+Dadbo Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 So I post a DNF to a cache, but later I find the elusive little monster. Do I post the find and remove the previous DNF? Quote Link to comment
HarLin Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 I leave the DNF and add a find. I look at it as a record of my adventures and enjoy reviewing a cache and our experiences with it. HarLin So I post a DNF to a cache, but later I find the elusive little monster. Do I post the find and remove the previous DNF? Quote Link to comment
+NeoAddict Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 I do the same as HarLin: leave the DNF and just post the Find, and I always add a good comment as to my adventure finding it the second/third try. Quote Link to comment
+briansnat Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 Leave the DNF. It's part of the cache history. Deleting DNFs might give others the wrong impression of the difficulty of the cache. Quote Link to comment
+JegMag Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 I leave the DNF and fess up to the number of times I went back and didn't post a DNF! And I fess up if someone helped or if maybe a clue just suddenly made sense. Or I fess up if I was just a dummy! I agree with a previous poster -- this all adds to the cache history and makes for a fun read. Quote Link to comment
+J-Way Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 I'll agree with everyone else who's posted: leave the original DNF. My typical policy is to post a DNF after my first search attempt, but only post additional DNF's if I give it a REALLY good search or something odd or interesting happens. I usually tell how many trips it took in my final "Found It" log. Quote Link to comment
+Annie & PB Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 We've always left the DNFs, and then just log a Find when/if we do find it. For very nearby local caches we may not log all DNFs as chances are if we are passing the spot every day for the next few days and we have a bit of a quick look each day, as it could get pretty annoying for the owner to get our DNFs each day when it is not needed to alert them to an issue. If we have had a real serious good look we will post a DNF. Annie Quote Link to comment
+Blaidd-Drwg Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 Leave it! We all need a little humility Quote Link to comment
+StarBrand Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 Leave the DNF. Don't look at it as a kind of demerit for either yourself or the cache. It is simply a record of what happened or what could happen. DNF logs provide valuable information to both owners and future seekers. Quote Link to comment
+doingitoldschool Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 I have left mine - they are some of my best attempts at Log Literature! Quote Link to comment
+WRASTRO Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 Definitely leave the DNF and post a new found it log. If it was a truly tough find you might be leaving several DNF logs. We have on a few in our area. Quote Link to comment
+Happy Humphrey Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 What the others said. My view of cache web logs is that they are merely a personal record of cache attempts: a side-effect of them being public is that they can help (or at least entertain) other cachers. So the more honest and complete, the better. Quote Link to comment
+currykev Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 Whats a DNF? Everything I do,I do with perfection! Quote Link to comment
+GPS_Runner Posted March 12, 2008 Share Posted March 12, 2008 Ok, I'll be the odd man out here. I edit the previous log. I will change the DNF to Fount It and add the find information to the existing DNF text: _______________________________ This the original DNF text. EDIT: On 1/1/2000 I returned and located the cache _______________________________ I do this because it keeps the integrity of the cache log (people can read both the DNF info and the eventual find), and it prevents lots of searching on DNF's to see if I found them later. Quote Link to comment
+beejay&esskay Posted March 12, 2008 Share Posted March 12, 2008 (edited) The integrity is not quite maintained because you have the wrong log date for the find. (Yes, I know you put it in the text...but those of us using programs like GSAK [and looking at summary information] will not know you had a DNF on that date and will think you found it when you didn‘t.) Edited March 12, 2008 by beejay&esskay Quote Link to comment
crawil Posted March 12, 2008 Share Posted March 12, 2008 I started out editing my DNF logs into Found's but I, too, felt that it was altering both the cache's and my personal history. I left the original logs as they were and have switch to leaving my DNF's as they stand. Also, when you create a log, an email is sent to the cache owner. An edited log does not, so the only way the CO would know that you got a find would be to visit the cache page for some other reason and stumble on your modified log. Quote Link to comment
+Maingray Posted March 12, 2008 Share Posted March 12, 2008 I leave the DNF and fess up to the number of times I went back and didn't post a DNF! And I fess up if someone helped or if maybe a clue just suddenly made sense. Or I fess up if I was just a dummy! Yup! Quote Link to comment
+Thrak Posted March 12, 2008 Share Posted March 12, 2008 I have caches with more than one DNF before I made the find. There's nothing wrong with logging a DNF. I've logged a DNF on a 1/1. Quote Link to comment
+beejay&esskay Posted March 12, 2008 Share Posted March 12, 2008 I have caches with more than one DNF before I made the find. There's nothing wrong with logging a DNF. I've logged a DNF on a 1/1. That is a club I can join. I just checked GSAK. There are 32 active caches rated 1/1 that I DNF. Quote Link to comment
metherk Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 It's important to log the DNFs especially for cache owners. We had a very frustrating DNF that we logged. I checked back a week later 3 other DNFs prompted the cache owner to check on it. Turns out the cache was missing and the owner replaced it. If no one logged DNFs the owner would have never known. Quote Link to comment
Kyul_and_Carbon Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 I leave the DNFs ... its a personal justice to go back and be able to log a Found I think it eliminates the true stats if you go editing the first. Heck - I sometimes wonder how many people focus on not having DNFs or just don't log them.... Its not about the smiles or frowns - its about having fun Quote Link to comment
+Harry Dolphin Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 I do not necessarily log more than one DNF on a cache. But, if I have logged a DNF, I have logged a DNF. When I find a cache, I log a Find. Finding a cache does not change the fact that I DNFed that cache previously. What is is. Quote Link to comment
Kyul_and_Carbon Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 I do not necessarily log more than one DNF on a cache. But, if I have logged a DNF, I have logged a DNF. When I find a cache, I log a Find. Finding a cache does not change the fact that I DNFed that cache previously. What is is. Quote Link to comment
Kyul_and_Carbon Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 I do not necessarily log more than one DNF on a cache. But, if I have logged a DNF, I have logged a DNF. When I find a cache, I log a Find. Finding a cache does not change the fact that I DNFed that cache previously. What is is. There is one particular cache here I logged 3 DNFs on LOL Three different days and I just couldn't find the darn thing! Took my son on the 4th day and the lil bugger found it within minutes Quote Link to comment
+Ariel_PSU Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 I've logged 2 DNFs on my first day out... and it turned out to be a good thing. The cache owner contacted me about one of them, and turns out I was looking in exactly the right place for exactly the right thing. The owner is on his way to check out the hide now. I haven't heard back... but I'm guessing something is missing or out of place. So yeah.... the DNF was a good idea. And to me, getting to log a find after logging at least one DNF on one is actually something I look forward to. It'll be really nice to show that accomplishment. ~Ariel Quote Link to comment
+paleolith Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Perhaps some people think of a DNF as a mark against them. But your find count is count(finds), not count(finds) minus count(DNFs). DNFs are just comments. Edward Quote Link to comment
+Dankinia Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 I don't always log my DNF's even on the first attempt out. I am so new at this that my not finding it does not mean there is anything wrong or that it is even all that hard. One that I found today took me 3 tries. The first two I had my gps set wrong so user error caused the DNF. I never logged them, but I mentioned on my found log today that I had been there twice before. I have logged DNF's on a couple where I really enjoyed the journey even though I did not make the find. When I do finally find them, I will leave the DNF logs and just post a new found log. Quote Link to comment
miles_vagar Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 (edited) I don't always log my DNF's even on the first attempt out. I am so new at this that my not finding it does not mean there is anything wrong or that it is even all that hard. One that I found today took me 3 tries. The first two I had my gps set wrong so user error caused the DNF. I never logged them, but I mentioned on my found log today that I had been there twice before. I have logged DNF's on a couple where I really enjoyed the journey even though I did not make the find. When I do finally find them, I will leave the DNF logs and just post a new found log. Lots of people start playing this game. In fact, nearly all of us started at one point. Maybe you should leave DNFs so that the next person who starts playing and fails to find a particlar cache isn't discouraged by what looks like a flawless record of finds. Edited March 24, 2008 by miles_vagar Quote Link to comment
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