+blb9556 Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 Look at this cache (Visit link) No one has attempted it in a year and the owner hasn't logged on in a very long time. Should this be archived? Quote Link to comment
+StarBrand Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 Ask the last finder to check on it. If it is still there then no. Have you emailed the owner? several times? via the geocaching web site? Quote Link to comment
+Team Cotati Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 Look at this cache (Visit link) No one has attempted it in a year and the owner hasn't logged on in a very long time. Should this be archived? Is this cache preventing you from placing a cache? Quote Link to comment
+Anonymous' Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 Have you even attempted finding the cache? Quote Link to comment
+trainlove Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 Is it possible that the owner has multiple other geocaching accounts and is on all the time but never as 'who he was' when he created that cache? Quote Link to comment
+Renegade Knight Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 Look at this cache (Visit link) No one has attempted it in a year and the owner hasn't logged on in a very long time. Should this be archived? Neither issue presented is a problem by itself. Taken together they are still not a problem. If the cache is missing and the owner won't fix it in the due course of time then yes. Until it's confirmed missing though, there isn't a problem. Quote Link to comment
+Vinny & Sue Team Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 (edited) Look at this cache (Visit link) No one has attempted it in a year and the owner hasn't logged on in a very long time. Should this be archived? Much as Renegade Knight has already said, neither point which you raise is at all a problem or even a minor issue in and of itself, nor do the two facts together comprise a problem or even a minor issue. My radar is telling me that there is likely WAAAY more here than meets the eye! So, let me ask you, since you have not yet disclosed it to us: What is your interest in this matter? What is your agenda? I also notice that you have only twenty finds on your account to date. Since the cache in question is a Difficulty 5 puzzle cache, it might be better for you to wait until you have at least a hundred finds and a number of less-difficult puzzles under your belt before you attempt to tackle this cache. Lastly, the title of your thread is misleading, it gives an entirely incorrect impression of the cache and its find history. It is not at all true that no one has found this cache. And, in any case, some of the best caches, particularly those with high D/T ratings and/or those located in remote areas, only see one or two finds a year at most, and sometimes far fewer than that. Edited December 19, 2007 by Vinny & Sue Team Quote Link to comment
+Semper Questio Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 It's a D5 puzzle. As a rule, those don't get hit a lot after the initial rush by puzzlers. As others have said...until other factors come into play, this is a non-issue. Quote Link to comment
knowschad Posted December 20, 2007 Share Posted December 20, 2007 I don't totally disagree with the OP here. At least, I do think that it would not be unfair to email the owner. The last two posters said that the cache had water in it, and yet it hasn't been maintained (OK... yeah, that does happen even with many active hiders, but it is a point to consider) , the last finder reported muggles nearby and others have mentioned problems in the past with that park. Of course, the time elapsed since the last find is totally irrelevant unless there have been a number of DNFs since then. Quote Link to comment
+blb9556 Posted December 20, 2007 Author Share Posted December 20, 2007 Have you even attempted finding the cache? I tried the cache but had to ask the owner a question but got no response. Another post said that it was a 5 star cache, it is but I have the cords for this 4 star cache (Visit link) Quote Link to comment
+BiT Posted December 20, 2007 Share Posted December 20, 2007 (edited) If you are down the street in Dublin, come up to Delaware and look at my puzzles. Edited December 20, 2007 by BiT Quote Link to comment
+PhxChem Posted December 20, 2007 Share Posted December 20, 2007 There's also a number of transformations you will need to do, including: Hexidecimal to Decimal Decimal to Binary Decimal to ASCII ROT13 conversion And that's not all of it. Maybe it get slow traffic because, oh....I don't know...you need a PhD to figure it out? Actually, I do have a PhD and I'm still not going to attempt it.... Quote Link to comment
+joranda Posted December 20, 2007 Share Posted December 20, 2007 I have one in my area that has been missing for a long time and it's still posted and the person isn't a active cacher. Quote Link to comment
+briansnat Posted December 20, 2007 Share Posted December 20, 2007 I have one in my area that has been missing for a long time and it's still posted and the person isn't a active cacher. Different story totally. If it's confirmed missing and the owner isn't active, a "needs archived" log is in order. As for the cache that the OP referred to, I agree with the others that it's a non issue until it's confirmed missing. Quote Link to comment
+wesleykey Posted December 20, 2007 Share Posted December 20, 2007 I have had two different caches that went 12 months+ with no logs. I eventually archived one. However, I intend to maintain the other indefinitely as I use this waypoint to center PQs around. Folks do a lot of things with caches. My in-laws live in the middle of a national forest and getting lost is easy. I hid a cache near their house so I can always find my way back out of the woods by auto routing to that cache. When viewed from this perspective, no a cache with no finds ever whose owner never logs in should not be archived. Only if there are permission issues or many DNFs and the owner won't check and verify the cache should one be archived. Quote Link to comment
+Team Cotati Posted December 20, 2007 Share Posted December 20, 2007 I have had two different caches that went 12 months+ with no logs. I eventually archived one. However, I intend to maintain the other indefinitely as I use this waypoint to center PQs around. Folks do a lot of things with caches. My in-laws live in the middle of a national forest and getting lost is easy. I hid a cache near their house so I can always find my way back out of the woods by auto routing to that cache. When viewed from this perspective, no a cache with no finds ever whose owner never logs in should not be archived. Only if there are permission issues or many DNFs and the owner won't check and verify the cache should one be archived. That's very interesting. I have managed to accomplishment the same thing by setting a waypoint in my good ole Meridian Gold. That feature comes in real handy when you don't happen to have a cache container in your hip pocket. Quote Link to comment
+Too Tall John Posted December 20, 2007 Share Posted December 20, 2007 I have had two different caches that went 12 months+ with no logs. I eventually archived one. However, I intend to maintain the other indefinitely as I use this waypoint to center PQs around. Folks do a lot of things with caches. My in-laws live in the middle of a national forest and getting lost is easy. I hid a cache near their house so I can always find my way back out of the woods by auto routing to that cache. When viewed from this perspective, no a cache with no finds ever whose owner never logs in should not be archived. Only if there are permission issues or many DNFs and the owner won't check and verify the cache should one be archived.That's very interesting. I have managed to accomplishment the same thing by setting a waypoint in my good ole Meridian Gold. That feature comes in real handy when you don't happen to have a cache container in your hip pocket. Even if you want to use a waypoint to center your PQ's on, I'm pretty sure you can do so on an archived cache, as the coords are still on the listing, which is still on the site. If the only reason for letting the listing stand is for PQ's, that seems a waste. I'll assume that your stated reason isn't the only one. Quote Link to comment
wolfbait Posted December 20, 2007 Share Posted December 20, 2007 Wow... If I were old enough to drive I'd try to go find that one. Its not that far and would make a wonderful day trip. Quote Link to comment
+wesleykey Posted December 20, 2007 Share Posted December 20, 2007 If the only reason for letting the listing stand is for PQ's, that seems a waste. I'll assume that your stated reason isn't the only one. But I'm also waiting for you to come find it. Quote Link to comment
Mr.Yuck Posted December 20, 2007 Share Posted December 20, 2007 (edited) Look at this cache (Visit link) No one has attempted it in a year and the owner hasn't logged on in a very long time. Should this be archived? No!! The cache was placed in 2004, and most of the locals with the ability to solve it have already been there. Take for example, MP#2, MP#3 and MP#5. All placed by the same person (in 04-05), in the same general area, no finders in well over a year. There's also a MP#1 and #4, but they've been found this year. No one I know of questions that they aren't there, or thinks they should be archived. But I'll give you that the owner in this case is not a fanatical geocacher, and hasn't logged in for over 6 months. But I'd give much more time before even thinking about archival. Edited December 20, 2007 by TheWhiteUrkel Quote Link to comment
+blb9556 Posted December 23, 2007 Author Share Posted December 23, 2007 Wow... If I were old enough to drive I'd try to go find that one. Its not that far and would make a wonderful day trip. Perhaps I should spend a few hours trying this one? Quote Link to comment
+joranda Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 I have one in my area that has been missing for a long time and it's still posted and the person isn't a active cacher. Well, it's archived now. Quote Link to comment
+vw_k Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 I wouldn't archive it. I actually like finding caches that have been undiscovered for a long time. Give someone that chance. It's much more fun than opening the logbook to discover someone has already been there that morning! Quote Link to comment
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