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Non-Published Mark enters the published database


Ernmark

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A month or 2 ago, I was looking for Tri-Station TUSCA (KW2864) and found a USGS mark as described right next to a reference mark (in fact, because of the double signature, I found them before the station). I was curious as to why the USGS mark wasn't in the database, especially because of the situation at another station not too far away (SNYDER-KW2855 & USGS MARK NEAR SNYDER 1935-KW2856) - so when I got around to submitting the recovery info for TUSCA, I looked for "USGS MARK NEAR TUSCA" & finally found it - unpublished. The non-pub code was 'D - No Descriptive Text available'. So...I thought, since I collected updated information for TUSCA - I would go ahead & add my recovery information to the USGS mark as well (and then added to Waymarking -WM2GNA) . I wasn't sure what would happen, or even if I should have done that, but with this month's NGS uploads, this appeared: NGS - KW2863.

 

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USGS MARK NEAR TUSCA 1935 & its buddy TUSCA RM 2

 

I wonder if all it needed for the past 72 years (o.k - since entered into the database) was the descriptive text? Kind of neat to 'bring one back'!

 

PS - TUSCA's first-order & 'NEAR TUSCA's second - but it's always good to have a nearby backup, right? :laughing:

Edited by Ernmark
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How did you find the unpublished mark exactly?

 

I found that the PID listed for it in the Box Score® was a normal PID (in this area KWnnnn) instead of the 'mysterious' PID's that often accompany RM's:

 

KW2864|---------------------------------------------------------------------|

KW2864| PID Reference Object Distance Geod. Az |

KW2864| dddmmss.s |

KW2864| CK8148 TUSCA RM 1 11.910 METERS 06746 |

KW2864| KW2855 SNYDER APPROX.10.6 KM 1014050.9 |

KW2864| KW2858 PENNSYLVANIA STATE AWY BCN 29 APPROX.15.0 KM 1411231.3 |

KW2864| KW2863 USGS MARK NEAR TUSCA 1935 12.830 METERS 18542 |

KW2864| CK8149 TUSCA RM 2 13.000 METERS 18610 |

KW2864| KW2861 PITTSBURGH HARRISB AWY BCN 28 APPROX.11.1 KM 1962225.1 |

KW2864|---------------------------------------------------------------------|

 

..so I put the PID 'KW2863' in the datasheet retrieval page (also clicked on destroyed box on the hunch that it may have been classified as destroyed ) & got the 'Fatal Error - No Marks Found' page that lists all of the codes & has the PID at the bottom...there was no indication that it was destroyed & it had the unusual 'D' classification.

 

This was a first for me!

 

Edit to add the following musing: ..wonder why when setting TUSCA, they didn't just make the USGS disk RM 2? To test a 3" difference in arc from ~13 meters?

Edited by Ernmark

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