+"fish" Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 just wondering on a traditional cache is it ok to have my log deleted because i didnt leave a tb in a cache when i took some???? Quote Link to comment
+BlueDeuce Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 Some cache owners do place restrictions on caches by requiring bug trades. And yes they can delete your found it, but only because gc.com allows owners to delete find for any reason. I personally don't care if they delete my log. It would probably only give me an incentive to go back and help other bugs along in their journey. Enjoy caching, don't pet the sweaty stuff. Quote Link to comment
+"fish" Posted November 12, 2007 Author Share Posted November 12, 2007 GREAT idea i think i will make it a habit to visit this PRISON every so often and set bug and coins free THANX for the idea. are not caches with restrictions supposed to have a question mark on them?? Quote Link to comment
+TrailGators Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 just wondering on a traditional cache is it ok to have my log deleted because i didnt leave a tb in a cache when i took some???? That's too bad. Yet another good reason to have this feature! Quote Link to comment
+BlueDeuce Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 are not caches with restrictions supposed to have a question mark on them?? That, is definitely an idea worth considering. Quote Link to comment
+TrailGators Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 Actually, people are not supposed put restrictions on other people's travel bugs. They are supposed to travel. Quote Link to comment
+BlueDeuce Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 Actually, people are not supposed put restrictions on other people's travel bugs. They are supposed to travel. That's what I keep telling my wife, let's go somewhere! (......caching) Quote Link to comment
+TrailGators Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 Actually, people are not supposed put restrictions on other people's travel bugs. They are supposed to travel. That's what I keep telling my wife, let's go somewhere! (......caching) You and me both! Quote Link to comment
Keystone Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 GREAT idea i think i will make it a habit to visit this PRISON every so often and set bug and coins free THANX for the idea. are not caches with restrictions supposed to have a question mark on them?? You show great wisdom by writing off the smiley and considering other options. You are, of course, welcome to re-visit this cache to remove trackables where you can aid them in reaching their goals. You may also be in a position to log a "needs archived" on the cache, depending on the date when it was hidden. If the travel bug prison was hidden after February 21, 2007, it does not qualify as a traditional cache because the owner is enforcing a mandatory additional logging requirement by deleting non-compliant logs. If hidden prior to that date, however, the cache is grandfathered. Quote Link to comment
+"fish" Posted November 12, 2007 Author Share Posted November 12, 2007 keystone you can lock thread if you wish thanx for answering so fast Quote Link to comment
+fairyhoney Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 How cruel. You take the effort to find a cache, you should get to keep the credit for doing so! Quote Link to comment
+Kealia Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 As a TB owner = thank you. Cache owners wishes do not supercede the wishes of the TB - which is to move without restrictions like those mentioned. Sorry they deleted your find, but you did the right thing. Quote Link to comment
+"fish" Posted November 12, 2007 Author Share Posted November 12, 2007 (edited) the cache is gcwk56 i keep logging the find he keeps deleeting it one of us will quit POST SOME MORE NOTES FOR HIM WILL YA ITS A PRISON FOR TBS I WILL ALWAYS MOVE BUGS AND COINS ALONG Edited November 13, 2007 by fishing0023 Quote Link to comment
+BlueDeuce Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 Careful about requesting others to post notes, that starting to lean towards harassment. Just save your next found it for the next time you visit the cache. And if he deletes that, oh well. Quote Link to comment
+BlueDeuce Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 Beside gcwkf6 looks like a very nice cache. Quote Link to comment
+"fish" Posted November 13, 2007 Author Share Posted November 13, 2007 GCWK56 OPPS SORRY im was not HAPPY with a email that i got from the owner Quote Link to comment
+Eartha Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 the cache is gcwk56 i keep logging the find he keeps deleeting it one of us will quit POST SOME MORE NOTES FOR HIM WILL YA ITS A PRISON FOR TBS I WILL ALWAYS MOVE BUGS AND COINS ALONG You can not ask people to harrass a cache owner in any way shape or form. This is against the terms of use of the site and could lead to you having your account locked. Please, no one start posting any notes in this manner to anyone's cache page. Quote Link to comment
+"fish" Posted November 13, 2007 Author Share Posted November 13, 2007 blue duce i sent you a email yesterday tellin you that i was over it that was be for the cache owner sent me a email Quote Link to comment
+Kealia Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 Agreed. If your goal is to help move along TBs, just forget about getting the smiley that you are looking for. Getting into a heated arguments via notes or emails won't help anything. Quote Link to comment
+BlueDeuce Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 GCWK56 OPPS SORRY im was not HAPPY with a email that i got from the owner Okay well send me the email and I'll see if you both need to chill. Quote Link to comment
+fairyhoney Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 GREAT idea i think i will make it a habit to visit this PRISON every so often and set bug and coins free THANX for the idea. are not caches with restrictions supposed to have a question mark on them?? You show great wisdom by writing off the smiley and considering other options. You are, of course, welcome to re-visit this cache to remove trackables where you can aid them in reaching their goals. You may also be in a position to log a "needs archived" on the cache, depending on the date when it was hidden. If the travel bug prison was hidden after February 21, 2007, it does not qualify as a traditional cache because the owner is enforcing a mandatory additional logging requirement by deleting non-compliant logs. If hidden prior to that date, however, the cache is grandfathered. It appears that this cache is "grandfathered in" since it was published 14 JUN 06. I also saw that you had a smi;ey on 10 NOV 07 Plus a note after that date about it being a TB prison. Quote Link to comment
+Rockin Roddy Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 no note or find there now... Quote Link to comment
+ZSandmann Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 Wow reading back over the notes from the past, this guy is kind of OCD. I don't have many bugs out but I would not want mine anywhere near a cache like this. Seriously people will visit his cache because it is an ammo can, the logs indicate this is an exception in his area, as most are micros. You don't need to bait the cache with bugs to get finders. Bleh! Control freaks freak me out. Quote Link to comment
+HockeyPuck Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 Why not make a bookmark list titled "caches found, not logged" and add the cache(s) in question. The cache owner can't delete your bookmark list (however, you might get some "thumbs down' remarks) and you will be recognized for finding the cache. Quote Link to comment
+Rockin Roddy Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 I believe there's also a bookmark for "TB Prisons"...that sounds like what this one is! Quote Link to comment
+BlueDeuce Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 That Bookmark no longer is public. I believe gc.com doesn't particularly like Bookmarks being used to antagonize cache owners. Quote Link to comment
+ZSandmann Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 A bookmark list called "I found this cache whether you like it or not" But seriously, continue to move TBs if you can help them towards their goals. I wouldn't recommend continually wiping out all the bugs just to be vengeful, but if you can really get them closer, I say go for it. Remember if you aren't having fun, you're doing something wrong Quote Link to comment
+ZSandmann Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 Blue is correct, my above post was only in jest. Thus the smiley. Quote Link to comment
+BlueDeuce Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 I wouldn't recommend continually wiping out all the bugs just to be vengeful That I would do. Well, not to be vengeful per se more of a bug rescue mission. A prison break as it were. If it sits for more than two/three weeks I'd go move it. Quote Link to comment
+ZSandmann Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 I agree there, if it is sitting in the cache it is more likely to be muggled, and in this case there were a few logs that suggested it wasn't well hidden. Quote Link to comment
+Arrow One Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 I have no problem with TB Hotels, but these "prisons" with restrictions is crazy. As a public note, if any of my TBs ever end up in a cache like this, please rescue them, regardless of mission and move them to another cache anywhere. Quote Link to comment
+Renegade Knight Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 just wondering on a traditional cache is it ok to have my log deleted because i didnt leave a tb in a cache when i took some???? Ok to do so? Only if it was a trade rule and even then, it's not a good idea. Travel bugs travel. Trading a bug for a bug gets in the way of this. Thus it's flat out unwise to enforce some goofy self created rule that says you have to trade a bug for a bug. However the cache owner is the final judge on what logs can stay and what logs can go. Quote Link to comment
+Renegade Knight Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 ...are not caches with restrictions supposed to have a question mark on them?? I think that has become this sites take on ALR caches. (Additional Logging Requirments) and I think ti's a good solution for the current cache types we have. Quote Link to comment
+fairyhoney Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 no note or find there now... I Know I saw his smiley face there not but 2 minutes before I posted last night The note is still posted for 10 NOV 07. PS, what does ti's stand for? Quote Link to comment
+joranda Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 Actually, people are not supposed put restrictions on other people's travel bugs. They are supposed to travel. That is true. But why would you delete a found it log. must be a jerk. Quote Link to comment
+BlueDeuce Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 Some people have a different take on things. Being wrong doesn't automatically make you a jerk. I haven't actually interacted with this person so I'm not ready to pull out a label just quite yet. Quote Link to comment
+TrailGators Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 Actually, people are not supposed put restrictions on other people's travel bugs. They are supposed to travel. That is true. But why would you delete a found it log. must be a jerk. I would never in a million years delete someone's log over something like that. Of course, I would also never own a travel bug prison in a million years either. Quote Link to comment
+fairyhoney Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 I see that you tried Again, . And again, fishing0023, And again you got deleted . I think if I were in your situation, I'd give up on trying to log this place. or better yet, next time, leave a TB, then go pick it up. Is this "owner" not letting cachers log if they find this place But Not exchange anything? Not everybody moves TBs. . . Quote Link to comment
+TrailGators Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 I see that you tried Again, . And again, fishing0023, And again you got deleted . I think if I were in your situation, I'd give up on trying to log this place. or better yet, next time, leave a TB, then go pick it up. Is this "owner" not letting cachers log if they find this place But Not exchange anything? Not everybody moves TBs. . . I would put all his caches on my ignore list. Quote Link to comment
+"fish" Posted November 16, 2007 Author Share Posted November 16, 2007 I WAS AWAY FOR A MIN AND back to logging his cache Quote Link to comment
+"fish" Posted November 16, 2007 Author Share Posted November 16, 2007 this is todays log fishing0023 found Your Out! (Traditional Cache) thanx for the cache theres nothin you can do about my name in the book unless you remove other peoples names also then whos the bad one Quote Link to comment
+Sytar Posted November 16, 2007 Share Posted November 16, 2007 Just wondering, if you remove a TB but didn't drop any off, and your post gets deleted, dosn't that make the cache look like it still has the bug in it? or does that just relate to the find. Also, you could drop off a bug later and check another back out, then log your find for the earlier date. You technically did do what he wanted, just not in the order he wants. Quote Link to comment
+BlueDeuce Posted November 16, 2007 Share Posted November 16, 2007 Just wondering, if you remove a TB but didn't drop any off, and your post gets deleted, dosn't that make the cache look like it still has the bug in it? or does that just relate to the find. Also, you could drop off a bug later and check another back out, then log your find for the earlier date. You technically did do what he wanted, just not in the order he wants. It's separate, you don't even have to log anything on the cache to do the Retrieve. I suppose the OP could now follow the logging requirements, but hard to say if he'll be allowed a find since he's in the middle of a logging war with the owner. Quote Link to comment
+Kealia Posted November 16, 2007 Share Posted November 16, 2007 this is todays log fishing0023 found Your Out! (Traditional Cache) thanx for the cache theres nothin you can do about my name in the book unless you remove other peoples names also then whos the bad one Why bother at this popint? To be honest, you're not acting any better than he is at this point. Let it go. Quote Link to comment
+fairyhoney Posted November 16, 2007 Share Posted November 16, 2007 this is todays log fishing0023 found Your Out! (Traditional Cache) thanx for the cache theres nothin you can do about my name in the book unless you remove other peoples names also then whos the bad one Why bother at this popint? To be honest, you're not acting any better than he is at this point. Let it go. Would This makes it a double enforcement . Quote Link to comment
+"fish" Posted November 17, 2007 Author Share Posted November 17, 2007 why keep looging im only 9 or 10 from 1000 finds and my 1000th find will be my 1000 th find i will log it a few more times so that my count is right when i hit 1000 Quote Link to comment
+Kealia Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 But your 1,000th find is still your 1,000th find no matter what the site says. If you really need your stats to reflect 1,000 finds, log a find on one of your own caches with a note syaing something like "logging this find because my legit find on XXXX keeps getting deleted due to issues with the owner. I'm trying to keep my stats accurate". What you are doing now is just causing a fight that could escalate into stolen caches, TBs, etc. It's really not worth it. Quote Link to comment
+Great Scott! Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 (edited) The note is still posted for 10 NOV 07. If the note stays, in a few days/weeks when it drops off the first five logs page, edit the note to a found it log. He'll probably never notice the change. Edited November 17, 2007 by Great Scott! Quote Link to comment
+fairyhoney Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 The note is still posted for 10 NOV 07. If the note stays, in a few days/weeks when it drops off the first five logs page, edit the note to a found it log. He'll probably never notice the change. Whenever any activity is done to a cache, isn't the "owner" always notified? Quote Link to comment
+Great Scott! Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 The note is still posted for 10 NOV 07. If the note stays, in a few days/weeks when it drops off the first five logs page, edit the note to a found it log. He'll probably never notice the change. Whenever any activity is done to a cache, isn't the "owner" always notified? Not on edits. Quote Link to comment
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