Did someone duplicate my TB tag ?

January 18, 2008

This is a newer TB and was released in Idaho by me and my six year old daughter. My brother easternoregontraveler went on a trip to Mexico so I handed him my TB ( Reference #TB1RMCH ) Before he dropped my TB it was discovered in Paris and I thought it was a mistake Until a few day's later windwizard grabbed it so I finally contacted my brother and he said he had dropped the TB just a few hours before me contacting him and I told him someone grabbed it the day before in Paris so he checked online and all the numbers match up so I told him not to log it until we get this figured out.I have the copy in my hand and have not gave it to nobody or placed it anywhere and the # matches with with the one my brother wrote down also.The real bug is sitting in Mexico not Logged in and when it gets picked up it will be interesting to watch what happens to RASHELLS TWEETY. Also it was dropped off today by windwizard in Germany HUUUMMMMMMM.

22k · January 18, 2008

Tracking numbers can be close and there can be the possibility of simply not getting one of the numbers right, thereby pulling another bug by mistake. That might be why the numbers 'match'.

I'd like to know what cache windwizard found and which bug was listed in it.

Edited January 18, 2008 by BlueDeuce

January 18, 2008

This is a newer TB and was released in Idaho by me and my six year old daughter. My brother easternoregontraveler went on a trip to Mexico so I handed him my TB ( Reference #TB1RMCH ) Before he dropped my TB it was discovered in Paris and I thought it was a mistake Until a few day's later windwizard grabbed it so I finally contacted my brother and he said he had dropped the TB just a few hours before me contacting him and I told him someone grabbed it the day before in Paris so he checked online and all the numbers match up so I told him not to log it until we get this figured out.I have the copy in my hand and have not gave it to nobody or placed it anywhere and the # matches with with the one my brother wrote down also.The real bug is sitting in Mexico not Logged in and when it gets picked up it will be interesting to watch what happens to RASHELLS TWEETY. Also it was dropped off today by windwizard in Germany HUUUMMMMMMM.

If you go to the tb ref # it will show what cache and 2 people have seen it over there I will post the cache ref # soon

22k · January 18, 2008

Okay, there's some info there but not the complete story. I've been up for 22 hours so I'm heading to bed. Keep investigating and I'll be back later.

January 18, 2008

I have tried all possible numbers or letters that could be close and come up with nothing It was discovered and the later picked up from GC15Q7X then dropped by ww in GC13egn. It is actually in GCPNF5 that my brother placed it in.

6.4k · January 18, 2008

The Lost Tunnel - Petite Ceinture de Paris" (GC15Q7X) FRANCE. Or so he/she wrote :lol:

January 18, 2008

The TB'S in the lost tunnel at the same time as mine or ? is red jeep TB1NVB0, FreddyIII TB155QY,

wind wizard's Golden Lizard TB1DXJF GEO COIN.

I AM A HE

January 18, 2008

This is a newer TB and was released in Idaho by me and my six year old daughter. My brother easternoregontraveler went on a trip to Mexico so I handed him my TB ( Reference #TB1RMCH ) Before he dropped my TB it was discovered in Paris and I thought it was a mistake Until a few day's later windwizard grabbed it so I finally contacted my brother and he said he had dropped the TB just a few hours before me contacting him and I told him someone grabbed it the day before in Paris so he checked online and all the numbers match up so I told him not to log it until we get this figured out.I have the copy in my hand and have not gave it to nobody or placed it anywhere and the # matches with with the one my brother wrote down also.The real bug is sitting in Mexico not Logged in and when it gets picked up it will be interesting to watch what happens to RASHELLS TWEETY. Also it was dropped off today by windwizard in Germany HUUUMMMMMMM.

I am trying to see if I can figure anything out. Does your TB's tracking number have a zero or O in it (don't post the number)?

One comment, if you would post a photo of your TB on the TB page, it might avoid some confusion so that finders can see what they were supposed to find.

January 18, 2008

this does not have a 0 the only thing close that could get messed up is a 6 and i have tried all close ways the numbers seem very clear and there has been no pictures

January 18, 2008

this does not have a 0 the only thing close that could get messed up is a 6 and i have tried all close ways the numbers seem very clear and there has been no pictures

Well, I would suggest contacting those two finders in Europe to see if they can describe the TB they found. If you don't hear from them, contact Groundspeak. It is unlikely, but perhaps two tags with the same number got created somehow.

It is still a good idea for you to post a picture of your TB on its page (a picture that does not show the tracking number on the tag).

Edited January 18, 2008 by UncleJimbo

8.8k · January 18, 2008

It could be dyslexia, or has anyone posted a photo anywhere showing the numbers? Maybe the cache owners can check on them for you?

January 18, 2008

also I was told there is no tweety bird item attached to this tb.

January 18, 2008

the cache writing is in a different language if I contact the owner of the cache it is in now does it translate on the cache page for them or email that i have sent

January 18, 2008

the cache writing is in a different language if I contact the owner of the cache it is in now does it translate on the cache page for them or email that i have sent

Don't contact the cache owner. Contact the two finders. They posted logs in English, so they probably can read English, perhaps with the help of an online translation web site. Send your message in English, but keep it fairly simple so they can understand.

I just looked, and at least one of these finders, bjm26186, is from Colorado. The other person, windwizard, is from Germany.

Edited January 18, 2008 by UncleJimbo

January 18, 2008

I have contacted ground speak 3 day's ago and have had no reply as of yet I am just worried some one is going to pick it up in Mexico. I have contacted the two people in Paris and one says it is not a tweety bird and the other has not responed to any of my emails

January 18, 2008

I have contacted ground speak 3 day's ago and have had no reply as of yet I am just worried some one is going to pick it up in Mexico. I have contacted the two people in Paris and one says it is not a tweety bird and the other has not responed to any of my emails

Well, now that Eartha has replied in this thread, you have kind of contacted Groundspeak. :lol:

Not sure what else to suggest. You can always have your friend in Mexico grab back the TB and "drop" it again where it should be. You can also delete the logs from Europe. But these things will not resolve the problem from happening again unless you can figure out what is really going on.

January 18, 2008

My brother is the one that placed it in Mexico and is now back in Oregon.I sure wish I was able to go grab it though.

January 18, 2008

My brother is the one that placed it in Mexico and is now back in Oregon.I sure wish I was able to go grab it though.

I notice that in that cache in France, a geocacher named u_man posted in his log "IN : TB Dino". However, in his profile I cannot find any TB named Dino. Perhaps the TB in Europe that is being mistaken for yours is this "TB Dino"?

January 18, 2008

My brother is the one that placed it in Mexico and is now back in Oregon.I sure wish I was able to go grab it though.

I notice that in that cache in France, a geocacher named u_man posted in his log "IN : TB Dino". However, in his profile I cannot find any TB named Dino. Perhaps the TB in Europe that is being mistaken for yours is this "TB Dino"?

I have contacted this person and have explained everything to him and have asked about the dino tb because i can not find any record of it.I will check back on this It is my kids 7th birthday so I have to get stuff for her school.THANKS FOR THE HELP SO FAR

22k · January 18, 2008

I think if we can get a description of the European bug we can probably find it still listed in another cache. From there we can find the owner and have them clarify the tracking number listed on the Bug page.

Perhaps when the bug is picked up we can get assistance from that finder.

Also it wouldn't hurt to contact bjm26186 and ask him to describe it.

January 18, 2008

My brother is the one that placed it in Mexico and is now back in Oregon.I sure wish I was able to go grab it though.

You don't have to physically "grab" it in Mexico. As the TB owner, you have control over your TB page. Once this is figured out, you can make sure it is listed where it should be.

8.8k · January 18, 2008

crabpod,

Send me your TB# (the one on the tag, the tracking #) and I'll see if I can make heads or tails of it. It is possible that there could have been an error in the manufacturing and two (well 4, counting the copies) tags got stamped with the same number. If that's the case, then Groundspeak has to fix it. I may not be able to get an answer until Monday, but send it to me via a PM or through my profile, and I'll see what I can do for you.

Eartha

Groundspeak Volunteer

8.8k · January 18, 2008

Oh, in the meantime, post a note on your TB page, and the cache page, and ask whoever grabs the one that is supposed to be yours next, to hold it until this can be straightened out.

January 18, 2008

I think if we can get a description of the European bug we can probably find it still listed in another cache. From there we can find the owner and have them clarify the tracking number listed on the Bug page.

Perhaps when the bug is picked up we can get assistance from that finder.

Also it wouldn't hurt to contact bjm26186 and ask him to describe it.

I have contacted the cache owner of lost tunnel that dropped the dino TB and I have also contacted bjm and windwizard and the owner of the cache in Germany were it shows the bug is now but I dont know if she can read it. I hope someone will tell me what item the tb is attached to and as soon as I find out I will post it also everyone I have emailed I have explained what is going on and apologized for any inconvenience and told them it is on the forum under travelbugs.

22k · January 18, 2008

Ok, good.

January 18, 2008

I have sent info to Eartha and will post notes on MY TB page to hold it and cache in Mexico.

I hope the other ones that have seen this will visit the forum I have told them all it is here.

January 18, 2008

Windwizard has grabbed the tb in Germany the other is in mexico and I have posted notes for someone to grab it I still havnt found out what item is on it but I just emailed windwizard to find out

January 22, 2008

OK I have both travel bugs picked up and a hold on them and the numbers seem to match 1 was grabbed in Mexico and the other was grabbed in Germany and I have one of the copies and I wonder who has the other one. :unsure:

January 22, 2008

I always wondered if something like this could happen.

Hope it all gets resolved.

I'll be watching this thread out of interest.

January 22, 2008

I just had another person discover the one that was in Mexico and the one that is on hold in Germany is a little beaver with a Chinese hat and a rocket so I will try and check Tbs in France to see if I can find one that Matches this description.

January 23, 2008

Did someone duplicate my TB tag ? YES they did and I figured out how finally. Someone purchased some TBs and they could not get one of them to activate right.This one had the same numbers as mine so Groundspeak sent them another set to replace it. When they went on a trip to Paris the duplicated set was dropped by mistake.

This person offered to send the copy to me and I told him just to scratch some of the numbers off or destroy it.

I also contacted the person with the TB in Germany and asked them to do the same. I will contact the person that has my TB and let them know it is ok to release it and we will keep a eye out to see if this fixes the problem.This does go to show nothing or nobody is perfect not even Groundspeak LOL :?) :yikes:

January 23, 2008

Has anyone ever heard of this happening or is this a real rare thing to happen.

22k · January 23, 2008

First time I've ever heard of it. Thankfully.

Good work by the way.

1.2k · January 23, 2008

Has anyone ever heard of this happening or is this a real rare thing to happen.

Yeah, it happened abouta three months ago with some geofriends in the area. They tried to activate thier tag only to find someone had already activated "their" number. They contacted Groundspeak, explained the problem and were sent new tags with a couple days...

22k · January 23, 2008

Has anyone ever heard of this happening or is this a real rare thing to happen.

Yeah, it happened abouta three months ago with some geofriends in the area. They tried to activate thier tag only to find someone had already activated "their" number. They contacted Groundspeak, explained the problem and were sent new tags with a couple days...

Was that because of duplicate tags or the other person activating the wrong tracking number?

January 23, 2008

Has anyone ever heard of this happening or is this a real rare thing to happen.

Yeah, it happened abouta three months ago with some geofriends in the area. They tried to activate thier tag only to find someone had already activated "their" number. They contacted Groundspeak, explained the problem and were sent new tags with a couple days...

Was that because of duplicate tags or the other person activating the wrong tracking number?

Mine was because of Duplicate tags there is 4 tags with the same Numbers my Tb did have 72 miles on it before it went to Mexico and has over ten thousand miles and it is in Canada now so it will get some more fast.

22k · January 23, 2008

Mine was because of Duplicate tags there is 4 tags with the same Numbers my Tb did have 72 miles on it before it went to Mexico and has over ten thousand miles and it is in Canada now so it will get some more fast.

I hear ya, and I'm glad you got it figured out. Bugs have a hard enough time out there without adding in some tag production snafu.

Some people might have thrown up their hands and said forget it.

I have no doubt you handle other people's bug with care and concern.

Edit: Oh by the way I'll be sending you an email.

Edited January 23, 2008 by BlueDeuce

January 23, 2008

I am now trying to find out when the other person purchased theres. If it was after mine I could see why they couldn't get theres to work right and if it was before did the maker consider it destroyed and made a new one or ???

January 23, 2008

WOW this might be a fun TB if I get the one in Germany to release it again and I would make sure I post notes that you will have to grab it sometimes just imagine the miles it can get LOL and then try and get them to unite I am emailing Germany to see if he still has it.

22k · January 23, 2008

I am now trying to find out when the other person purchased theres. If it was after mine I could see why they couldn't get theres to work right and if it was before did the maker consider it destroyed and made a new one or ???

Yep, one of the things I want to address on email in addition to what happens to the finders stats should the logs be corrected.

WOW this might be a fun TB if I get the one in Germany to release it again and I would make sure I post notes that you will have to grab it sometimes just imagine the miles it can get LOL and then try and get them to unite I am emailing Germany to see if he still has it.

Ah yes, but duplicate TBs get locked down. Best to get it fixed. :yikes:

Edit: Wish I could get four copy tags for one TB! :yikes:

Edited January 23, 2008 by BlueDeuce

January 23, 2008

I am now trying to find out when the other person purchased theres. If it was after mine I could see why they couldn't get theres to work right and if it was before did the maker consider it destroyed and made a new one or ???

Yep, one of the things I want to address on email in addition to what happens to the finders stats should the logs be corrected.

WOW this might be a fun TB if I get the one in Germany to release it again and I would make sure I post notes that you will have to grab it sometimes just imagine the miles it can get LOL and then try and get them to unite I am emailing Germany to see if he still has it.

Ah yes, but duplicate TBs get locked down. Best to get it fixed.

Does Groundspeak do this and then nobody could log it then.

Edit: Wish I could get four copy tags for one TB!

January 24, 2008

what do you think of putting A copy out after the original has been gone a long time.

I was shocked on a tb to find a copy on it a few years ago and it didnt seem right

22k · January 24, 2008

what do you think of putting A copy out after the original has been gone a long time.

I was shocked on a tb to find a copy on it a few years ago and it didnt seem right

Nah, that's one of the best things about travel bugs.

Edited January 24, 2008 by BlueDeuce

1.2k · January 24, 2008

Has anyone ever heard of this happening or is this a real rare thing to happen.

Yeah, it happened abouta three months ago with some geofriends in the area. They tried to activate thier tag only to find someone had already activated "their" number. They contacted Groundspeak, explained the problem and were sent new tags with a couple days...

Was that because of duplicate tags or the other person activating the wrong tracking number?

Duplicates...

January 24, 2008

Has anyone ever heard of this happening or is this a real rare thing to happen.

Yeah, it happened abouta three months ago with some geofriends in the area. They tried to activate thier tag only to find someone had already activated "their" number. They contacted Groundspeak, explained the problem and were sent new tags with a couple days...

Was that because of duplicate tags or the other person activating the wrong tracking number?

Duplicates...

Yes this TB has had a duplicate set made and should have been destroyed but was released by mistake

I just had a reply from Groundspeak and they said they thought it was a type error so I sent them a email

back and explained it all to them.I will post my next response from them when I get it.

January 21, 2009

Yesterday my daughter turned 8 and her first present she opend was her Rashells Tweety TB and boy did she scream with Glee.

Her second present was the Chinese Beaver Duplicated TB and she and me both could not believe it until we had them both in our hands and they are identical TB's.

I also have the one copy so i have three TB tags now.

This was the best way to start off my daughters Birthday.

Soon she will decide what to do with the TB.

We will also post photos soon.

Thanks to all who helped get them home.

Did someone duplicate my TB tag ?

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