+FantasticCat Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Tomorrow my sister-in-law Laurinque is coming over to do some of my caches. One may published just before we go out. Clearly it is not really on finding a FTF when the setter is present and also some people may think I timed the publication to coincide with the visit (this is not true btw- there was an unforeseen delay in its publication). However we do want to do this cache so was wondering if it was possible to do it but not claim a FTF on it, leaving it open for the next cacher? Quote Link to comment
+Renegade Knight Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 On paper yes. Reality is your sis in law would be FTF. Quote Link to comment
+keehotee Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Surely if you find it first you are FTF, whether you put that in your log or not. Any subsequent finders would see that it had already been found so wouldn't be FTF.........??? There's nothing official about FTF - Grounspeak doesn't recognise it as a log type. so any FTF's you claim (or not) are purely for your own records anyway........ Quote Link to comment
+Birders Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Why on earth not?? We're in this for fun remember. We once told a friend where we were laying a cache so they could get san FTF. See nothing wrong in that at all.... no worse than people ringing around to get clues as to where caches are hidden (but something we don't subscribe to). Quote Link to comment
+scottpa100 Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Yeah - let them claim it. I was with Tynymynydd when they set a cache. On top of a mountain, Mynydd Bach, and for those who know their Welsh, it didn't feel like a Small Mountain! I asked if I could claim the FTF, which I was. I was there, and the all important log book was there to sign. I feel it was a legitimate FTF and I think you should allow your sister-in-law claim theirs. Quote Link to comment
NickPick Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 I expect this question is academic because it's likely that someone else will beat your sister to the FTF, but if you're talking about being 'fair', then so long as you don't show her where the cache is, then she'll have found it without help and deserves to claim a FTF for it. Quote Link to comment
+minstrelcat Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 I had a similar situation once where I was checking out a cache for a fellow cacher before it was published. I wanted to claim a find but not a FTF so dated my online find for the day after the 'real FTF'. Lisa Quote Link to comment
+FantasticCat Posted February 21, 2008 Author Share Posted February 21, 2008 I expect this question is academic because it's likely that someone else will beat your sister to the FTF, but if you're talking about being 'fair', then so long as you don't show her where the cache is, then she'll have found it without help and deserves to claim a FTF for it. I agree with this to an extent, although most of the thing with a FTF is getting organised to move quickly when a cache is published. The visit had been planned for a week or so for today, although the caches were meant to come out on Monday (there was a delay in trying to get permission for one). In the end a second-to-find was logged, which was pleasing as the tricky situation didn't materialise Quote Link to comment
+Delta68 Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 Drifting off topic slightly, we were second to find on a cache once where the FTF had had extensive help from the cacher owner because he couldn't find it. What's on earth was the point in that! It's almost as pointless as logging finds on your own caches! Quote Link to comment
+Knight2000 Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 I hate when i see a log book and the first log says: FTF!!!!!!!! FTF!!!!!!! YAY!!!!! Yay, you get a knuckle sandwich. I just dont see the point in even mentioning it, in the log or otherwise. Quote Link to comment
+The HERB5 Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 Me personally no, I'd just have to log it Quote Link to comment
+Delta68 Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 It's nice to get FTF on a tricky puzzle cache Quote Link to comment
+Captain Gore-tex Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 To be honest do what you want to; it's your cache, there is nothing in the 'rules' about set conduct. If you have taken the trouble to set a cache it is your choice, if anyone takes issue they can choose not to search for it if they wish. Quote Link to comment
+Team NarrowBoat Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 I second that it a game and how you want to play is up to you, so let her have the FTF. To be honest do what you want to; it's your cache, there is nothing in the 'rules' about set conduct. If you have taken the trouble to set a cache it is your choice, if anyone takes issue they can choose not to search for it if they wish. Quote Link to comment
+2202 Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Sounds like you support a club that wanted to be first, but then decided that the eventual goal may not be worth it. And are therefore prepared to come second or have a playoff for it. Quote Link to comment
+FantasticCat Posted February 24, 2008 Author Share Posted February 24, 2008 Second would do me fine Quote Link to comment
+jerryo Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 I hate when i see a log book and the first log says: FTF!!!!!!!! FTF!!!!!!! YAY!!!!! Yay, you get a knuckle sandwich. I just dont see the point in even mentioning it, in the log or otherwise. As far as the "otherwise" goes, I put "FTF" in my online logs so I can search for them for statistical purposes using "cachestats" so there is a point to doing that, though. Knuckle sandwich parried, methinks Quote Link to comment
+maxkim Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Managed a FTF on a Wherigo cache today, bit special so made the effort in spite of the rain. LOL. MaxKim, Quote Link to comment
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