holograph Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 Deleting logs won't affect the NGS statistics columns, but it will probably affect the Geocaching.com column. Quote Link to comment
+GEO*Trailblazer 1 Posted April 1, 2008 Author Share Posted April 1, 2008 ................B...............E..............N...............C.............H.............M..............A..............R...............K....... WEEK 1....123...........23............22............111..........38............51............88.............47..............15..... WEEK 2 WEEK 3 WEEK 4 WEEK 5 WEEK 6 WEEK 7 WEEK 8 I am trying to work out a BENCHMARK BINGO Game. Each week a new set of numbers will be listed randomly. 1st week would be(Example). B-123 E-23 N-22 C-111 H-38 M-51 A-88 R-47 K-15 That would give each person 9 chances per week for finding each mark and a BINGO if the got the whole line. Also allowed would be multiples of the same numbers like B-123 could be from seperate lines or different areas. A BINGO is the same as a BINGO in the game. Up, down, across, and diagonal. I have a WORD and an EXCEL Spreadsheet I am working on and will see if I can figure how to get them linked for you to use if you like. Now is time for comments and to work out the flaws. Your opinion is greatly appreciated. Quote Link to comment
2oldfarts (the rockhounders) Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 I am trying to work out a BENCHMARK BINGO Game. Each week a new set of numbers will be listed randomly. 1st week would be(Example). B-123 E-23 N-22 C-111 H-38 M-51 A-88 R-47 K-15 Using the above sample, we would have 1 chance of finding M 51 if it hasn't been destroyed. We've looked twice so far and can't find it. None of the rest are available in Coconino County, AZ. This is going to be one tough contest! John Quote Link to comment
+Harry Dolphin Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 Definitely tough! I have to search the three states I geocache in... M 51 is either 132 miles west in Pennsylvania or 144 NW in New York. I doubt that I'd make a run for either of those. Quote Link to comment
+The Fossillady Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 I looked for the first three on the list and using on those letters and numbers. I can't find one in CA. This may be very difficult to do. Quote Link to comment
+GEO*Trailblazer 1 Posted April 2, 2008 Author Share Posted April 2, 2008 I had some hard finds too!!!!!!!!!! OK I am going to change it a little. B 1XX E 2XX N 20X C 1XX H 3XX M 5XX A 8XX R 4XX K 15X X can be a fill in number. I seem to find a lot more this way and it won't be so tough. See if it works better for you all as well. Thanks for the ideas 2 Old Farts Quote Link to comment
Wintertime Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 I looked for the first three on the list and using on those letters and numbers. I can't find one in CA. This may be very difficult to do. It depends whether the rules require the exact designation mentioned in the contest targets (such as "B 123"), or whether that only has to be part of the designation. I see designations "B 1230" and "B 1231" in California, to use that same example. Patty Quote Link to comment
2oldfarts (the rockhounders) Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 I had some hard finds too!!!!!!!!!! OK I am going to change it a little. B 1XX E 2XX N 20X C 1XX H 3XX M 5XX A 8XX R 4XX K 15X X can be a fill in number. I seem to find a lot more this way and it won't be so tough. See if it works better for you all as well. Thanks for the ideas 2 Old Farts That should work better. Using the sample above, most would be available in Coconino, Mohave, and Kane Counties. And like regular Bingo, not all numbers on your card get called. Looks like it will be a fun and interesting contest. So, what are the thoughts for the scoring? Points per benchmark, points per bingo, any bonus points, etc.? John Quote Link to comment
+GEO*Trailblazer 1 Posted April 2, 2008 Author Share Posted April 2, 2008 5 pts. per Benchmark 10 pts. per Benchmark if older than 1950. 20 pts. per Benchmark if older than 1930. 50 pts. for a Benchmark BINGO. 100 pts. if it has a Not Found and you find it. And that yet elusive extra points for ???????? Yet to be determined. Benchmarks have to be at least 1 year since you last logged it. I will open a new thread for the logging page. How will this work out? Any concerns or comments? Quote Link to comment
2oldfarts (the rockhounders) Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 I have only two questions. What are the dates that it starts/ends? Do we sign up to play? Shirley~ Quote Link to comment
+GEO*Trailblazer 1 Posted April 3, 2008 Author Share Posted April 3, 2008 I still have yet to get prizes together but I guess I can make it last long enough to get those together. Any donations to the cause? I have something in the works but can't offer what I do not have yet but I do have some other things to offer and will add that soon. How about a start date of 4/15/2008 and to end 6/15/2008. That would be 8 weeks of the best time to play before the real heat sets in. Yes I will do the sign up page just as soon as I can get this posted. Quote Link to comment
+The Fossillady Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 Now that I see the changes, it should work. I already signed in on the sign-up page. Two weeks to go, I'm ready. Quote Link to comment
+piper28 Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 How about a start date of 4/15/2008 and to end 6/15/2008. That would be 8 weeks of the best time to play before the real heat sets in. Just don't forget to bring a shovel for that first part of that time to clear the snow away. Quote Link to comment
+GEO*Trailblazer 1 Posted April 3, 2008 Author Share Posted April 3, 2008 BENCHMARK BINGO EXCEL SPREAD SHEET Please see if you can get this. I am also working on a WORD document to share for those who can not use EXcel. I think I have to add you and then we can all use it. I am still a little slow at these things. Quote Link to comment
wwflover13 Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 I can't get into the spreadsheet. If you want, I can host the file on my website so everyone can view it more easily. E-mail me. Quote Link to comment
+Harry Dolphin Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 Think I'll have to pass on this one. I've worked most of the nearby lines. Pickings getting slim. Thanks anyway, and have fun. Quote Link to comment
andylphoto Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 It looks like the spreadsheet is in your Google account, so only you can access it. I couldn't get into it either. Quote Link to comment
2oldfarts (the rockhounders) Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 Think I'll have to pass on this one. I've worked most of the nearby lines. Pickings getting slim. Thanks anyway, and have fun. A Benchmark contest without Mr. Dolphin? This will be the first contest without you in the running. We find that we have worked most of the nearby lines and will have to go for the previously found ones. This will just confirm that they are still there and what shape they are in and allow us to get better pictures than we had before. (with the cornstarch). Maybe Andy Bear would want to be in the contest with you helping him? Or, do you want us to challenge you in some way to make it interesting enough to entice you? Really though, I do understand if you do not join in this time. It will just seem strange not to have you and Andy Bear around this time. Maybe next time we could have a contest about finding a cache that includes a benchmark in some way.... Good caching Mr. Dolphin. Shirley~ Quote Link to comment
2oldfarts (the rockhounders) Posted April 6, 2008 Share Posted April 6, 2008 5 pts. per Benchmark 10 pts. per Benchmark if older than 1950. 20 pts. per Benchmark if older than 1930. 50 pts. for a Benchmark BINGO. 100 pts. if it has a Not Found and you find it. And that yet elusive extra points for ???????? Yet to be determined. Benchmarks have to be at least 1 year since you last logged it. I will open a new thread for the logging page. How will this work out? Any concerns or comments? Just a bump up to remind all benchmark hunters that they have to sign up soon to be one of the contestants. Come on and join the fun. The more - the merrier! Shirley~ Quote Link to comment
Wintertime Posted April 6, 2008 Share Posted April 6, 2008 I'm considering it, but am waiting for the glitch with the spreadsheet to be worked out so that I can see what the target designations are and find out whether there are any qualifying ones near me. Patty Quote Link to comment
+GEO*Trailblazer 1 Posted April 7, 2008 Author Share Posted April 7, 2008 No one will know the exact numbers until that week of the competition. I have e-mailed the spreadsheet and word doc to wwflover to post on his web site. He should have it posted before long. Quote Link to comment
wwflover13 Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 No one will know the exact numbers until that week of the competition. I have e-mailed the spreadsheet and word doc to wwflover to post on his web site. He should have it posted before long. How about 4 minutes Here's the Excel and Word documents! Quote Link to comment
+GEO*Trailblazer 1 Posted April 7, 2008 Author Share Posted April 7, 2008 Thank you that was fast. Quote Link to comment
2oldfarts (the rockhounders) Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 No one will know the exact numbers until that week of the competition. I have e-mailed the spreadsheet and word doc to wwflover to post on his web site. He should have it posted before long. How about 4 minutes Here's the Excel and Word documents! Very nice and a nice thought to have it in both formats since some use only one kind (like us). Thank you very much wwflover! So, Wintertime, just sign up and each week there will be a new set of single digits to use as you see fit (1, 2, 3 or however many numbers that are available). We hope to get at least 1 per week. We do not expect to win, just have the fun of being in the contest. Thank you Geo for getting this all around and for the work that you will do before it is over. Shirley~ Quote Link to comment
+The Fossillady Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 Just some more clarifications, please. The numbers are going to change every week. Do we know what day of the week they are going to change? Can we only work on that week's numbers or can we continue to work on week one until we finish it? Say I need a N 2XX on week one but there isn't any for 300 miles but during week three I know I am taking a vacation and can pick it up then, will it still count for week one? Quote Link to comment
+GEO*Trailblazer 1 Posted April 9, 2008 Author Share Posted April 9, 2008 From the first day start at 12:00 midnight to 7 days 12:00 midnight. One full week except on the last weeeeeeek it is a little longer if you do the math. I think as of this point once the numbers are alloted for the week you may continue to work on the lines and bingo's, extra points, etc. Subject to modification before contest for clarity. I will also start a logging thread closer to the start date. 4-15-2008 is coming on fast. Quote Link to comment
Team Fawlty Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 What if R3 was randomly drawn. Then you find a benchmark with the designation STEWARD RM 3. Would that work for R3? Or say E2 and you found a benchmark with the designation JASPER 2. Would that work for E2? Quote Link to comment
+Astro_D Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 No one will know the exact numbers until that week of the competition. I have e-mailed the spreadsheet and word doc to wwflover to post on his web site. He should have it posted before long. How about 4 minutes Here's the Excel and Word documents! Ok....I click on either link and I get a screen asking for my email address and a password???? I can't access anything. Please help! Quote Link to comment
+GEO*Trailblazer 1 Posted April 12, 2008 Author Share Posted April 12, 2008 What if R3 was randomly drawn. Then you find a benchmark with the designation STEWARD RM 3. Would that work for R3? Or say E2 and you found a benchmark with the designation JASPER 2. Would that work for E2? No one will know the exact numbers until that week of the competition. I have e-mailed the spreadsheet and word doc to wwflover to post on his web site. He should have it posted before long. How about 4 minutes Here's the Excel and Word documents! Ok....I click on either link and I get a screen asking for my email address and a password???? I can't access anything. Please help! 'AstroD-Team' You should just be getting a page asking what you want to do with the file open / save . 'Team Fawlty' On the benchmarks I think the we need to stay with the designator. E 2X Examples: KG0123 E 2 E 20 1-9 Meaning that it has to be in the data base as the designator KG0123 E 2 the reference marks and azimuths do not count. Only these letters will be used B E N C H M A R K Random numbers will be picked for those letters each week. Hope this answers your questions. Quote Link to comment
AZcachemeister Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 No one will know the exact numbers until that week of the competition. I have e-mailed the spreadsheet and word doc to wwflover to post on his web site. He should have it posted before long. How about 4 minutes Here's the Excel and Word documents! Ok....I click on either link and I get a screen asking for my email address and a password???? I can't access anything. Please help! Interestingly, the Excel link opens the document natively on my PC, but the Word link opens a save file dialog. AstroD-Team, (to paraphrase an old fishing joke) are you sure you're holdin' your mouth just right? Oh, and I'm still not clear on what marks will be allowed... Quote Link to comment
+GEO*Trailblazer 1 Posted April 12, 2008 Author Share Posted April 12, 2008 All benchmarks in the Geocaching Data Base that you have not found in the last 12 months. You can continue to backlog as the weeks progress for the weeks before. The numbers designators will be picked each week. The letters are already there. Quote Link to comment
Wintertime Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 All benchmarks in the Geocaching Data Base that you have not found in the last 12 months. Oh, so newer marks in the NGS database not listed on Gc.com aren't eligible? How do we prove our finds? Do we send photos to someone? Do the photos have to include a GPS receiver screen showing date and time to prove the date? Patty Quote Link to comment
+GEO*Trailblazer 1 Posted April 12, 2008 Author Share Posted April 12, 2008 Like the last BM run contest. Log a note at the benchmark and you can upload the current images to it. Dates will be best for proof but if you can not for some reason get a clear image those can be judged when you post your links back to the benchmark. I will start a logging thread very soon. There is not much of a way to prove you were at a new NGS mark that is not listed. You could have dated images but I think for fairness we will limit it to the GC Data base. Now I have considered Waymarks that have been already posted. But I think that may be better for another contest. Quote Link to comment
+GEO*Trailblazer 1 Posted April 15, 2008 Author Share Posted April 15, 2008 You have until Midnight 4-15-2008 to sign up. I will send wwflover the final pages with all who signed up to post for the event. I will release the numbers very soon now. Quote Link to comment
AZcachemeister Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 OK, I think I've got it now... Since the contest numbers have been posted, it all became clear. If I understand correctly, our task (for column B this week) is to find at least one B 3xx mark, which will fill in cell B-1 on the bingo card. As well, all the B 3xx marks we can find will count in the contest points total, with age and previous recovery status counting accordingly. How many points for a 'blackout'? Quote Link to comment
+GEO*Trailblazer 1 Posted April 15, 2008 Author Share Posted April 15, 2008 HMM The Special Points BLACKOUT How much should that be worth???? Details at 10. Quote Link to comment
wwflover13 Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 Here are the Excel and Word documents for week 1. Quote Link to comment
AZcachemeister Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 Something else has occurred to me... I understand that we can look for marks from week 1 (etc.) throughout the contest, and the points will count. What if we recover a mark during week 1 that isn't eligible for the contest in week 1, but happens to come up in a later week's list? Quote Link to comment
+Klemmer Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 Don't recover it until you need it? Quote Link to comment
Wintertime Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 If I understand correctly, our task (for column B this week) is to find at least one B 3xx mark, which will fill in cell B-1 on the bingo card. As well, all the B 3xx marks we can find will count in the contest points total, with age and previous recovery status counting accordingly. Oh, so we can find more than one benchmark for each letter/number combination?? I thought once we had filled in a certain "square," that was it, just as in bingo. Patty Quote Link to comment
+GEO*Trailblazer 1 Posted April 15, 2008 Author Share Posted April 15, 2008 Something else has occurred to me... I understand that we can look for marks from week 1 (etc.) throughout the contest, and the points will count. What if we recover a mark during week 1 that isn't eligible for the contest in week 1, but happens to come up in a later week's list? See below. Don't recover it until you need it? What he said. If I understand correctly, our task (for column B this week) is to find at least one B 3xx mark, which will fill in cell B-1 on the bingo card. As well, all the B 3xx marks we can find will count in the contest points total, with age and previous recovery status counting accordingly. Oh, so we can find more than one benchmark for each letter/number combination?? I thought once we had filled in a certain "square," that was it, just as in bingo. Patty Yes that's it. Quote Link to comment
+GEO*Trailblazer 1 Posted April 15, 2008 Author Share Posted April 15, 2008 5 pts. per Benchmark 10 pts. per Benchmark if older than 1950. 20 pts. per Benchmark if older than 1930. 50 pts. for a Benchmark BINGO. 100 pts. if it has a Not Found and you find it. And that yet elusive (BLACKOUT) extra points for 500 pts. I am still working out the prizes, got a little while but they will be great I promise. Quote Link to comment
Wintertime Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 Oh, so we can find more than one benchmark for each letter/number combination?? I thought once we had filled in a certain "square," that was it, just as in bingo. Yes that's it. Which is? We can find more than one per combination, or once we've gotten one mark for that combination, that's all? Patty Quote Link to comment
+GEO*Trailblazer 1 Posted April 15, 2008 Author Share Posted April 15, 2008 You can keep finding them and adding points even after the first week)per combination). You could get as many bingo's in there as you can. You won't have to buy more cards that way. It should make for some high scoring BINGO. Quote Link to comment
AZcachemeister Posted April 16, 2008 Share Posted April 16, 2008 Don't recover it until you need it? IF I am 150 miles from home, I will darned sure recover all the marks I can and correctly log them on the date I was there. IF one of those marks should subsequently become eligible in this contest, I intend submit it for the contest, since it was recovered during the contest period. Is it ecologically/economically responsible to make another 300 mile round-trip for one mark? I WILL NOT LIE about the date of my recoveries, but if a mark is eligible in the contest, I hope to get some kind of credit for recovering it. Perhaps such a recovery could count for the mark points only, but not for any bingo line or in the blackout? Quote Link to comment
+GEO*Trailblazer 1 Posted April 16, 2008 Author Share Posted April 16, 2008 Good George I mean Azcachmeister. If you recover it during the time of the contest it is eligible. It really is ecologically/economically responsible to not make another 300 mile round-trip for one mark. All kinds of fun here. Quote Link to comment
AZcachemeister Posted April 16, 2008 Share Posted April 16, 2008 Thank-you for your consideration! I hope the situation will not arise, but the 'N 7xx' nearest me (N 78, CG0012) is 134 miles away. There are a lot of marks between here and there. Quote Link to comment
2oldfarts (the rockhounders) Posted April 19, 2008 Share Posted April 19, 2008 Geo, are we restricted to only benchmark disks or is any benchmark with the correct designation allowed? For the "C8" number there is only 1 benchmark C 8 within 150 miles (as the crow flies) of our location. We checked Coconino, Navajo, Mohave, Yavapai, Clark, Washington, Kane, and Iron counties and that is the only "C 8" available and it is a bolt in a boulder and the last 2 logs are "Not Found". Before we drive that far to see if it still exists, will you make an official call, do designations for benchmarks other than disks qualify for the contest? John & Shirley Ain't it fun making the final call? Quote Link to comment
+GEO*Trailblazer 1 Posted April 19, 2008 Author Share Posted April 19, 2008 Geo, are we restricted to only benchmark disks or is any benchmark with the correct designation allowed? For the "C8" number there is only 1 benchmark C 8 within 150 miles (as the crow flies) of our location. We checked Coconino, Navajo, Mohave, Yavapai, Clark, Washington, Kane, and Iron counties and that is the only "C 8" available and it is a bolt in a boulder and the last 2 logs are "Not Found". Before we drive that far to see if it still exists, will you make an official call, do designations for benchmarks other than disks qualify for the contest? John & Shirley Ain't it fun making the final call? No If you find a bolt or any other mark and it is the mark with no question it qualifies. If it is a NF you will also get that bonus. I will also clarify if the station is destroyed and you can find a reference mark or the azimuth with the designation on it it will qualify as part of the mark. I would also like to clarify we would like to have a current image with the log. It is hard to just say yes to a note only. Date is prefered but I know how hard that can be sometimes. Quote Link to comment
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