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Many thanks to g-o-cashers for putting these lists together, and to all those who have contributed info! The information collected has been very valuable to me. I will most likely purchase a Colorado at some point but for now I'm going to hold off.

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The Colorado is not yet released anyway, by the time it is available if you have any issues please let us know.

 

Kind regards

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Well that explains a lot. If the Colorado isn't released yet, we must have beta units. Man, I always wanted to be a beta tester. Wait, don't they usually give you the units to beta test without having you pay for them? :laughing:

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The Colorado is not yet released anyway, by the time it is available if you have any issues please let us know.

 

Kind regards

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Well that explains a lot. If the Colorado isn't released yet, we must have beta units. Man, I always wanted to be a beta tester. Wait, don't they usually give you the units to beta test without having you pay for them? :D

:D:laughing::):D:):)

This must all be a dream, but I'm usually better looking and smarter in my dreams.

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I sent the link to the issues list and received a different response:

 

Dear Steve,

 

Thank you for contacting Garmin International.

 

We appreciate the information.

 

We will take a look accordingly.

 

With Best Regards,

 

Kim J

 

Product Support Specialist

 

Outdoor/Fitness Team

 

Garmin International

 

913-397-8200

 

800-800-1020

 

913-397-8282 (fax) Att: Kim J

 

www.garmin.com

 

Maybe we should all contact Kim! Perhaps we're starting to get their attention more seriously if the acknowledgements are changing. I could alway arrange for a conference call and we could call support with 50 people on the line :laughing:

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From the FAQ

W6.) How many characters are supported in the Colorado's POI name, description and category fields?

 

POI names have 44 characters and the POI category names support 14 characters. POI descriptions aren't visible (at least yet?) on the Colorado -- see the Issues List.

I'm not sure where you got that 44 character limit, but that appears to be false. Here are two POIs display on my Colorado. In my modified GSAK Macro, I threw the hint in with a modified cache waypoint all in the name field. You'll notice that there are over 140 characters (including white space) in both these examples. Also, in the GCVRE1 example, you can see that the actual limitation seems to be the number of lines, not the number of characters. You can see the top of the characters in the next line that were not completely rendered.

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Give the limit in vertical lines, I am tempted to change the macro to replace all return characters with something like | or ; I'd rather have more info than pretty formatting.

 

--Marky

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From the FAQ

W6.) How many characters are supported in the Colorado's POI name, description and category fields?

 

POI names have 44 characters and the POI category names support 14 characters. POI descriptions aren't visible (at least yet?) on the Colorado -- see the Issues List.

I'm not sure where you got that 44 character limit, but that appears to be false. Here are two POIs display on my Colorado. In my modified GSAK Macro, I threw the hint in with a modified cache waypoint all in the name field. You'll notice that there are over 140 characters (including white space) in both these examples. Also, in the GCVRE1 example, you can see that the actual limitation seems to be the number of lines, not the number of characters. You can see the top of the characters in the next line that were not completely rendered.

Give the limit in vertical lines, I am tempted to change the macro to replace all return characters with something like | or ; I'd rather have more info than pretty formatting.

 

--Marky

 

Thanks! I got the information from one of the discussions yesterday but this seems to confirm something different. If you can characterize the character/line limit I'll update the FAQ.

 

Edit: remove the images.

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Thanks! I got the information from one of the discussions yesterday but this seems to confirm something different. If you can characterize the character/line limit I'll update the FAQ.

I'll do that when I get home. I don't have access to the computer that has GSAK and POILoader on it, so I can't play with this until this evening. I'm guessing that there as a practical limit for now, which will be a combination of max number of lines, and then the max number of characters displayable in those lines. I'm going to guess that 9 lines is the max, and if you take the average number of (word wrapped) characters on the hint with no returns in it, you get around 22. So, 9 x 22 is 198 so my prediction is that you can get nearly 200 characters displayed if there aren't any returns in the text.

 

--Marky

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From the FAQ

W6.) How many characters are supported in the Colorado's POI name, description and category fields?

 

POI names have 44 characters and the POI category names support 14 characters. POI descriptions aren't visible (at least yet?) on the Colorado -- see the Issues List.

I'm not sure where you got that 44 character limit, but that appears to be false. Here are two POIs display on my Colorado. In my modified GSAK Macro, I threw the hint in with a modified cache waypoint all in the name field. You'll notice that there are over 140 characters (including white space) in both these examples. Also, in the GCVRE1 example, you can see that the actual limitation seems to be the number of lines, not the number of characters. You can see the top of the characters in the next line that were not completely rendered.

Give the limit in vertical lines, I am tempted to change the macro to replace all return characters with something like | or ; I'd rather have more info than pretty formatting.

 

--Marky

 

Thanks! I got the information from one of the discussions yesterday but this seems to confirm something different. If you can characterize the character/line limit I'll update the FAQ.

 

Edit: remove the images.

 

A quick test shows that the POI name can have around 170 characters before it gets clipped off as shown in Marky's post.

 

GO$Rs

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I noticed this in your FAQ list.

 

W7.) Where are POI databases kept on the Colorado?

 

The POI Loader installs the .gpi files into [drive]:\Garmin\POI\poi.gpi

 

Just a note that "poi.gpi" is the default custom POI file that is created by POI loader. However, you can have multiple .gpi files by renaming and creating new ones. The unit should automatically read all of the .gpi files. With that understood, you don't have to re-create all of your POIs everytime you use the POI loader.

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I noticed this in your FAQ list.

 

W7.) Where are POI databases kept on the Colorado?

 

The POI Loader installs the .gpi files into [drive]:\Garmin\POI\poi.gpi

 

Just a note that "poi.gpi" is the default custom POI file that is created by POI loader. However, you can have multiple .gpi files by renaming and creating new ones. The unit should automatically read all of the .gpi files. With that understood, you don't have to re-create all of your POIs everytime you use the POI loader.

That's a nice tip. I was wondering how I could put all my hides in and not have them blown away each time. Thanks.

 

--Marky

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I noticed this in your FAQ list.

 

W7.) Where are POI databases kept on the Colorado?

 

The POI Loader installs the .gpi files into [drive]:\Garmin\POI\poi.gpi

 

Just a note that "poi.gpi" is the default custom POI file that is created by POI loader. However, you can have multiple .gpi files by renaming and creating new ones. The unit should automatically read all of the .gpi files. With that understood, you don't have to re-create all of your POIs everytime you use the POI loader.

That's a nice tip. I was wondering how I could put all my hides in and not have them blown away each time. Thanks.

 

--Marky

 

Yes, an awesome tip! Thank you!

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Marky, that's awesome you found the greater POI character amount! I had been basing my limits from my 60Cx experience. This is a very nice development for use of custom POIs in the Colorado. I will play around later tonight.

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New issue... it's happened three times, so I'm fairly certain it's a real problem...

 

After starting up, satellite reception is near non-existent on rare occasions (maybe 10% of the time). Checking satellite status shows two or three sats barely visible... just a couple of pixels on the "gauge". Sometimes it'll find another "barely visible" satellite and lose one that it already had. The only way I've seen it recover from this is to wait for it to show the "trouble locating satellites" screen to ask if I want to continue.

 

As soon as I say "yes", it immediately comes up with all sats normal and very quickly gets a fix... this says it's a software issue to me.

 

I'll try to grab screen caps of it next time. Colorado 400t, 2.30 software, 2.60 gps, City Nav 2008 on SD card (only about 5 segments).

 

BTW... thanks for maintaining this. :mad:

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New issue... it's happened three times, so I'm fairly certain it's a real problem...

 

After starting up, satellite reception is near non-existent on rare occasions (maybe 10% of the time). Checking satellite status shows two or three sats barely visible... just a couple of pixels on the "gauge". Sometimes it'll find another "barely visible" satellite and lose one that it already had. The only way I've seen it recover from this is to wait for it to show the "trouble locating satellites" screen to ask if I want to continue.

 

As soon as I say "yes", it immediately comes up with all sats normal and very quickly gets a fix... this says it's a software issue to me.

 

I'll try to grab screen caps of it next time. Colorado 400t, 2.30 software, 2.60 gps, City Nav 2008 on SD card (only about 5 segments).

 

BTW... thanks for maintaining this. :mad:

 

Does this happen after you've had your GPS turned on for a long time (say an hour) without signal lock?

 

GO$Rs

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Does this happen after you've had your GPS turned on for a long time (say an hour) without signal lock?

 

Nope... it seems that the unit just has to be off for a couple of hours. I fired it up when I finished writing that post and it did it again... here are some shots...

 

After startup:

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After about 5 minutes I finally get:

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I select "Yes" and about three seconds later I get:

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Then a few seconds later, I get:

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Note: If quoting, please remove screen shots... no need to clutter up the post. Thanks.

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Nope... it seems that the unit just has to be off for a couple of hours. I fired it up when I finished writing that post and it did it again... here are some shots...

 

 

When that happens again can you quick click the power button to get to the summary screen and see what the time is? Is it significantly off?

 

GO$Rs

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Nitpick...

 

If you turn off the sounds on the Colorado, and then set the alarm to wake you, the alarm will wake the unit but you will hear no sound hence not waking you up. I found out the hard way this morning. Could they give you the choice of which sound to turn off. At the risk of sounding like a broken record, LIKE THE OLDER UNITS?

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When that happens again can you quick click the power button to get to the summary screen and see what the time is? Is it significantly off?

 

I'll check it again tomorrow on the way to work. If it's not raining (50/50 chance), I cross the National Mall here in DC, so there's no possibility of it NOT finding a sat.

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As for the emergency service application, I'd say it's obviously so specific, that the solution must be just as obvious: Get the 60 CSx.

 

The same does of course go for those who considers sorting by date to be the best, if that's the most important thing to them.

Anders,

I don't see it like that, because of 2 reasons.

First, to me, the 60 CSX is the predecessor of the Colorado, and therefore the Colorado should be able to do at least everything the CSX can do, plus something the CS could do (but not the CSX) plus some new senseful features.

 

Second, I really don't see a reason why it should not be possible to log every single trackpoint in a "log" directory on the SD-card like on the 60 CSX.

That could be done as a configurable function, and would need a programming overhead of nearly zero, because the data are just there, they only need to be saved.

That would not disturb YOUR above mentioned functionality, which is of no use for me, but for you.

 

Actually I would like to replace our 60 CSX'es to the Colorado because of some nice new features, but because it can't do the tracklog this simple way like the 60 CSX, we can't do an upgrade.

 

I confess, we would not replace them immediately, because of the accu-problems and the other things I red, but I believe that will be solved in a few months with firmware updates.

But I don't have the impression, that the tracklog will come again, and that's a killer application for us.

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This is great thread so I will add my own few comments, additions and observations for the bug list (I have Colorado 300):

 

1) Unit with TOPO US 2008 or TOPO Canada displays neither street names, elevations, nor stream or river names all of which do show up in MapSource or on my GPSMap 76CSx (related item is explicitly talking about City Navigator, but it seems to be general problem)

 

2) I have problems with USB drivers for the SD card, unit can't write to the card. I am parfectly able to upload the data to the same card through my GPSMap 76CSx (it is MicroSD with SD adapter) and the card works just fine in the Colorado after that. When I try writting from MapSource to SD card through Colorado, it eventually fails. During the upload Windows behave as if the drive representing SD card was repeatedly disconnected and reconnected (autoplay choices window keeps comming up, Windows Explorer reloads itself every so often).

 

3) Unit does not paint entire map for zoom factors 50km, 30km and 20km. Number of "missing" map tiles varies anywhere from 0-100% (have pictures but don't know how to post them). Observed with TOPO US 2008.

 

4) NiMH usage. I am using Duracel 2650mAh NiMh and unit run with 100% backlight from 9:50am to around 7pm (9-10 hours), after that it dropped the backlight and run till till 10:35pm when it dropped to red bar and eventually died at 11:52pm. This was with 'battery type' set to Alkaline (incorrectly). I have tried similar run with 'battery type' set to NiMH and although unit lasted some 14.5 hours, with last 4 hours on red bar. I am not sure when it dropped the backlight, only that at 6.5 hours after start it was already down. I seems that setting 'battery type' to Alkaline even when using NiMH gives you longer full backlight. Surprisingly, my last test was to see how long will the unit last without backlight and I was surprised to find out that it dropped to 2 bars and later to single red bar much sooner than I would expect after previous tests (it is 10 hours since I started 'no backlight' test and it is already down to single red bar for few hours).

 

Some wishfull thinking:

 

1) Two or more global color schemes: one with dark text on light background (should improve readability when using without backlight), other as is (light text on dark background)

 

2) Optional more compact menus (so that more items would fit on screen), same for trip computer.

 

3) Circular menus so that I could scroll up from first item and get to the last item. This would make using, especially longer, menus faster.

 

4) Shortcut from map to map settings.

 

5) Improved map drawing in MapSource so that it looks the same as on the Colorado series.

 

6) Possibly replace gray as color for streets (inner color) with white or lighter gray to make them more visible (in recreational mode, automotive mode is fine as is)

 

7) It would be good if Colorado series actually showed up in 'Product group' when trying to contact Garmin support via email.

 

8) Compatibility with National Geographic Topo Maps (for once, I would like to have up-to-date maps where roads and trails on the map and in the world actually overlap more often :mad: ).

 

I really like the Colorado's high resolution screen and how it displays the maps (except for missing labels of course) and hope we will see it getting the quality of the firmware we deserve.

 

GO$Rs, thanks for all the work you are doing (Garmin should pay you for this).

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1) Yes, probably the same issue as with CN maps. Someone decided to show less data.

 

2) Mine works, so some cards can be handled, obviously.

 

3) The same goes for all Garmin GPS units. They can show a certain number of map tiles simultaneously.

 

First, to me, the 60 CSX is the predecessor of the Colorado, and therefore the Colorado should be able to do at least everything the CSX can do, plus something the CS could do (but not the CSX) plus some new senseful features.
I've of course not seen the project specification for this project, but seeing what they came up with, I'd imagine that they saw it more like something that branches off from the outdoor GPS tree, rather than a direct upgrade successor to the GPSmap 60 CSx and 60 CS.

 

Everybody who expected the same as you are probably equally disappointed, as can be seen in this forum.

 

It's another thing that some of the functions it does support doesn't work as intended.

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@g-o-cashers

...if you do there are very strict procedures for how that happens and is documented to the customer...

This is absolutely true - and i bet only a few people do know that the colorado is not a better gpsmap - it is a different type of gps

The Colorado is NOT the next step/generation after the gpsmap60CSX or Vista HCX

 

Garmin has to tell this to their customers.

on Garmins website, you cannot see, that colorado-users will miss gpsmap/vista-functions

https://buy.garmin.com/shop/compare.do?cID=...pareProduct=310

I wish Garmin would post a sort of "white paper" detailing the difference is features and function between the Colorado, the 60CSx (and related) and the Vista HCx (and related). It's so likely that people who already own the earlier models (like myself) will assume that the Colorado is a successor to the 60.

 

Garmin should document the major, minor, and subtle differences between the models, and comment on why one model might be a better choice for various intended uses. It would help their customers to select and purchase the model that best meets their needs.

 

Personally, I'm particularly interested in what uses of the 60 series the Colorado is not intended for. I had assumed (yes, I made the assumption) that it would do whatever the 60 did, plus have the all-inclusive caching functionality plus Wherigo (and some other things.)

 

Has anyone heard that Garmin intended the Colorado for a different audience than the 60 and Vista? If so, different in what way?

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When that happens again can you quick click the power button to get to the summary screen and see what the time is? Is it significantly off?

 

g-o... checked it this morning and it behaved normally instead of not finding sats. However, I did check the time before it acquired a sat lock and it was showing the time from when I switched it off last night. Since it does this when it is hunting sats normally, I'd assume it's the same behavior when it gets in it's strange "blind" mode that I posted about earlier.

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Found another one that I didn't see in the FAQ... tracks are kind of messed up.

 

It seems that the Colorado doesn't "stop" tracking when it's turned off... My tracks jump from where to shut do to where it started up next time. See screen shots below. Long straight black lines are "jumps" caused by shutting down somewhere and starting up somewhere else... the track never ends at the shutdown.

 

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Also, as you can see on the shots, it does appear that multiple tracks are visible. Your FAQ says this is an issue that should be fixed (unless I'm not understanding the description). Seems to work fine on my version... 2.30/2.60.

 

PS... please don't try to explain track logging/archiving and all that stuff again. The previous debate on that was plenty, I'm not going to sift through another round. :mad:

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Hmm, I don't see anything mentioned about displaying multiple tracks?

 

The reference to the Zumo filtering some points out of the tracks can be misunderstood. I think it was my description that wasn't clear. As it's written now, in the FAQ, you get the impression that points considered as "noise" inside a track are removed. What I meant was instead this:

 

You drive a tour of 50 km, then turn the Zumo off.

This tour is recorded as one activity (A).

You turn the Zumo on, but for some reason don't get away for ten minutes. During this time, the Zumo will record the normal drift, thus seemingly move erratically across a rather small area.

Then you enter a new destination and let the Zumo compute a route, 30 km long. Changing the destination is considered to be one reason to start a new activity, so the Zumo will save the position drift track as activity (;).

Once you've completed the 30 km trip, and turn the Zumo off for a while, that trip will be saved as activity ©.

 

As long as these all fit in the active track log, A, B and C will all be there. But when automatic archiving kicks in, only A and C will be saved in the archive. B may still be long, especially if you had it on for hours, not just a few minutes, before venturing out on your drive. All the small steps back and forth may accumulate to several kilometers, but it will still not be archived, since the absolute movement from one end to another is too small. You never leave a rather confined space, so the track segment is discarded as noise.

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When that happens again can you quick click the power button to get to the summary screen and see what the time is? Is it significantly off?

It is. That I can tell from seeing how the assumed satellite geometry differs from the real one, once the unit can calculate a position.
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Anders, I think what smthng was questioning is it seems the tracks are not being "ended" when the unit is turned off. Upon booting the unit the new track is beginning where it left off, instead of creating a separate new track. So you see a straight line that connects the end of a previous track, to the start of a new session of tracking. I see this as well on my 300.

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Hmm, I don't see anything mentioned about displaying multiple tracks?

From the issues list, under "Must Fix (P2)", about the sixth entry down...

  • 1/26/08: Cannot see multiple stored tracks on the map page at the same time.

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Aha. I looked in the FAQ.

 

There is a "show on map" setting for saved tracks. Can't that be set for them all, so you then see them all at the same time on the regular map screen?

 

The connecting track lines are annoying to me, too. It stops tracking when you turn it off, but it draws a line to the next point, when you turn it on again. As long as you start from where your stooped it doesn't matter, but if you have moved a bit, before it gets the position, then it messes up the map.

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There is a "show on map" setting for saved tracks. Can't that be set for them all, so you then see them all at the same time on the regular map screen?

Anders, I have this set to "show on map" on my 300 and I can not see any saved tracks on the map page. If you go thru Others/Tracks and select a track, it will zoom to that single track and display it as a light blue track, but I have other tracks very near by and they are not visible. I have assigned different colors to my tracks in Mapsource but colors do not display either. Also, if I pan to the area of my saved multiple tracks, they are NOT visible on the map.

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OK. Due to the other problems related to saving/saved tracks, I haven't played much with it.

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Found another one that I didn't see in the FAQ... tracks are kind of messed up.

 

It seems that the Colorado doesn't "stop" tracking when it's turned off... My tracks jump from where to shut do to where it started up next time. See screen shots below. Long straight black lines are "jumps" caused by shutting down somewhere and starting up somewhere else... the track never ends at the shutdown.

 

Thanks, I'll add this to the list, I've noticed it myself. The Colorado doesn't seem to end the track segment on power off/on.

 

Also, as you can see on the shots, it does appear that multiple tracks are visible. Your FAQ says this is an issue that should be fixed (unless I'm not understanding the description). Seems to work fine on my version... 2.30/2.60.

 

I think Anders and Timpat explained this below, but let me clarify. There is option to Archive (aka Save) a track manually (see the FAQ under Tracks). As Timpat points out there isn't any way to see these saved tracks at the same time on the map. As you point out you can see all of the tracks in the current tracklog on the map at the same time.

 

GO$Rs

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When that happens again can you quick click the power button to get to the summary screen and see what the time is? Is it significantly off?

 

g-o... checked it this morning and it behaved normally instead of not finding sats. However, I did check the time before it acquired a sat lock and it was showing the time from when I switched it off last night. Since it does this when it is hunting sats normally, I'd assume it's the same behavior when it gets in it's strange "blind" mode that I posted about earlier.

 

Sounds like you are seeing a problem described by other Colorado owners, which probably means returning the Colorado for a replacement. I would talk to tech support about it (and let us know what they have to say!) One thing that would be helpful is if there is a simple test that people could run to determine if their Colorado has the problem (or serial number range, etc).

 

GO$Rs

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There is option to Archive (aka Save) a track manually (see the FAQ under Tracks). As Timpat points out there isn't any way to see these saved tracks at the same time on the map. As you point out you can see all of the tracks in the current tracklog on the map at the same time.

GO$Rs

The screen shot here is of my Map60Cx map page showing a few of my "saved tracks" that I captured while hiking, then assigned separate colors to each in MapSource, and loaded them as tracks, or which we can have 20.

 

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There is a Blue, a Yellow, and two Red trail "tracks", as well as the Green "track" that is a forest preserve parcel boundary (I can convert a parcel GIS shapefile to a .gpx file track. Cool stuff) loaded as a "track". When I select "Show on Map" on my 60Cx this is what I see. The Colorado should have this same capability, in my opinion. In both my 60Cx and 300 I can select a single track and "Go To" and see the single track on the map page, but on the 300 it displays as a light blue line. My 60Cx displays the color I assigned in MapSource.

 

This simple track feature is something I really would like to have. Garmin, are you listening? While I have your ear, why can't we now keep more than 20 saved tracks on the vast memory of the Colorado? Why not 100, or more? I have emailed Garmin techsupp several times with my observations and suggestions by the way. If I get responses I will pass on any news.

 

As always, thank you g-o-cashers for maintaining this FAQ and Issues listing!

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The screen shot here is of my Map60Cx map page showing a few of my "saved tracks" that I captured while hiking, then assigned separate colors to each in MapSource, and loaded them as tracks, or which we can have 20.

 

60Cx_Tracks.jpg

 

This simple track feature is something I really would like to have. Garmin, are you listening? While I have your ear, why can't we now keep more than 20 saved tracks on the vast memory of the Colorado? Why not 100, or more? I have emailed Garmin techsupp several times with my observations and suggestions by the way. If I get responses I will pass on any news.

 

I use that feature when I ski with my GPSr. I start a new track each day, assign it a color, and save it off with the location and date at the end of the day. I like to overlay them on the screen so I can see where I haven't been yet, what trails I already hit yesterday, and don't want to repeat yet, and so forth. It's a very useful feature.

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I checked on my way home. I can access each individual saved track, set it to "Show on map", and it will then indeed show up, together with the active track and whatever else, on the main map screen. But you can't set any specific color. The saved track became cyan, while the active is black.

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That's good news. I can live without the color distinction for a while.

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I have a feeling that if you send the tracks from Mapsource, then they'll keep the color you give them on the PC. No help in the field, but if you have time to prepare.

I'm not sure about this, though. Maybe I'm mixing it up with some other unit. I'll have to check that better later.

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I have a feeling that if you send the tracks from Mapsource, then they'll keep the color you give them on the PC. No help in the field, but if you have time to prepare.

I'm not sure about this, though. Maybe I'm mixing it up with some other unit. I'll have to check that better later.

 

I tried this the other day and the tracks still showed up as black lines, no color.

 

GO$Rs

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I checked on my way home. I can access each individual saved track, set it to "Show on map", and it will then indeed show up, together with the active track and whatever else, on the main map screen. But you can't set any specific color. The saved track became cyan, while the active is black.

 

I'm pretty sure with 2.3/2.6 that this isn't the case. Or even if it was there wasn't anyway to view multiple saved tracks at the same time -- maybe active and one saved track worked -- I'll have to check again.

 

GO$Rs

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I checked on my way home. I can access each individual saved track, set it to "Show on map", and it will then indeed show up, together with the active track and whatever else, on the main map screen. But you can't set any specific color. The saved track became cyan, while the active is black.

Anders, while this true, you still can not see saved tracks as shown on my screen shot in the earlier post. Yes, if you access a single individual track, it will be shown with cyan color as you describe. Please try now to turn on your Colorado and pan on the map screen to where your "saved track" is. It will not be visible. At least my 300 acts this way.

 

I have 20 saved tracks (because my 60Cx limits me to this amount, or I'd have more) on my 60Cx and when I choose to have them all "show on map" they are ALL visible on the map page. If I had 20 saved tracks in a small enough area to view them all together, they would all be seen displayed, not just one single cyan track.

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When that happens again can you quick click the power button to get to the summary screen and see what the time is? Is it significantly off?

 

g-o... checked it this morning and it behaved normally instead of not finding sats. However, I did check the time before it acquired a sat lock and it was showing the time from when I switched it off last night. Since it does this when it is hunting sats normally, I'd assume it's the same behavior when it gets in it's strange "blind" mode that I posted about earlier.

 

Sounds like you are seeing a problem described by other Colorado owners, which probably means returning the Colorado for a replacement. I would talk to tech support about it (and let us know what they have to say!) One thing that would be helpful is if there is a simple test that people could run to determine if their Colorado has the problem (or serial number range, etc).

 

GO$Rs

 

I may be off a little here but wouldn't a simple test be to set the alarm clock for a time a few hours in the future? If it goes off on time then the internal clock is keeping time correctly. Would this problem manifest itself in a test such as this or not?

 

One thing to remember about the alarm clock is that if you want an audible tone to wake you or alert you, you need to make sure that the sounds are set to ON before you shut down the unit. If not, the unit will turn on and not make a sound. I found out the hard way yesterday (overslept). ;)

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Hello,

 

I was asked to test the routing engine on the City Navigator Europe V9 and found out, that the settings

 

"On The Road For Time" and "Avoid Highways"

"On The Road For Time" and "Avoid off"

"On The Road For Distance"

 

produce the same guidance result. Allways at the first opportunity the next "Autobahn", highway in german, was selected. This is for us a big issue.

 

Can other european Colorado users confirm this?

 

- Volkmar

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JEEESUSSS!! and I thought the SatMap A10 was plagued with issues!

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I was wondering, is it just me or does the GUI on the Colorado seem like it would work alot better and just maybe it's more ment for a touchscreen type application. All the pull down menus and having to really look through all the menus just to move from one page to another. To me it just seems like more of a touch screen type interface.

 

I really wouldn't want a touchscreen on a handheld GPS anyways just because of when I put it in my pocket.

I'm just courious if it's just me since I work on a lot of Crestron, AMX, Pronto, and other touchscreen type remotes.

yes, for touchscreen

http://www8.garmin.com/nuvifone/

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All right, so now I've verified how it works.

 

The active track is always black. You can turn it on or off in the regular map view.

 

A saved track is always cyan, no matter where it comes from. You can turn the display of the track on or off as you like. However, only one single saved track can be visible at the same time. If you select to view another, this automatically deselects the track you selected previously.

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All right, so now I've verified how it works.

 

The active track is always black. You can turn it on or off in the regular map view.

 

A saved track is always cyan, no matter where it comes from. You can turn the display of the track on or off as you like. However, only one single saved track can be visible at the same time. If you select to view another, this automatically deselects the track you selected previously.

Yes, thank you. Now, since you have Garmin's respect and ear, do you think they could enable all saved tracks to be visible concurrently and give the ability to assign different colors to tracks with a firmware update? And here's a huge request so don't laugh please, can they allow many (or a hundred?) saved tracks to be present in the vast memory of our Colorado's? I have emailed Techsupp with these ideas and they replied with a polite, "We appreciate the feedback, I have forwarded your email to our Software

Engineers for a future update". So, it can't hurt to ask.

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