+GeoScooter1 Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 I know caches can be archived or disabled, but can they just disappear completely as if they never existed? I had entered some coordinates into my GPS for a cache and couldn't find it at the time. At a later date, I went to the website to look for the cache page and I couldn't find it at all. The same thing happened recently on another cache. I was just browsing around an area I might be traveling through and read one that sounded really interesting, but I didn't have time to download it or anything. I looked for it 2 days later, and NOTHING! I don't think I am making this stuff up, nor do I think I have completely lost my mind, but this is driving me crazy. I can remember parts of the descriptions, the clue for one of them, and yet it they are nowhere to be found. Link to comment
+StarBrand Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 Unless you know the GC code or someone that found it previously - archived caches will not show up in any of the searches. So not really disappeared - just archived and all you know is the coordinates. Link to comment
+Team [CSP] 802 Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 i think its a conspiracy... Link to comment
+Blue Bomb Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 That's the one feature I miss about the old geocaching.com maps. They gave you the option to show archived caches. The new google maps don't. Link to comment
+BlessedBees Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 Unless you know the GC code I would send the GC code, but the paper I wrote it on disappeared too.... Link to comment
+StarBrand Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 Unless you know the GC code I would send the GC code, but the paper I wrote it on disappeared too.... hmmmm - it IS a conspiracy!! Link to comment
+GeoScooter1 Posted November 13, 2007 Author Share Posted November 13, 2007 Unless you know the GC code I would send the GC code, but the paper I wrote it on disappeared too.... hmmmm - it IS a conspiracy!! Better a conspiracy than me totally and completely losing my mind. I had just looked at this one cache 2 days ago and thought I would wait until I got to my destination before downloading it, and then, IT WAS GONE!!!! Lesson learned. If a cache (and in this case, the place) looks interesting, download it at that moment. Do not wait. Link to comment
+BlueDeuce Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 I've kept some of my old PQs. It's interesting to compare them with current ones - How much placement has expanded, which ones have gone. Link to comment
+Miragee Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 I know caches can be archived or disabled, but can they just disappear completely as if they never existed? <snip> Actually, they can "disappear," something that just happened to a cache being discussed after this post and again after this post in this thread. The cache had "Found It" logs, and "Notes," but it was "retracted" as if it never existed . . . Link to comment
+trainlove Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 In addition to knowing someone who found that cache, or the GC name of it or the 6 or 7 digit code number of the cache (unlikely) or the 128 bit GUID code of that cache (totally unlikely unless your brain is infested with nanobots), you could find it if you knew who placed the cache. Learn about the prolific cache placers in that area. It used to be, and I think this posting is a veiled attempt at trying to get the 'Archived' viewing ability of the geocaching.com maps to be re-implemented. Link to comment
+the hermit crabs Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 I think this posting is a veiled attempt at trying to get the 'Archived' viewing ability of the geocaching.com maps to be re-implemented. Well, explicit pleading hasn't resulted in anything, so on with the veiled attempts!! (I really miss being able to see archived caches....) Link to comment
+the hermit crabs Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 I know caches can be archived or disabled, but can they just disappear completely as if they never existed? Almost. There's always some remnant left, I think. There was a cache that was placed a few miles from my house. I saw the listing pop up, went out and found the cache, came home and logged it... and within an hour, the cache listing was gone. Not just archived -- it had been retracted. (It had a guideline violation -- it was a codeword cache with no logbook.) My log still exists (I can get to it from my "show all logs" page), and the find is still included in my stats... but no one else can see the retracted cache page, or my log for the cache (except, I think, the cache owner). The cache used to be here, but now just shows an error message. My log for it is here -- I can see it if I'm logged in with this account, but not from any other account. Link to comment
+trainlove Posted November 18, 2007 Share Posted November 18, 2007 The cache used to be here, but now just shows an error message. My log for it is here -- I can see it if I'm logged in with this account, but not from any other account. Ah very interesting. Like the profile of a BANNED member that I know of and still have the GUID from some email logs. But who is the owner of that cache you mention? Can one see it listed in his profile? Link to comment
+Harry Dolphin Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 [There was a cache that was placed a few miles from my house. I saw the listing pop up, went out and found the cache, came home and logged it... and within an hour, the cache listing was gone. Not just archived -- it had been retracted. (It had a guideline violation -- it was a codeword cache with no logbook.) My log still exists (I can get to it from my "show all logs" page), and the find is still included in my stats... but no one else can see the retracted cache page, or my log for the cache (except, I think, the cache owner). Delisted caches are an interesting compromise. After all, I did find it. It does show in my find total. Albeit, I can only find it from "My Geocaching Logs (Filtered by Log Type): Found it" TPTB decided that it violated a guideline, and should never have been listed. So, it has been delisted. But, I did find it, so it is listed in my find count. As I said: a good compromise. Since I cannot access the page, and I forgot who hid it, I do not know if it's still listed under his 'hid' list. Though, I'm not sure if this was OP's question. Link to comment
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