+Big Wolf Posted October 9, 2007 Posted October 9, 2007 (edited) I know its subjective but I see that the title of the cache page (as seen at the top of Internet Explorer has now changed to something like "Geocache GCQWERT in United Kingdom called What the cacher hid by Big Wolf" It all looks very pretty but try opening up 5 cache pages in IE7 and all you get on the tab is Geocache. Not exactly very helpful and lets face it I know its a geocache and what country I am in so why bother as it just wastes more ink when I print out the pages...... Edited October 9, 2007 by Big Wolf
+klossner Posted October 9, 2007 Posted October 9, 2007 Yes, this needs to revert. I depend on seeing the waypoint number at the start of the window title tab when planning an expedition.
Alan White Posted October 10, 2007 Posted October 10, 2007 I agree. There's too much information in the title, and in a less than useful order. I can't remember what it used to say but it must have been fine because it worked Something like GCQWERT What the cacher hid is all that's required in the title.
+benh57 Posted October 10, 2007 Posted October 10, 2007 Agree. What happened to the 'we are listening' ?
+kewfriend Posted October 10, 2007 Posted October 10, 2007 Agree - drop the word geocache - hmmm seems odd to be saying that
+SUp3rFM & Cruella Posted October 10, 2007 Posted October 10, 2007 We also agree. It's pointless the way it is now. It's far better (GCxxxx) - Name of the cache, placed by owner, in somewhere, country. Why fix something that it ain't broken? Have anyone asked for a changed for as it is now?
+Ambrosia Posted October 10, 2007 Posted October 10, 2007 Thank you! I'm glad someone brought this up. I use the names of the caches in my tabs all the time for various things. I just noticed this new change today, and it was really making it hard for me to do what I needed to do. I hope that it's not permanent.
wwflover13 Posted October 10, 2007 Posted October 10, 2007 I agree, with all those tabs I'd like the cache title or waypoint first so I can tell them apart!
+wigoweb Posted October 10, 2007 Posted October 10, 2007 Absolutely way too much info in the title bar. We all know that it is a geocache or we wouldn't be there reading the page. I suppose this is some attempt to raise the page's visibility for search engines. Hope it gets changed.
+roolku Posted October 10, 2007 Posted October 10, 2007 Add me to the list of people who preferred the old title.
+DavidMac Posted October 10, 2007 Posted October 10, 2007 Absolutely way too much info in the title bar. We all know that it is a geocache or we wouldn't be there reading the page. I suppose this is some attempt to raise the page's visibility for search engines. Hope it gets changed. If that's a case, there may be an easy fix on their end: If not logged in, just show the new info, starting with "geocache". If viewing the page after login, change it to the old way- waypoint first). Googlebot would never be logged in, so the new version would be sent to search engines. They already do this for the info text that shows in cache pages when logged out ("this is the original cache type, consisting of...)
OpinioNate Posted October 10, 2007 Posted October 10, 2007 We'll revert back to the old way of having the waypoint ahead of everything else in the title. Sorry, we didn't realize you all would be so passionate about it.
+SUp3rFM & Cruella Posted October 10, 2007 Posted October 10, 2007 We'll revert back to the old way of having the waypoint ahead of everything else in the title. Sorry, we didn't realize you all would be so passionate about it. Great. Thank you.
+DavidMac Posted October 10, 2007 Posted October 10, 2007 Thanks! Sorry, we didn't realize you all would be so passionate about it. That's probably due in part to the rise of tabbed browsing
wwflover13 Posted October 10, 2007 Posted October 10, 2007 We'll revert back to the old way of having the waypoint ahead of everything else in the title. Sorry, we didn't realize you all would be so passionate about it. Thanks! Those darn small tabs...
+Viajero Perdido Posted October 10, 2007 Posted October 10, 2007 Glad to hear this'll be fixed! While you're at it, why not put the most important stuff right at the front? To me, "most important" is the cache name, and the hider's name. The GCXXXX stuff, whether it's a traditional, etc., belongs in the page, not the title. IMHO. Clever Cache Name by Geocacher Name (GCXXXX) These pages are user-generated content, and having the ability to express yourself creatively is a big part of what keeps the game going. Let's show some respect for that content by putting it first.
+Windsocker Posted October 10, 2007 Posted October 10, 2007 We'll revert back to the old way of having the waypoint ahead of everything else in the title. Sorry, we didn't realize you all would be so passionate about it. Thats great news it was looking dreadfull
+DanOCan Posted October 10, 2007 Posted October 10, 2007 We'll revert back to the old way of having the waypoint ahead of everything else in the title. Sorry, we didn't realize you all would be so passionate about it. Whew. I came into the forums specifically to see if others had raised this concern and I see it has already been dealt with. The new format was awful, IMO.
+Ambrosia Posted October 10, 2007 Posted October 10, 2007 We'll revert back to the old way of having the waypoint ahead of everything else in the title. Sorry, we didn't realize you all would be so passionate about it. YAY!
+Big Wolf Posted October 10, 2007 Author Posted October 10, 2007 Thanks for listening and for undertaking to go back to what worked extremely well in the past.
+klossner Posted October 10, 2007 Posted October 10, 2007 To me, "most important" is the cache name, and the hider's name. The GCXXXX stuff, whether it's a traditional, etc., belongs in the page, not the title.To me, the waypoint name is the most important, as that's what I'm looking for on the tab while I'm working on a different tab (e.g., entering the waypoint number in a pocket query form.)
+Prime Suspect Posted October 10, 2007 Posted October 10, 2007 Glad to hear this'll be fixed! While you're at it, why not put the most important stuff right at the front? To me, "most important" is the cache name, and the hider's name. The GCXXXX stuff, whether it's a traditional, etc., belongs in the page, not the title. IMHO. Clever Cache Name by Geocacher Name (GCXXXX) These pages are user-generated content, and having the ability to express yourself creatively is a big part of what keeps the game going. Let's show some respect for that content by putting it first. No thanks. The unique identifier should be first.
+Markwell Posted October 10, 2007 Posted October 10, 2007 Glad to hear this'll be fixed! While you're at it, why not put the most important stuff right at the front? To me, "most important" is the cache name, and the hider's name. The GCXXXX stuff, whether it's a traditional, etc., belongs in the page, not the title. IMHO. Clever Cache Name by Geocacher Name (GCXXXX) These pages are user-generated content, and having the ability to express yourself creatively is a big part of what keeps the game going. Let's show some respect for that content by putting it first. Ah, but what if it's not clever or unique. What if you're opening up some of these 23 caches? They ALL have the same name, but each has a unique GCxxxx(x) code. I'd rather know precisely which page is being opened. Heck - I'd be happy if the Title of the cache page was ONLY GC****(*)
+alanfreed Posted October 11, 2007 Posted October 11, 2007 I also came to the boards specifically in hopes of learning more about this unusual change... and I'm also very glad to hear that it'll be changed back. I liked it the way it was... with the GCXXXX code first. That was very helpful to me to have it that way.
+Viajero Perdido Posted October 11, 2007 Posted October 11, 2007 Oh my. Now it's GCXXXXX - A Traditional Cache in Location, Location called Clever Cache Name created by Cache Owner That'll keep some people happy with the GCXXXX in front. But really, look at all the "noise" you have to read before getting to the interesting stuff: A Traditional Cache - It'll almost always say that in Location, Location - That'll always be my home territory called, created - more filler Clever Cache Name - Finally! Now I know which cache this page is for. Please please please, could you at least put the cache name second? Then I'll be happy and go away. I don't think of caches as GCXXXX. (Those are all the same to me.) Caches have names. Like people, that's how I tell them apart.
+Markwell Posted October 11, 2007 Posted October 11, 2007 I don't think of caches as GCXXXX. (Those are all the same to me.) Caches have names. Like people, that's how I tell them apart. Caches within 30 miles of Edmonton: 1125Caches within 30 miles of my hometown: 1847 I think that may be the difference.
kablooey Posted October 11, 2007 Posted October 11, 2007 Oh my. Now it's GCXXXXX - A Traditional Cache in Location, Location called Clever Cache Name created by Cache Owner That'll keep some people happy with the GCXXXX in front. But really, look at all the "noise" you have to read before getting to the interesting stuff: A Traditional Cache - It'll almost always say that in Location, Location - That'll always be my home territory called, created - more filler Clever Cache Name - Finally! Now I know which cache this page is for. Please please please, could you at least put the cache name second? Then I'll be happy and go away. I don't think of caches as GCXXXX. (Those are all the same to me.) Caches have names. Like people, that's how I tell them apart. At least you can SEE the cache name. On my small window, the cache name is always truncated before it starts
+SUp3rFM & Cruella Posted October 11, 2007 Posted October 11, 2007 It's perfect now. That's our opinion. Well done and thank you for listening and being so prompt to fix the thing. We're really enjoying this "Open-Book Management".
+JeremyR Posted October 11, 2007 Posted October 11, 2007 Personally, I really don't see what was wrong with the way it was before the upgrades were rolled out: (GCxxxxx) Some cache name by Somebody Brief and to the point, just as the title should be. There's a very good chance that the user has specifically searched for caches within a given state or country or of a given type, or at least knows, having just read it in the search results, so that really doesn't need to be in the title. £0.02
+whistler & co. Posted October 11, 2007 Posted October 11, 2007 (edited) I'm still seeing GC12345 - A Traditional Cache in Pennsylvania, United States called Clever Cache created by SuperCacher It's very difficult to work with multiple tabs. I think the best format for the tabs is: GC12345 - Clever Cache by SuperCacher (Pennsylvania, United States) Really...it is the BEST! Edited October 11, 2007 by whistler & co.
+chizu Posted October 11, 2007 Posted October 11, 2007 I'm still seeing GC12345 - A Traditional Cache in Pennsylvania, United States called Clever Cache created by SuperCacher It's very difficult to work with multiple tabs. I think the best format for the tabs is: GC12345 - Clever Cache by SuperCacher (Pennsylvania, United States) Really...it is the BEST! I'd second that.
+Big Wolf Posted October 11, 2007 Author Posted October 11, 2007 (edited) Yes, having the cache name second would be so much better than all the 'A Traditional Cache in Pennsylvania, United States called' stuff. It is great that you put the cache code first so perhaps you could also move the cache name as well since it appears that this is what everyone wants. Personally I'd endorse Whilstler & co's suggestion of GC12345 - Clever Cache by SuperCacher (Pennsylvania, United States) . Edited October 11, 2007 by Big Wolf
+DavidMac Posted October 11, 2007 Posted October 11, 2007 (edited) It's very difficult to work with multiple tabs. I think the best format for the tabs is: GC12345 - Clever Cache by SuperCacher (Pennsylvania, United States) Really...it is the BEST! I like that, too! Or it could be modified slightly, to include all of the info: GC12345 - Clever Cache by SuperCacher (A Traditional Cache in Pennsylvania, United States) Sure it's long, but it's much easier to read than the current (new) format. Edited October 11, 2007 by DavidMac
markandlynn Posted October 11, 2007 Posted October 11, 2007 I'm still seeing GC12345 - A Traditional Cache in Pennsylvania, United States called Clever Cache created by SuperCacher It's very difficult to work with multiple tabs. I think the best format for the tabs is: GC12345 - Clever Cache by SuperCacher (Pennsylvania, United States) Really...it is the BEST! I'd second that. Third
+Lizzy Posted October 11, 2007 Posted October 11, 2007 Please please please, could you at least put the cache name second? Then I'll be happy and go away. Please, oh please....GC# 1st, Cache name 2nd
+Miragee Posted October 11, 2007 Posted October 11, 2007 Yes, having the cache name second would be so much better than all the 'A Traditional Cache in Pennsylvania, United States called' stuff. It is great that you put the cache code first so perhaps you could also move the cache name as well since it appears that this is what everyone wants. Personally I'd endorse Whilstler & co's suggestion of GC12345 - Clever Cache by SuperCacher (Pennsylvania, United States) Oh . . . I agree. Why does all this information have to be in the Title? GCZCPA - A Earthcache in California, United States called Cannonball Wash and the Diablo Formation created by Miragee Way too much information . . . I would be happy with: GCZCPA - Cannonball Wash and the Diablo Formation or, if that other information is necessary for some reason . . . GCZCPA - Cannonball Wash and the Diablo Formation -- Earthcache (California, United States)
Alan White Posted October 11, 2007 Posted October 11, 2007 Please, oh please....GC# 1st, Cache name 2nd Agreed. And nothing else. A title is supposed to be a summary, not the whole novel.
+cache_test_dummies Posted October 11, 2007 Posted October 11, 2007 Probably overkill, but an ideal solution would be to have a profile setting that would allow each user to choose (and select the order of their appearance) the information that appears in cache page title display, from among the four basic attributes (GC number, cache name, cache type, location).
+Shilo Posted October 11, 2007 Posted October 11, 2007 Please, oh please....GC# 1st, Cache name 2nd Agreed. And nothing else. A title is supposed to be a summary, not the whole novel. Oh no after the above I think it should have state, country, coordinates, the hint already decoded then the cache description OK just kidding. Just the GCXXXX and the cache name works for me too.
kablooey Posted October 12, 2007 Posted October 12, 2007 We'll revert back to the old way of having the waypoint ahead of everything else in the title. Sorry, we didn't realize you all would be so passionate about it. Any estimated time on reverting back to the old way? It's annoying not to be able to see the cache name.
+Johnny4x4 Posted October 12, 2007 Posted October 12, 2007 I Hate the new look, i also print out the map page with the numbers so i can cache several at a time, this new map just is a pain. go back to how it was worst part< cant tell if a cache is archived by just looking, have to search
+roveron Posted October 12, 2007 Posted October 12, 2007 As someone who's used tab browsing for a pretty long time, I've come to rely on tab titles a lot. I was going to post a picture of my tabs, but I guess the image has to live on another server, so I can't.
+Big Wolf Posted October 12, 2007 Author Posted October 12, 2007 (edited) PLEASE IGNORE THIS POST AS, SINCE IT WAS POSTED, THE TEXT HAS UNFORTUNATLY GONE BACK TO AN UNHELPFULL SETTING Just noticed that the title is now in the format of (cache code) Cache Name created by Cacher Many thanks to all at Groundspeak for listening to the above posts and for making the further changes. Its very much appreciated. Edited October 13, 2007 by Big Wolf
+40 Posted October 13, 2007 Posted October 13, 2007 (edited) My suggestion would be: Gxxxxxx - "Cache Name" by "Geoname", "Type" Cache in xxxx, xxxx That was it goes from most unique to the least unique info plus you don't need the filler words like "created", "called" etc. -40- Edited October 13, 2007 by 40
+Trucker Lee Posted October 13, 2007 Posted October 13, 2007 I much prefer the GC# first, the rest of it doesn't matter.
+Ambrosia Posted October 13, 2007 Posted October 13, 2007 (edited) edit: I had thought that it was GC# and then Cache Name, but it doesn't appear to be at this moment. Edited October 13, 2007 by Ambrosia
+Markwell Posted October 13, 2007 Posted October 13, 2007 I see GC***** - A [type] in [state] [country] called [name of cache] Given a choice, I'd rather see: GC*****, [name of cache] - A [type] in [state] [country] but that's me. Now Travel Bugs: (TB****) Travel Bug Dog Tag - [name of bug] Why the parenthess? And why not TB****, [name of bug], a Travel Bug Dog Tag
+Biggi_H Posted October 13, 2007 Posted October 13, 2007 I would preferred the old title. It´s horrible with the long names in my bookmarks. First I want to know the name, if traditional or multi eg. dosn´t matter in my bookmarks. Please bring back the old names. Biggi
+MsChief Gps_y Posted October 13, 2007 Posted October 13, 2007 I vote with returning to the original format: GC#, cache name, owner. It was efficient and easy to re-look up a cache, now it's time consuming. Thanks in advance and in hope....
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