+Rattlebars Posted November 25, 2007 Posted November 25, 2007 Ok, ok. But I'm still incredulous. Less than six minutes per find for 69. But I will leave it to you and apologize for doubting your veracity. I found 12 in 2.5 hours which is 15 minutes between each and that was in our Mill Creek Park which has good density. Nowhere nearby do I have access to the kind of density and "difficulty" as the "Easy" series and what lies around them. Lucky you! It can be done. In fact Lep's record didn't stand very long. Two guys from Germany blew right by Lep's record of 240 a few months later and bagged 263. Another team found well over 300 but used questionable methods such as splitting the team up, so some people don't accept their record. I can't find the article written by the German regarding the record run and preparation, but it included a lot of pre-hunt planning, including eliminating high difficulty caches and those with recent DNFs and having a local plan the best route, taking into consideration traffic patterns and also having a local serve as a driver. The planning was extensive and took a couple of months. True, but that's still a "we" and not an "I" which means more than two eyes, two hands and two feet in the search. Not looking at "team" efforts according to the OP. Quote
+Robespierre Posted November 25, 2007 Posted November 25, 2007 Ok, ok. But I'm still incredulous. Less than six minutes per find for 69. But I will leave it to you and apologize for doubting your veracity. I found 12 in 2.5 hours which is 15 minutes between each and that was in our Mill Creek Park which has good density. Nowhere nearby do I have access to the kind of density and "difficulty" as the "Easy" series and what lies around them. Lucky you! It can be done. In fact Lep's record didn't stand very long. Two guys from Germany blew right by Lep's record of 240 a few months later and bagged 263. Another team found well over 300 but used questionable methods such as splitting the team up, so some people don't accept their record. I can't find the article written by the German regarding the record run and preparation, but it included a lot of pre-hunt planning, including eliminating high difficulty caches and those with recent DNFs and having a local plan the best route, taking into consideration traffic patterns and also having a local serve as a driver. The planning was extensive and took a couple of months. True, but that's still a "we" and not an "I" which means more than two eyes, two hands and two feet in the search. Not looking at "team" efforts according to the OP. Seems like the "community" is trying to be gracious...... you just won't let us??? You have to win on a technicality?? Quote
+jackrock Posted November 25, 2007 Posted November 25, 2007 1.how many geocaches have you found? 1283 2.how many geocaches have you hidden? 22 3.how many people do you know go geocaching with you? Frequently I go alone but I also like to cache with others and the number varies. 4.how many times have you gone on a long trip just for a geocache ^^ Once around 300 miles 5.how many geocaches have you found in just one day? 104 6.how many items have you traded? couldn't say 7.how many times have you gone geocaching with out a gps and found the geocache that you were looking for? Never Quote
+Team GPSaxophone Posted November 25, 2007 Posted November 25, 2007 Ok, ok. But I'm still incredulous. Less than six minutes per find for 69. But I will leave it to you and apologize for doubting your veracity. I found 12 in 2.5 hours which is 15 minutes between each and that was in our Mill Creek Park which has good density. Nowhere nearby do I have access to the kind of density and "difficulty" as the "Easy" series and what lies around them. Lucky you! It can be done. In fact Lep's record didn't stand very long. Two guys from Germany blew right by Lep's record of 240 a few months later and bagged 263. Another team found well over 300 but used questionable methods such as splitting the team up, so some people don't accept their record. I can't find the article written by the German regarding the record run and preparation, but it included a lot of pre-hunt planning, including eliminating high difficulty caches and those with recent DNFs and having a local plan the best route, taking into consideration traffic patterns and also having a local serve as a driver. The planning was extensive and took a couple of months. True, but that's still a "we" and not an "I" which means more than two eyes, two hands and two feet in the search. Not looking at "team" efforts according to the OP. I suppose just by having "Team" as part of my username I'm out too? Lots of people cache with someone else. Should their finds not count because they might not have spotted the cache before their partner? Does it only make a difference when finding more than 30 caches a day? The Leprechauns record run was well documented and I respect him a heck of a lot more than someone that wants to bash his finds just because he doesn't think it is possible. Anyway, on to my stats before I say something I shouldn't... 1.how many geocaches have you found? 1341 2.how many geocaches have you hidden? 50 3.how many people do you know go geocaching with you? Usually I bring the family, but I'll also go out with one or two others. 4.how many times have you gone on a long trip just for a geocache ^^ I took a 4500 mile road trip a couple of summers ago and a 2000 mile trip the year before that. Geocaching was the primary purpose on both. I've also taken many smaller trips just for geocaching. 5.how many geocaches have you found in just one day? I think my record is 24. 6.how many items have you traded? I let my kids do the trading. 7.how many times have you gone geocaching with out a gps and found the geocache that you were looking for? Rarely. I tend to download pocket queries and look for caches when I get close to them. I don't sit on the computer and try to figure out where they are ahead of time. Maybe that's why I never seem to solve puzzles. No, I'm just lousy at puzzles. Quote
+queen_ladybug Posted November 25, 2007 Posted November 25, 2007 1.how many geocaches have you found? 235 as of today - I am really due for a big cache run. I'm in a contest with a good caching buddy on who makes it to 499 first. We are right there together now. 2.how many geocaches have you hidden? 12, including events and archived 3.how many people do you know go geocaching with you? I am the leader of the Royal Bug Family and there are 6-7 of us depending on my nephew joining us. I frequently cache with any number of those as well as alone. I also have many local and out of town cachers I am good friends with and get to cache with often. I have actually cached with at least one person that has already posted in this thread (Hi Saxy!!) 4.how many times have you gone on a long trip just for a geocache ^^ I have not yet made a trip specifically to cache, but will soon. I do try to cache anytime I am ON a trip for work or pleasure. 5.how many geocaches have you found in just one day? My record is only 16, but if I have my way, I should shatter my puny record before the end of the year. 6.how many items have you traded? couldn't say 7.how many times have you gone geocaching with out a gps and found the geocache that you were looking for? My first 30-40 finds were without a GPS. I still like to put the GPS down once I get fairly close and look for possible hiding places. Quote
+TheAlabamaRambler Posted November 25, 2007 Posted November 25, 2007 This is OT from the OP, but since it is being questioned in this thread I will post here; a mod can move it please if it is deemed inappropriate. Here's an open invite to anyone who thinks 100+ cache finds in 24 hours is difficult - look me up anytime you're in central Alabama and we'll go do it! If you're going to GW6, let's hook up there and do it. It's not how anyone would want to cache all the time but for the occasional or once-in-a-lifetime fun 'stunt' it can be a real blast. I was in Nashville when Lep set his record and can tell you that it's absolutely legit, as can several well-respected cachers whose word is solid! Not that Lep's word needs verifying - if he says it you can take it as Gospel! On our questioned World Record Run attempt the weekend before GW4 in Dallas my team of three Americans and three Germans spent over two months selecting the target caches and planning the route. We contacted each cache owner and asked for permission to include their cache and to sign it with one team name, no one denied us, and we asked all cache owners to check their cache before we got there. We did not ask for hints or clues beyond what was on the cache listing, but we did read every listing carefully and made notes on what we thought we might be looking for. Then we had an experienced team member work closely with a local cacher to create an optimized route that included 360 1/1 type caches in MS Streets and Trips. We rented a 15-passenger van with doors on both sides, stocked it with food, water and electronics (four of us had Garmin 60 CSx, I don't remember what the other two used) and three laptops. One laptop in front for the Navigator, one in the center for the Runners to read aloud what we knew about the next cache, and one in the rear for the Scribe to record notes and finds. As the driver I rarely left the van, using the search time to study up on the route to the next cache with the Navigator. Everyone else rotated positions, with three runners (cache seekers) at all times, most often four when the Scribe ran to hunt as well. We had a 3-minute rule that we strictly followed. If the runners had not found the cache in 1 minute the Navigator joined the hunt making 5 searchers. If we hadn't found it in 3 minutes time was called and everyone returned to the van and we moved on. We stayed together from 9 a.m. Saturday to 9 a.m. Sunday except for one area; there were a combination of 18 caches, some on a walking trail the van could not go down, and some on a long bridge, so we sent three runners down the trail and three of us did the bridge caches. These 18 we split up for would turn out to cast scorn and criticism on our record. It was a mistake in planning and judgment that cost us the respect of many cachers concerning our Run. We therefore refer to it as our Record Attempt and let you decide its worthiness! Also, to save time we used Sharpies to sign our team name to the outside of most containers rather than open them and dig out the log book, and this too became a disastrous decision in the eyes of many. Still, what is relevant to this thread is that even though we don't for those reasons claim a World Record, we did go to, find and sign 312 caches (less 18 if you just count the ones we were together for) so 294 legitimate finds, AND we visited the site of but DNF 42 more, making 336 actual searches in that 24 hours! I did not log any of these caches since as the driver I only found a few, so you won't see them in my stats, but if you'd like I can email you the Streets & Trips route we mapped out so that you can see how it was done. Perhaps that explanation will help the incredulous understand how it can be done and allow us to return to the OP. Quote
+briansnat Posted November 25, 2007 Posted November 25, 2007 Ok, ok. But I'm still incredulous. Less than six minutes per find for 69. But I will leave it to you and apologize for doubting your veracity. I found 12 in 2.5 hours which is 15 minutes between each and that was in our Mill Creek Park which has good density. Nowhere nearby do I have access to the kind of density and "difficulty" as the "Easy" series and what lies around them. Lucky you! It can be done. In fact Lep's record didn't stand very long. Two guys from Germany blew right by Lep's record of 240 a few months later and bagged 263. Another team found well over 300 but used questionable methods such as splitting the team up, so some people don't accept their record. I can't find the article written by the German regarding the record run and preparation, but it included a lot of pre-hunt planning, including eliminating high difficulty caches and those with recent DNFs and having a local plan the best route, taking into consideration traffic patterns and also having a local serve as a driver. The planning was extensive and took a couple of months. True, but that's still a "we" and not an "I" which means more than two eyes, two hands and two feet in the search. Not looking at "team" efforts according to the OP. True that these record runs had 2 or 3 sets of eyes doing the searching, but I have no doubt a single person (with driver and proper planning) can find 200, 250 or more in 24 hours. The caches on these record runs tend to be easy ones by design, so it probably won't take all that much longer for one person to find them than 2 or 3. Quote
+Team Cotati Posted November 25, 2007 Posted November 25, 2007 Do numbers really matter? I can't hardly stand it. Quote
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