+GeoBlank Posted October 27, 2007 Share Posted October 27, 2007 I am curious to know what happens behind the scenes as far as approving caches and what reviewers see and use. Are there screen shots worth posting of magical tools that show 528 feet proximity circles around all the legs of a multi, self checking test cases that pre-approve the cache and does all the work... Just wondering Guess I am board as I sit here ripping video... Link to comment
+Sapience Trek Posted October 27, 2007 Share Posted October 27, 2007 Nah, we don't use any sort of maps or proximity circles. Usually we turn over these specially developed cards randomly to tell us which ones to list and which ones not to. It takes a while to learn how to read them, but after a bit they seem to work really well: Link to comment
Mushtang Posted October 27, 2007 Share Posted October 27, 2007 There are a few useful tools that they can use. Maps, database access for all hidden waypoints, etc. But the tool that most reviewers use are the Reviewers Cubes. These can quickly and easily tell them if a cache should be approved or not. Snake eyes - cache is not approved because of permission issues All other doubles - cache not approved because of proximity to a "hidden" waypoint Anything else - cache approved. Link to comment
+erik88l-r Posted October 27, 2007 Share Posted October 27, 2007 I was issued a 528 foot long rope to use to gauge the .1 miles "protected area" radius around a cache. I do need to get a chainsaw to deal with those pesky trees though. erik - volunteer cache reviewer Here's a picture of me checking out a cache for content violations. Sorry, no pix of me with my rope. Link to comment
+mtn-man Posted October 27, 2007 Share Posted October 27, 2007 Are there screen shots worth posting of magical tools that show 528 feet proximity circles around all the legs of a multi, self checking test cases that pre-approve the cache and does all the work... At the risk of making Groundspeak mad, I will post this small picture of multi-leg proximity testing. Note the red circle showing problems with close proximity. You can see the reviewer working together here on the problem though. Sometimes we collaborate to work on the problem. I will take a picture of me reviewing a cache later and post it. Link to comment
+GeoBlank Posted October 27, 2007 Author Share Posted October 27, 2007 This is probably better than I had hoped for. Thanks folks! Link to comment
+puppymonster Posted October 27, 2007 Share Posted October 27, 2007 OK, here is the picture of a typical cache page. It looks the same actually. I am checking out the hints and the map. Link to comment
+mtn-man Posted October 27, 2007 Share Posted October 27, 2007 Why does my post say puppymonster? That's not the right picture either! Link to comment
+GeoBlank Posted October 27, 2007 Author Share Posted October 27, 2007 (edited) This is what we imagine as we submit a cache... Jeremy Presenting the queue Team Misguided making a case for a cache listed 527 feet away from another - with the F.A.Q. front and center. Final approval Edited October 27, 2007 by GeoBlank Link to comment
+DavidMac Posted October 28, 2007 Share Posted October 28, 2007 This is what we imagine as we submit a cache... Jeremy Presenting the queue Is it just me, or has he put on a little weight? Link to comment
+Trucker Lee Posted October 28, 2007 Share Posted October 28, 2007 And all this time, I thought the reviewers only used the finest software, highest level technology, and could approve a cache only after heated debate and much conferencing on the merits and location. And it all comes down to ......................... a coin flip!! Link to comment
+yawetag Posted October 28, 2007 Share Posted October 28, 2007 Yes, but to be fair, the coin is two-headed. And all this time, I thought the reviewers only used the finest software, highest level technology, and could approve a cache only after heated debate and much conferencing on the merits and location. And it all comes down to ......................... a coin flip!! Link to comment
+mtn-man Posted October 28, 2007 Share Posted October 28, 2007 So you've heard about my new geocoin, eh? Link to comment
Team Misguided Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 This is what we imagine as we submit a cache... Team Misguided making a case for a cache listed 527 feet away from another - with the F.A.Q. front and center. That's not too far removed from our den of doom where we review caches. That picture does make it seem a bit more roomy. We have 3 computers (sometimes 4 with the laptop) set up in a 6' X 11' room. When we're not sure about a cache we call in the expert, Lil' Lost One, he often makes the final decision. He must really love the word NO because he seems to enjoy being told that often. Link to comment
+Quiggle Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 (edited) I get this question all the time from the locals. At an event not too long ago, my husband demonstrated the system I use most often. Each number and color represents an attribute (so to speak), from archival, too close to another cache, vacation cache, publish (not many of those), etc. It works quite well and I've gotten to nearly 50% publish rate even with only a few of those as an option. Must need an alignment. The swag on the table was a game. If you got the cache published you could pick a prize. I ended up carrying most of it home. Quiggle P.S. I'm allergic to dogs, so puppymonster and I don't share territories. Edited October 29, 2007 by Quiggle Link to comment
+palmetto Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 I'd love to share review chores with the puppymonster, no doubt his judgment is more cogent than a lot of what I get out of the reviewer forums; where he rarely posts. In any case, I'm not a tarot user, myself. I tend to review via The I Ching - using coins, naturally, the yarrow stalk technique is just too time consuming for the numbers of caches I'm looking at. Link to comment
+ODragon Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 Red means archive Green means publish Anything else means ask a question. Very simple! Link to comment
+carleenp Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 You know that game where you stack and remove bricks and lose when you make the whoe the whole thing fall down? Place and remove a brick for each cache. Archive the ones that make it fall down. Link to comment
+Quiggle Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 You know that game where you stack and remove bricks and lose when you make the whoe the whole thing fall down? Place and remove a brick for each cache. Archive the ones that make it fall down. Jenga. Link to comment
+puppymonster Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 P.S. I'm allergic to dogs, so puppymonster and I don't share territories. I like chicken. I hear frog legs taste like chicken. Link to comment
+Quiggle Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 P.S. I'm allergic to dogs, so puppymonster and I don't share territories. I like chicken. I hear frog legs taste like chicken. I've often been called "chicken legs" so you're probably right. Link to comment
+Prime Suspect Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 I was issued a 528 foot long rope to use to gauge the .1 miles "protected area" radius around a cache. That'll move the chains! Link to comment
+riviouveur Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 Actually, the OP's picture of Team Misguided is a surprisingly accurate representation of the awesome array of hardware and software put at our disposal by Groundspeak. You'll know when a new reviewer has been appointed in your neighborhood, from the large black trucks and the subsequent brown-outs. And if you should need to ask for a second opinion, your reviewer can take your issue to the worldwide review team, whose HQ looks like this: Link to comment
+CacheDrone Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 I've been a reviewer for nearly 6 months, but since they have not provided me with a job description yet I spend my time posting useless thoughts in our super secret laboratory. I had no idea there was something that I was supposed to be doing. {checking into this 'other activity'} HOLY CRAP!!! I'm gonna be a little busy since there's a lot in there! If only there was a "Publish All" button. Link to comment
Team Misguided Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 (edited) If only there was a "Publish All" button. Alas, there isn't. But that Archive All button sure is nice. *edit to add picture of Team Misguided working hard* Edited October 30, 2007 by Team Misguided Link to comment
+Moose Mob Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 Of course we have our own method of doing things in Nevada. Link to comment
Keystone Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 I just finished reviewing 35 caches. I asked my daughter to capture some "action shots" for this thread. Here I am, trying to figure out what to do with a PVC Pipe cache placed on the railroad tracks behind a school: Ultimately, I decided to archive the cache. But I still haven't figured out how the other volunteers use those "Admin Bricks." What am I doing wrong? Link to comment
+Jamie Z Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 I asked my daughter to capture some "action shots" for this thread. Isn't your daughter growed up now and moved out? Jamie Link to comment
+PAWSitraction Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 (edited) I get this question all the time from the locals. At an event not too long ago, my husband demonstrated the system I use most often. Each number and color represents an attribute (so to speak), from archival, too close to another cache, vacation cache, publish (not many of those), etc. It works quite well and I've gotten to nearly 50% publish rate even with only a few of those as an option. Must need an alignment. The swag on the table was a game. If you got the cache published you could pick a prize. I ended up carrying most of it home. Quiggle P.S. I'm allergic to dogs, so puppymonster and I don't share territories. <RPG Geek> I always figured that all reviewers were automatically Chaotic-Neutral. </RPG Geek> Edited October 30, 2007 by PAWSitraction Link to comment
+mtn-man Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 But I still haven't figured out how the other volunteers use those "Admin Bricks." What am I doing wrong? Your CEO and Founder is happy to give you this quick illustrated tutorial... Link to comment
+Lizzy Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 If only there was a "Publish All" button. Alas, there isn't. But that Archive All button sure is nice. *edit to add picture of Team Misguided working hard* Ahhh! Now I know what currency Team Misguided likes! Next cache submittal, I'll have to overnight a "my little pony" Link to comment
+onecrazycanadian Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 I prefer the clock method myself. If I'm reviewing a cache and the second hand is anywhere between the big hand and the little hand it's bound for the archives. If the second hand is directly over the minute hand I'll flip a coin and if the second hand is over the hours hand I publish. Anyone know why I keep getting all these nasty emails?? Link to comment
+Nazgul Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 <RPG Geek> I always figured that all reviewers were automatically Chaotic-Neutral. </RPG Geek> Funny, I would have thought Lawful Evil. Link to comment
+PAWSitraction Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 <RPG Geek> I always figured that all reviewers were automatically Chaotic-Neutral. </RPG Geek> Funny, I would have thought Lawful Evil. Well, no, because then they're bound by the laws of Evil, see. Chaotic-Neutral...they can do anything. Link to comment
+VirginiaGator Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 I'd like one of whatever they use to judge distance from the closest cache. I once placed a cache in a park and had all the other caches entered in my GPS. I walked it from the closest to .10 away. Then went a bit farther before actually placing it. The reviewer didn't approve it...said it wasn't .10 away. Link to comment
+mtn-man Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 I'd like one of whatever they use to judge distance from the closest cache. I once placed a cache in a park and had all the other caches entered in my GPS. I walked it from the closest to .10 away. Then went a bit farther before actually placing it. The reviewer didn't approve it...said it wasn't .10 away. My gift to you, no charge, a completely serious answer... http://www.geocaching.com/seek Just enter your coordinates in the latitude/longitude search box. If there is a nearby cache, it will show. If it is a multicache section or final, it won't. You need to make sure you have found all multicaches in the area. Sometimes that is tough. With the proliferation of puzzles and multicaches, it is getting tougher and tougher to miss them. It is what it is. Link to comment
+mtn-man Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 I have proposed a new forum moderator kevlar suit design to replace the current kevlar flak jacket that we all wear. I'm liking it. Here is a rough rendering. Link to comment
+Quiggle Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 I have proposed a new forum moderator kevlar suit design to replace the current kevlar flak jacket that we all wear. I'm liking it. Here is a rough rendering. Now you need to post that in the costume thread. Link to comment
Mushtang Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 I have proposed a new forum moderator kevlar suit design to replace the current kevlar flak jacket that we all wear. I'm liking it. Here is a rough rendering. I was going to test the new suit just now by telling you what I really thought about you, but when I previewed my post I realized the profanity and filth got edited so much it just sounded silly. So I'll go back to my normal, "Keep up the good work Mtn-man, we love you!" status. Link to comment
+mtn-man Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 Master Kan: Quickly as you can, snatch the pebble from my hand. [Young Caine tries to do so and fails] Master Kan: When you can take the pebble from my hand, it will be time for you to leave. Link to comment
+Team Four Paw Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 "There's a little bit of truth in everything you say" Sure does explain a lot... Link to comment
Mushtang Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 Master Kan: Quickly as you can, snatch the pebble from my hand. [Young Caine tries to do so and fails] Master Kan: When you can take the pebble from my hand, it will be time for you to leave. That's an awesome post Mtn-man! Keep up the good work. We love you! Link to comment
Keystone Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 Real Mods don't need kevlar. Link to comment
4wheelin_fool Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 Ah HA! This thread has confirmed my greatest fears.. Link to comment
+palmetto Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 You're afraid of encountering Keystone in the nude? Link to comment
+Rick618 Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Ah HA! This thread has confirmed my greatest fears.. You've finally figured out that there is only one reviewer with multiple sock accounts??? Ditto the "Keep up the good work Mtn-man, we love you!" Link to comment
+Rick618 Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Ah HA! This thread has confirmed my greatest fears.. You've finally figured out that there is only one reviewer with multiple sock accounts??? Ditto the "Keep up the good work Mtn-man, we love you!" Link to comment
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