k · March 18, 2008

Of all of the reading I have done on geocaches that are anything but "traditional" I found this one close to where I live (close being a 10 mile drive). I think it would qualify for one of the all time extreme and strangest cache.

http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_detai...e8-903ee31f66df

What extremes have you all come across?

Sounds like an obvious Liar's cache to me. I wouldn't trust it. when you see the classic "you must follow logging requirements in the cache", it's a good bet that it is bogus. Of course, it could be real too.

Actually, there are pictures on the cache listing. I happen to live a short drive away and this is real. The cary wastewater treatment plant does discharge water into this lake. It does smell horrid there. The pictures of people all mucked up are real. The logs left on the cache listing are people I have seen before.

I plan on doing this cache and I will let you know if this thing is bogus or not. Nonetheless, it WILL smell there. (Note Cary, NC is also known as Containment Area for Relocated Yankees - most of which are new yorkers - so I can imagine the crap that comes out of there is worse than most) ;-)

I hope you do attempt the cache. But even if you do, we'll never find out the truth. Because in a Liar's cache, in order to get credit for the find, you have to swear to secrecy.

Here's a case in Wisconsin of a Liar's Cache gone bad.. lots of hard feelings and fighting because the cache owner and some finders of the cache were touting it luring people into the cache from long distances only to find it was B.S... this one really blew up big time a year or so ago... The Gauntlet.. Let the Games Begin!! When you start reading the logs, you will start to see the pattern. The two caches listed here in that post follow every pattern that The Gauntlet had.

And then of course, they could still be real extreme caches... but I wouldn't bet on it.

March 18, 2008

I have never seen an extreme cache ...just extreme cachers willing to do anything to get a smiley .

March 18, 2008

Based on the GE imagery of the area where the cache in question is, it DOES look icky and smelly, but I don't see much room for rocks or steep cliffs and things that are mentioned in the logs. However, its interesting that the logs often indicate climbing fences - I thought that fences more or less indicated private property and that it would be trespassing to go there - thereby making the cache an illegal one. But, because it has not been removed, I would venture that its a perfectly legit cache with some EXTREME embellishing going on - in which case, I suppose we could call it EXTREME, but in a different sense.

March 18, 2008

Of course it's a real cache, a real liars cache. You can get flesh eating bacteria infections by swimming in any lake if conditions are right. And as for the pictures the other poster mentions, every one of them is a dead giveaway. First of all, the pictures of the grotesque infections I found on Google. Secondly, the team event picture by the fire truck?? Yaaa... there's no way they'd look like that after the cache. Finally, there's no way they'd be going to the cache dressed like that knowing what they were allegedly in for. And then we have the children in the picture, don't forget about the cut grass at ground zero. And it wouldn't be complete without the sock puppet logs posted on the listing.

And the final reason why they're B.S., Vinny is the king of literary creativism (sp?), and you have to believe the exact opposite of everything he says. Do a search on his profile and you be the judge... it's good stuff, and I mean that as a compliment.

Number 1- the grotesque pictures of the infections were for the bathtub cache, not for the wastewater cache. Secondly, that fire/rescue squad I believe are a team of cachers. Thirdly, why wouldn't grass be green around a waste water site? Yes, the water coming out is treated, but the area still smells nonetheless, and yes, that lake happens to have a very high pcb content in it, more so than most lakes in this area. And regardless of the wastewater being treated, do you really think ALL traces of virii are taken out?

While it may not be actually sh*t you are wading through, given that fact that are are a couple of hundred yards away from the facility, given the smell and given the unknowns of what really is in the ground there (lets be honest, how much do any of us REALLy trust the government to be totally honest with us about adhereing to the standards THEY made), how many people would not attempt this cache because of its nature?

I am not saying liar cache's dont exist, not am I saying this one itself is not over embelished, but what I know of those who did this cache, of the area, and of that particular facility - this cache is a real one.

14k · March 18, 2008

Of all of the reading I have done on geocaches that are anything but "traditional" I found this one close to where I live (close being a 10 mile drive). I think it would qualify for one of the all time extreme and strangest cache.

http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_detai...e8-903ee31f66df

What extremes have you all come across?

I haven't personally done any real extreme caches but I've read several thread in the forums that have described a bunch of them (most are on the Bookmark that was posted). The most extreme cache that I read about was one in the pacific ocean somewhere that was over a 1000 feet underwater and was placed using a submarine. I don't recall the name or waypoint but a forum search would probably find it.

3.8k · March 18, 2008

Of course it's a real cache, a real liars cache. You can get flesh eating bacteria infections by swimming in any lake if conditions are right. And as for the pictures the other poster mentions, every one of them is a dead giveaway. First of all, the pictures of the grotesque infections I found on Google. Secondly, the team event picture by the fire truck?? Yaaa... there's no way they'd look like that after the cache. Finally, there's no way they'd be going to the cache dressed like that knowing what they were allegedly in for. And then we have the children in the picture, don't forget about the cut grass at ground zero. And it wouldn't be complete without the sock puppet logs posted on the listing.

And the final reason why they're B.S., Vinny is the king of literary creativism (sp?), and you have to believe the exact opposite of everything he says. Do a search on his profile and you be the judge... it's good stuff, and I mean that as a compliment.

Number 1- the grotesque pictures of the infections were for the bathtub cache, not for the wastewater cache. Secondly, that fire/rescue squad I believe are a team of cachers. Thirdly, why wouldn't grass be green around a waste water site? Yes, the water coming out is treated, but the area still smells nonetheless, and yes, that lake happens to have a very high pcb content in it, more so than most lakes in this area. And regardless of the wastewater being treated, do you really think ALL traces of virii are taken out?

While it may not be actually sh*t you are wading through, given that fact that are are a couple of hundred yards away from the facility, given the smell and given the unknowns of what really is in the ground there (lets be honest, how much do any of us REALLy trust the government to be totally honest with us about adhereing to the standards THEY made), how many people would not attempt this cache because of its nature?

I am not saying liar cache's dont exist, not am I saying this one itself is not over embelished, but what I know of those who did this cache, of the area, and of that particular facility - this cache is a real one.

I am not saying it is a liar's cache for sure either. All I am saying is that it has all the signs to indicate that it is. Posted pictures of mud and medical issues do not confirm it is an extreme cache... it's all part of the embellishment. And I am certain there are some elements described which are true... but totally embellished. As for the green grass.. I meant the groomed and cut lawn at GZ. I wasn't clear I guess.

March 18, 2008

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I am not saying it is a liar's cache for sure either. All I am saying is that it has all the signs to indicate that it is. Posted pictures of mud and medical issues do not confirm it is an extreme cache... it's all part of the embellishment. And I am certain there are some elements described which are true... but totally embellished. As for the green grass.. I meant the groomed and cut lawn at GZ. I wasn't clear I guess.

In all good fun. Didn't mean for this to get contentious :-)

Regardless, it still smells terrible down there :-) I will probably try this one in the next couple of weeks and let you know how it goes.

3.8k · March 18, 2008

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I am not saying it is a liar's cache for sure either. All I am saying is that it has all the signs to indicate that it is. Posted pictures of mud and medical issues do not confirm it is an extreme cache... it's all part of the embellishment. And I am certain there are some elements described which are true... but totally embellished. As for the green grass.. I meant the groomed and cut lawn at GZ. I wasn't clear I guess.

In all good fun. Didn't mean for this to get contentious :-)

Regardless, it still smells terrible down there :-) I will probably try this one in the next couple of weeks and let you know how it goes.

Same.. wasn't intending on a debate about it..

I'd be interesting in hearing about it. The chances of me doing the cache are slim to none since I live out of state. But remember, if you do it and want to tell me about it, you'd better PM me since logging the liar's cache requires an oath of silence.

March 18, 2008

http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_detai...e8-903ee31f66df Holy @#$^!

That CAN'T be legal with basicaly a BIOHAZARD in the area! Looks like people could easily DIE doing this.. [ :lol:

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Edited March 18, 2008 by Phil&Phil2008

3.1k · March 18, 2008

Here you go. Erta Ale Volcano. I can't vouch for its authenticity, but I buy it, despite the "obvious sock puppet" logs.

Edited March 18, 2008 by Dinoprophet

3.9k · March 18, 2008

http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_detai...e8-903ee31f66df Holy @#$^! That CAN'T be legal with basicaly a BIOHAZARD in the area! Looks like people could easily DIE doing this.. []

Unfortunately, the link you provided has errors and does not work, and thus I cannot take a look at the cache in question. However, if you want hazards and an element of invisible danger, as in radioactivity plus toxic chemical waste onsite, plus hantavirus and plague borne by the local rodents and fleas, please feel free to check out our Psycho Urban Cache #9 - Hot Glowing Tribulations.

3.9k · March 18, 2008

I have never seen an extreme cache ...just extreme cachers willing to do anything to get a smiley .

For those who may not be "in the know", that foto was snapped by Vyper4 from a cliffside park overlooking Psycho Urban Cache #13 - Impossible! Give Up Now! as I approached it by helicopter to do some cache maintenance two weeks after its initial placement; you will see me sitting in the left-side seat. David (Vyper4) was a member of the FTF team -- known as Team Psycho -- for this cache; their effort took about 9 people a total of over 20 hours apiece, spread over three weekends, before they were able to successfully log the FTF. In addition to the several DNFs to be found on the cache listing page, there have been over 14 DNFs for this cache of which I am aware which have never been logged online, by cachers from across at least 5 states.

Edited March 19, 2008 by Vinny & Sue Team

2.1k · March 21, 2008

I will let you know if this thing is bogus or not.

I wouldn't if I were you ... IF you survive!

I still have occasional bouts of diarrhea.

Edited March 21, 2008 by Maingray

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