+waterwitch2 Posted January 7, 2008 Posted January 7, 2008 Does anyone know of a good ballpoint pen that works on all types of paper? I seem to have problems sometimes signing certain types of paper. Quote
+Miragee Posted January 7, 2008 Posted January 7, 2008 The "Space Pen" works very well. I believe they sell those at Office Depot or Staples. However, since they are a bit pricey, you don't want to leave it in the cache . . . I use the little pocket-size Pilot pens. They work on all but the soggiest of paper. They are cheap enough that if I lose it or leave it behind, I'm not too upset about it. I just get out another one from the four-pack I bought. Quote
+briansnat Posted January 7, 2008 Posted January 7, 2008 Fisher Space Pen works well if you don't mind spending $8 on a pen. Quote
+Rattlebars Posted January 7, 2008 Posted January 7, 2008 I use a gel pen, specifically, a 4 inch short Pilot G-2 Mini retractable. Walmart in packs of four blue/red/green/black. Quote
+StarBrand Posted January 7, 2008 Posted January 7, 2008 I use the Uniball Power tank pens. They go for about $2 each but have pressurized ink that works on wet paper, unside down and in the cold. Much like the fisher space pens. Rite-in-the Rain also makes a nice pressurized pen. Quote
+The Jester Posted January 7, 2008 Posted January 7, 2008 I use a couple of different pens. My normal one is a Zebra F-301 mainly because it has a very fine point, making writing on those little log sheets easier (I can write two line on the blinkie nano cache logs). I also have a "space pen" in the kit for those times the log is soaked. Quote
+fairyhoney Posted January 7, 2008 Posted January 7, 2008 I use a gel pen, myself. Of course, If you happen upon a damp log, well, I don't know what would work Quote
+Indotguy Posted January 7, 2008 Posted January 7, 2008 I never leave home without my Space Pen. They will write on anything (including damp logs) and the ink cartridge last for years. Quote
+fairyhoney Posted January 7, 2008 Posted January 7, 2008 I never leave home without my Space Pen. They will write on anything (including damp logs) and the ink cartridge last for years. Cool. Will have to look into possibly getting one. Quote
+joranda Posted January 7, 2008 Posted January 7, 2008 I like gel pens too, but will have to look into the space pen. Quote
+sbell111 Posted January 7, 2008 Posted January 7, 2008 I hate gel pens (which has caused some grief for my assistant over the years), but I keep one in the Jeep to use while caching because they will write on damp paper without tearing it. Quote
+Vinny & Sue Team Posted January 7, 2008 Posted January 7, 2008 Does anyone know of a good ballpoint pen that works on all types of paper? I seem to have problems sometimes signing certain types of paper. I am very glad that you asked this question! It is most timely! We have a firm rule -- stated clearly and explicitly on each of our cache listing pages -- that finds will not be valid and will not be accepted unless the finder signed the logbook with an Aurora 85th Anniversary Limited Edition Red Marble Fountain Pen Fine Nib pen. One of several worldwide vendors who stock the pen is Montgomery Pens; and another is is the elite pen vendor Paradise Pen. Yes, it is entirely true that the pen lists for over $1,500 and retails for over $1,200 street price, but we invest a lot of effort and pride in our caches, and we expect only the highest caliber of top-drawer elite cachers to find our caches and to attempt to log finds on them, and if they cannot do it with a very large measure of sacred respect and holy reverence, frankly, we do not want their finds! Incidentally, one reason that we have chosen the fine Aurora pen as the required pen is that its inner barrel cartridge is impregnated with millions of acrylic microdots (which infuse the ink) containing information on the manufacturer and model of the pen, along with a validation number, to allow certification and validation of entries made with the pen. Thus, via UV-VIS-NIR spectrophotometric microscopic analysis of the ink used for an entry found in the logbook, we can instantly determine if a log entry was truly signed with the required Aurora pen. Quote
+cerberus1 Posted January 7, 2008 Posted January 7, 2008 I have a Fisher space pen (bullet type) . Very small, fits in your pants pocket easily. I don't lose it that way. On the very low end , we've found that Pilot's G-2 and Uni ball's Signo (both rollerball gels) write on any paper, even wet. One problem with the gel pens is, in cold weather, you'll have to let the log "air dry" a bit before putting it back or it'll smear. Yet my favorite is STILL a fine-point Sharpie. Quote
+Hobo2 Posted January 7, 2008 Posted January 7, 2008 (edited) Does anyone know of a good ballpoint pen that works on all types of paper? I seem to have problems sometimes signing certain types of paper. It depends on the location/elevation of your cache, but pens around me freeze and explode in caches, causing ink to come out all over everything… including your hands. A pencil will never freeze and most cachers carry a knife to sharpen it if need be. I go to stationary stores and get some bright colored pencils... just to spruce up the cache a bit. But pencils aren’t very good for writing on wet paper, so I guess we can’t have it both ways. I prefer to make sure my cache is water tight, and then supply a couple of sharp pencils. Edited January 7, 2008 by Hobo2 Quote
+Renegade Knight Posted January 7, 2008 Posted January 7, 2008 I use the Uniball Power tank pens. They go for about $2 each but have pressurized ink that works on wet paper, unside down and in the cold. Much like the fisher space pens. Rite-in-the Rain also makes a nice pressurized pen. This is the best bang for the buck. I've ran trials. Gel Pens write on the wetest paper but the ink runs. The Power Tank will write on damp paper and the ink doesn't run. Sharpies also work and may work better if the paper is so wet that it falls apart from the effort of writing. They won't wrinte quite as well on wet, but they get the job done without ripping the paper. Pencils don't run (though some have said they do...go figure) and write when it's 40 below. They suck on wet paper though. Quote
+Chance Explorers Posted January 17, 2008 Posted January 17, 2008 I use a Pilot G-2 Mini. No problems untill wet paper, but then what will write on wet paper? Quote
+Cav Scout Posted January 18, 2008 Posted January 18, 2008 I carry a pencil for when its to cold and the ink freezes, a ink pen for when its warm, and a ink stamp for wet logs. The best way to log a cache is a picture. Quote
+joranda Posted January 18, 2008 Posted January 18, 2008 I use a Pilot G-2 Mini. No problems untill wet paper, but then what will write on wet paper? Gel pens will write on wet paper. Quote
+Pirates of Tuskegee Posted January 18, 2008 Posted January 18, 2008 My old caching partner had one of the space pens. Those things are great, and would write on anything wet or not. Then he up and moved to Texas, and now I find myself signing with anything I have handy. Quote
+waterwitch2 Posted January 18, 2008 Author Posted January 18, 2008 Thanks for the replies. I just picked up some Pilot G-2 Mini's and have used one for the last week and they seem to work well. I especially like their small size. Quote
+Blaidd-Drwg Posted January 18, 2008 Posted January 18, 2008 I use a gel pen, specifically, a 4 inch short Pilot G-2 Mini retractable. Walmart in packs of four blue/red/green/black. I agree with Rattlebars. I use the exact same thing. I keep a 4-pack in the dash of my Xterra just for geocaching. Quote
+TotemLake Posted January 18, 2008 Posted January 18, 2008 I ended up buying a Fisher Space Pen. Writes in any kind of weather on any dry or wet paper. Quote
+StarBrand Posted January 18, 2008 Posted January 18, 2008 I ended up buying a Fisher Space Pen. Writes in any kind of weather on any dry or wet paper. Much cheaper to get the Uniball powertank pens - about $2 each - pressurized ink writes on wet paper, down to 40 below and upside down. Quote
+Team Cotati Posted January 18, 2008 Posted January 18, 2008 A $0.20 Bic works really great. Even better are those free ones that you get at hotels. Quote
+egami Posted January 18, 2008 Posted January 18, 2008 Fisher Space Pen works well if you don't mind spending $8 on a pen. Wonder if those Rite in the Rain products would make good log books... Quote
+TotemLake Posted January 18, 2008 Posted January 18, 2008 Fisher Space Pen works well if you don't mind spending $8 on a pen. Wonder if those Rite in the Rain products would make good log books... I typically use Rite in the Rain notebooks. The Northwest is to harsh for standard notebooks. Quote
+egami Posted January 18, 2008 Posted January 18, 2008 Fisher Space Pen works well if you don't mind spending $8 on a pen. Wonder if those Rite in the Rain products would make good log books... I typically use Rite in the Rain notebooks. The Northwest is to harsh for standard notebooks. Tell me about it! I graduated from HS in Everwet! I may have to get some of those for my future caches. You actually place them in caches then and field tested? Quote
+StarBrand Posted January 18, 2008 Posted January 18, 2008 Fisher Space Pen works well if you don't mind spending $8 on a pen. Wonder if those Rite in the Rain products would make good log books... I typically use Rite in the Rain notebooks. The Northwest is to harsh for standard notebooks. Tell me about it! I graduated from HS in Everwet! I may have to get some of those for my future caches. You actually place them in caches then and field tested? I used them exclusively in my first 30 cache hides. Great notebook and stood up well over the year's. Just too expensive in the long run though. As I replace the original logs I am using cheap 20 cent each notebooks. Quote
+Renegade Knight Posted January 18, 2008 Posted January 18, 2008 Fisher Space Pen works well if you don't mind spending $8 on a pen. Wonder if those Rite in the Rain products would make good log books... They work well unless your log will be wet and remain wet. They don't hold up then. Quote
+asromzek Posted January 18, 2008 Posted January 18, 2008 I have a black felt pen that seems to do the job well, not sure how badly it will bleed on a wet log... Maybe I should save up for a better pen Quote
+egami Posted January 18, 2008 Posted January 18, 2008 Fisher Space Pen works well if you don't mind spending $8 on a pen. Wonder if those Rite in the Rain products would make good log books... They work well unless your log will be wet and remain wet. They don't hold up then. But ok, that's an issue with any log...so, outside of that, are they worth the extra $$$ in your mind? Quote
+paleolith Posted January 18, 2008 Posted January 18, 2008 I use mini-gel pens, Staples brand. I can't say how they act under adverse conditions, but they are small enough and cheap enough (about 12/$4) that I can carry a handful and replace dead pens and leave them even in small (though not micro) caches where there was previously no writing implement in the cache. They are capped, which should provide a little (though not total) protection from leakage. The cap reverses to make the pen longer and easier to hold while writing. A lot of my log entries say "took a picture, left this pen". Edward Quote
+eagletrek Posted January 18, 2008 Posted January 18, 2008 Plain ole' Parker with a Fischer Space Pen refill. It will sign on most anything to include soaked logs. Quote
+TotemLake Posted January 18, 2008 Posted January 18, 2008 Fisher Space Pen works well if you don't mind spending $8 on a pen. Wonder if those Rite in the Rain products would make good log books... I typically use Rite in the Rain notebooks. The Northwest is to harsh for standard notebooks. Tell me about it! I graduated from HS in Everwet! I may have to get some of those for my future caches. You actually place them in caches then and field tested? When I first started caching, most caches around here had them. I was quite impressed with their ability to hold the ink and not tear. Couple that with a pressurized pen or pencil (yes it will write when wet) and you're golden. Quote
+Renegade Knight Posted January 18, 2008 Posted January 18, 2008 They work well unless your log will be wet and remain wet. They don't hold up then. But ok, that's an issue with any log...so, outside of that, are they worth the extra $$$ in your mind? In a cache? No. The photo's posted on this site some time ago showed that they actually deteriorate worse than standard paper if kept wet. For use as an all weather notebook. Yes they work well. If I knew my cache was going to be wet all the time I'd make a logbook out of Adventure Paper. Quote
+TJ Willy Posted January 18, 2008 Posted January 18, 2008 (edited) I use THIS exact pen. Works great - I probably would not have bought it the first time but after having received one as a gift, I would buy another. Edited January 18, 2008 by TJ Willy Quote
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