Jump to content

What's with the religious stuff?


Recommended Posts

I've noticed a trend, at least here in KY that more and more chaches are having religious items, booklets, etc. in them. I was of the impression this really wasn't allowed.

 

 

I have a cache named "Jesus Saves". I originally named it that because it is located just below a huge rock stenciled with the face of Jesus. I am a Christian but, I didn't put anything in the cache page or the cache saying "if you geocache without Jesus your going to hell!" Ha ha. Anyway, I just recently found a track for the mormon Church in a cache. I took it and enjoyed learning a little bit about another faith. One time I was out caching with my 2 year old. I came across the cache first and looked in it before he had a chance. There were a couple of items in there that I am glad he didn't get his hands on. I think a few religious items are the last things to be worried about finding in a cache.

Link to comment

Why do you INSIST on "spreading your word?" Sorry, but psychologists call it reaction formation. You're actually quite insecure with your own religious beliefs, so you overcompensate by overselling them to others, in order to actually convince yourself of their validity. Shakespeare said it best in Hamlet, Act III, Scene 2: "The lady doth protest too much, methinks."

 

The psychologists can go jump in a lake if they're really saying that. If I think you're on your way to the hot place and now is your only chance to change, then what, pray tell, would you expect me to do about it?

 

Ah, yes, my natural reaction should be indifference. What would you have done had you known that the 9/11 attacks were going to happen? Couldn't wait to see the live footage (it's about time something interesting happened around here)? Yell and scream and try to get someone's attention before it was too late?

 

Should I feel ashamed of others who are scrambling to do whatever they can think of to spread the word? Heck, no.

Link to comment

 

Ah, yes, my natural reaction should be indifference. What would you have done had you known that the 9/11 attacks were going to happen? Couldn't wait to see the live footage (it's about time something interesting happened around here)? Yell and scream and try to get someone's attention before it was too late?

 

Should I feel ashamed of others who are scrambling to do whatever they can think of to spread the word? Heck, no.

Preach it!

 

There is a Christian song that sums it up pretty well that goes "that's the way it is with God's love, once you've experienced it... you want to pass it on."

 

To me, THAT is the "natural reaction."

 

Tracts are not my preferred method of "passing it on" because i don't see them as very effective. But to each his own. The Master DID tell His followers to tell everyone. If we do not do this in some way, shape or form, we disobey.

 

To remove them or try to ban them is censorship. If you own the cache that is your right. But if it one is not the cache owner it is pretty presumptive to take it upon oneself to decide what another human being should have access to read.

Link to comment

There is a Christian song that sums it up pretty well that goes "that's the way it is with God's love, once you've experienced it... you want to pass it on."

I thought it went, "That's how it is with God's love..."

 

I was thinking of this song last weekend. It was one of my favorites from camp as a kid, but I couldn't remember all the verses. Thanks for reminding me I wanted to look it up and try to find the lyrics. :lol:

Link to comment

There is a Christian song that sums it up pretty well that goes "that's the way it is with God's love, once you've experienced it... you want to pass it on."

I thought it went, "That's how it is with God's love..."

 

I was thinking of this song last weekend. It was one of my favorites from camp as a kid, but I couldn't remember all the verses. Thanks for reminding me I wanted to look it up and try to find the lyrics. :lol:

I don't know that song. We used to sing "Shoo fly don't bother me" at camp. :lol:
Link to comment
There is a Christian song that sums it up pretty well that goes "that's the way it is with God's love, once you've experienced it... you want to pass it on."
I thought it went, "That's how it is with God's love..."

 

I was thinking of this song last weekend. It was one of my favorites from camp as a kid, but I couldn't remember all the verses. Thanks for reminding me I wanted to look it up and try to find the lyrics. :lol:

Heh... :lol:

 

I know it...

 

 

 

 

 

but I can't tell you. :lol:

 

I will say you're right about the lyrics. :P

Edited by Too Tall John
Link to comment

I have to say, I am MORTIFIED.... :D

The other day in a cache, I found ( gasp) (whimper) a...

dare I say it?

A US quarter..with a picture of (sob) an Eagle on the back. Ever since

Birds I am just afraid of all of them.

Also, in the cache was a spider on a metal object. My mom told me

spiders will pull your teeth out at night. :laughing:

I put that spider back real fast.

Then of all things ( quick,we need to call the Senate) there was a log written in

(yes, you guessed it) of all things a LEAD pencil.

 

I am just so offended, I don't think I can geo cache any longer.

I was just mortified that it was in an Altoids tin instead of a Sucrets

container.

 

God forgive all of you.

 

staight and narrow is the path.

 

BillandI :D

Link to comment

Geocaching is infected to some agree with same contangion that has infected society in general, people actually enjoy being offended, critcizing others, and viewing themselves are victims:

 

1) I am offended by religious items,

2) I am offended by non-religous items that I find inappropriate

3) LPCs are killing the sport for me

4) Micros in general are affecting my enjoyment of the sport

5) People will log on line and not sign the log book

6) People will sign the logbook and not log on line

7) People don't write appropriate log entries.

8) Some caches are too hard

9) Some caches are too easy

10) People place caches in inappropriate locations

11) Too many caches in same kind of places.

 

and so on and so on

 

Time for everyone to just lighten up a bit.

Link to comment

Time for everyone to just lighten up a bit.

 

I'm offended you pointed out that I am weight-challenged. I would 'lighten up' as you put it, if I wasn't oppressed by the law of gravity.

 

Or was I offended by your pigment intolerance. I can't lighten up until winter when I hibernate for long periods of time and the sun stops affecting my melanin.

 

I know I must be offended by something. It's the thing to do...

 

:D:D

Link to comment

I absolutely abhor proselytizing in any form. That probably emanates from spending my formative years in Asia and seeing some of the ugly methods various churches used to convert the indigenous people and the lack of respect some missionaries had for the local religions. Now before any of you reply about the all the good the Christian churches did in Asia don't base that solely upon what you read. If you didn't see it firsthand then you probably don't know all the devious methods they used.

 

So, I get testy with religion crossing over into geocaching.

Link to comment

OK folks, let's review the swag rules we have now........

 

no religious stuff because you might offend the agnostics and atheists.

no political stuff because you might offend cachers who don't share your political views

no toys because you might offend those who believe they are the devil's tools

no pictures of food because you might offend those who are dieting

no bikini models because you might offend middle aged heavy-set women

no male models because you might offend middle aged fat guys who don't go that way

no alcohol because you might offend those who don't imbibe

no tobacco because you might offend those who don't smoke, chew, or dip

no NASCAR stuff because you might offend those who like to drive slow

no Chinese made stuff because you might offend those who only 'BUY AMERICAN"

no commerial items because you might offend a paying sponsor of the website

 

Now, can't we all agree that rules and regulations can get a bit out of hand? Why a big controversy? Get the chip off your shoulders, and your head from where you keep it, and understand that not everyone has the same tastes or beliefs. Act like the adults most of us are supposed to be, if you don't like something understand that it might be someone else's thing, and leave it be. If you get offended that easily, stay in your cardboard box and leave the world alone!

 

The only rules need to apply to swag are safety and decency with the knowledge that many cache with youngsters. No alcohol, tobacco, drugs, porn, or firearms because most of us wouldn't want our children to have open access to them. Consider other cachers when you decide what to leave behind, and keep it tasteful to the majority of the population. If you're not sure, err on the side of caution. Oh yeah, no food to keep ants and other critters from spoiling our fun. A bit of common sense doesn't hurt.

Edited by Trucker Lee
Link to comment

Dang! How'd I miss this topic :D

 

<RANT>

 

The most concerning thing to me about this whole thread is that it was pointed out that 70-80% of the populace claims to be Christians, but a VERY small percentage of that number are actually doing what they were told... No wonder Christianity has gotten a bad name...

 

Look at the fish on the back of my car as I flip you off and cut you off on the highway.. ;)

 

We were not asked, we were COMMANDED to spread the word... If you were in a burning building and people were screaming all around you and YOU knew where the exit was, but didn't let these people know because you were worried they were going to say, "There are many exits to this building, you're being intollerant"... The fact that, as a Christian, you know the answer to the "Burning" question and you choose to not share that is disgusting...

 

I have VERY little tolerance for Christians who behave this way... The atheists and agnostics I can respect.. At least they practice what they preach.

 

</RANT>

Link to comment

I don't mind the Chick Tracts in geocaches that much (although I think they are ineffective and, well, goofy), but MAN it used to drive me *crazy* when I would get them while out trick-or-treating.

 

Like....This Was Your Life?!?!?!?!? Dude, I just want some Now-Or-Laters!

 

We ended up giving those houses a little paper of our own, heheheh...

 

;)

Link to comment

The most concerning thing to me about this whole thread is that it was pointed out that 70-80% of the populace claims to be Christians, but a VERY small percentage of that number are actually doing what they were told... No wonder Christianity has gotten a bad name... [...]

 

We were not asked, we were COMMANDED to spread the word... [...]

Not every group that practices evangelism is Christian, and even among the various Christian groups there are not as many as you might think who stress evangelism. Some churches interpret the "Great Commission" as a command given the twelve disciples and not "the Church" at large. Some groups actually discourage their members from cold witnessing, because they feel it alienates people more often than it interests them.

 

Some interesting tidbits I picked up....

 

From http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_prac2.htm

  1. "The proportion of the [American] population that can be classified as Christian has declined from 86% in 1990 to 77% in 2001." ARIS Study.
  2. "...evangelicals remain just 7% of the adult population. That number has not changed since the Barna Group began measuring the size of the evangelical public in 1994....less than one out of five born again adults (18%) meet the evangelical criteria." (N = 1003; margin of error = ±3.2%).
  3. "...the number of Protestants soon will slip below 50 percent of the nation's population." National Opinion Research Center's General Social Survey, 2004

 

That last prediction has already occurred, according to a more recent study (2006) by Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life, the "Protestant" group is down to 51%, another study by the Vactican learier this year places that number at 44%.

 

http://www.adherents.com/Religions_By_Adherents.html

Only 33% of the people in the world report some affiliation with Christianity many of them to not actively practice any specific rituals or attend any organized meetings.

Link to comment

I've put a couple things in caches that could be viewed as being religious, but theres no intent of converting anyone, in fact it hadn't even crossed my mind till reading this thread! lol

I place it for others who might be interested in it, and if it's in my own cache then I also place plenty of other toys and such so theres options besides the religious trinkets.

My first time caching the only swag I got was a plastic coin with the ten comandments on it, I picked it up because I am religious, not with the intent of learning, nor with the feeling that someone was trying to convert me to their religion.

Stop being so sensitive, if you stop placing things that might in some way offend someone then you no longer have anything to place, everything must go in the trash.

 

(and I am a Seventh Day Adventist like was mentioned in other posts in this thread)

Link to comment
Dang! How'd I miss this topic ;)

 

<RANT>

 

The most concerning thing to me about this whole thread is that it was pointed out that 70-80% of the populace claims to be Christians, but a VERY small percentage of that number are actually doing what they were told... No wonder Christianity has gotten a bad name...

 

Look at the fish on the back of my car as I flip you off and cut you off on the highway.. :D

 

We were not asked, we were COMMANDED to spread the word... If you were in a burning building and people were screaming all around you and YOU knew where the exit was, but didn't let these people know because you were worried they were going to say, "There are many exits to this building, you're being intollerant"... The fact that, as a Christian, you know the answer to the "Burning" question and you choose to not share that is disgusting...

 

I have VERY little tolerance for Christians who behave this way... The atheists and agnostics I can respect.. At least they practice what they preach.

 

</RANT>

I don't see it this way RoN. Many of us are lost sheep and we know it. So if you were one of these people how would you want to be treated? With scorn?

 

Anyhow, I think caches are a tacky place to try to spread religion.

Link to comment

I absolutely abhor proselytizing in any form. That probably emanates from spending my formative years in Asia and seeing some of the ugly methods various churches used to convert the indigenous people and the lack of respect some missionaries had for the local religions. Now before any of you reply about the all the good the Christian churches did in Asia don't base that solely upon what you read. If you didn't see it firsthand then you probably don't know all the devious methods they used.

 

So, I get testy with religion crossing over into geocaching.

 

So you abhor proselytizing and it makes you testy finding religion in caches. Okay, thanks for sharing. Perhaps caching isn't for you.

 

Trade even, up or not at all.

Link to comment

If I start see political buttons/bumper stickers in caches this year, that stuff is going in the trash. I will trade even for it by putting nothing in the cache when I take it out! ;)

 

Perfect! :lol:

 

I'll do the same... As far as religion and geocaching, I don't think you have to be religious to do it. If I find anything like that I just ignore it, and move on. My whole family is religious to one extent or another, I'm not. To each their own... Just don't force it down my throat and we'll get along fine :D

Link to comment

I am merely promoting tolerance, namely a gaming environment that is religiously neutral, where one is not confronted by solicitations and the intrusiveness of people trying to convert each other. Surely we can probably all imagine screeds or propoganda that would rub us the wrong way. Do we really want to give the green light on *encouraing* such items?

 

The short answer is YES!

 

You do not promote tolerance by hiding or ignoring the subject, that only breads intolerance from ignorance. In fact it promote tolerance you do exactly the opposite. You admit that others have views that you may not agree with.

 

tol·er·ance /ˈtɒlərəns/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[tol-er-uhns] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation

–noun

1. a fair, objective, and permissive attitude toward those whose opinions, practices, race, religion, nationality, etc., differ from one's own; freedom from bigotry.

2. a fair, objective, and permissive attitude toward opinions and practices that differ from one's own.

3. interest in and concern for ideas, opinions, practices, etc., foreign to one's own; a liberal, undogmatic viewpoint.

4. the act or capacity of enduring; endurance: My tolerance of noise is limited.

 

Definitions of bread on the Web:

 

* food made from dough of flour or meal and usually raised with yeast or baking powder and then baked

* boodle: informal terms for money

* cover with bread crumbs; "bread the pork chops before frying them"

wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

 

Sorry, couldn't resist that ;-) (i am certainly not one to point out grammatical errors)

 

I do not think the issue at hand here is tolerance. Perhaps that was the wrong word to use. I think what some people who share the idea of religious neutrality are trying to say is they really do not want to see religious items of any sort in a cache. Me, personally, I could care less. I won't get into my stance on religion because this is not the forum to discuss, but I can certainly understand why someone of a different faith or non-religious would feel a bit uneasy about finding some religious items in a cache. Unlike the great "merry christmas" debate, we are all here playing a game, a game in which should be devoid of political, commercial, and RELIGIOUS agendas. I know Groundspeak tends to let the religious aspect slide a little bit, but I still think the game should not be a place where these types of agendas are promoted -and yes, placing a crucifix, star of david, crescent moon and even a buddhist (spelling?) figurine in a cache *IS* promoting a religious agenda. Subtle as it may be, it is what it is. I think folks who think it is harmless should think about the items they are placing in the cache and if they will offend anyone - yes, this *IS* me saying that in this case, we do need to be politically correct. While someone may feel placing a st. jude figurine into a cache is a nice thing, someone who is not catholic may not appreciate opening up a cache and seeing it. Just as I wouldn't place a copy of he gospel of judas into a cache as to offend christians who are strict followers of the the canon of the bible.

 

Sorry for rambling but I hope others can understand where some people just d not want to see certain things in a cache. Again, by disagreeing with me will not goad me into an argument - as I have said, I could care less whether a bible is placed in a cache, a mccain bumper sticker is placed in, or a chik-fil-a flyer is placed in there. ;-)

Link to comment

Geocaching is a part of life and people are going to, at times, share other things that are also part of their life.

 

There is no way I am going to support a stance that says well, there are things in your life that while aren't illegal or immoral they just make some people uncomfortable and testy. You really need to be sensitive to those people who are easily offended by the social world around them.

 

Forget that noise. We're talking swag here. If you can't handle it, stay home.

Link to comment

Geocaching is a part of life and people are going to, at times, share other things that are also part of their life.

 

There is no way I am going to support a stance that says well, there are things in your life that while aren't illegal or immoral they just make some people uncomfortable and testy. You really need to be sensitive to those people who are easily offended by the social world around them.

 

Forget that noise. We're talking swag here. If you can't handle it, stay home.

 

Ok, I am a hypocrite and will bite.

 

So, if I dropped a pentacle into a cache or a copy of the necronomicon into a cache, it is ok? Or even better yet, what about dropping a hindu swastika into an ammo box, this is ok? All of which are religious items and not illegal (and no, the hindu swastika is not illegal and predates the evil use of the pig Hitler by thousands of years) do you think these items are ok? Please be honest, as a true Christian would be, that you can really say these items would not upset you. Recent events actually prove this particular theory in that parents at an unamed middle school were quite upset when a teacher tried to incorporate Hannukah celebration into one day, Christmas celebration into another day and then Kwanza into yet another day. Guess which ones the parents didn't like (hint - it was not St. Nicks day). Te irony of it was that they were "offended" by the idea that their Christian children have to celebrate non-Christian holidays and that the teacher SHOULD have sent something home to inform the parents so they could opt to have their children not partake in those events (Of course when the same thing is done where non-Christian children and someone gets "offended" it is because they hate Jesus and are too "sensitive").

 

Ah yes, Christian preaching tolerance. Throwing stones in a glass house much?

 

And as I have said, I can handle anything in a cache - let me repeat I...COULD....CARE....LESS...WHO...LEAVES...WHAT...IN...A...CACHE...

If someone wants to leave a bible. Great. If someone wants to leave a koran. Great. if someone eants to leave a copy of the magna carte. Great.

 

I am just saying that others are not so unoffended as I am. And I can respect that enough that I an fo that stance of not putting these types of item in a cache. If you want to preach religion, there are so many other forums to do so. I do not think a game that is offered to all sorts of people all over the world from all walks of life should be subject to someone religious convictions. Reflective upon a who a person is or not. It does not matter. f Jenna Jameson became a geocacher and left in "personal massager" in the cache, which reflects a part of who she is, I'd like to see if you all would still feel the same way (and DO NOT bring up Groundspeak rules for those types of items - the context of which we speak is the point here, NOT groundspeaks rules - so don't even go down that road).

Link to comment

Okay, since we battled this out in PM I'll answer by what I said there.

 

If they find it personally offensive they should do what I do - Trade even, trade up or don't trade at all.

 

Well, I still think the point is totally being missed and marginalized by that statement, but I digress. :-)

 

Actually, I think we had a pretty good conversation in our exchange. Keep your faith, but keep on being open minded - we need more folks like you in this world!

Link to comment

No, I'm not missing the point.

 

When I leave a rosary I'm leaving it for someone who might want it. Just like the kid toy, or the rain poncho, or a copy of Watership Down. I'm just leaving swag, it just happens to be intended for another Catholic.

 

I do understand that someone might think I'm trying to convert them or push my agenda, but I hope they stay strong. ;)

Edited by BlueDeuce
Link to comment

No, I'm not missing the point.

 

When I leave a rosary I'm leaving it for someone who might want it. Just like the kid toy, or the rain poncho, or a copy of Watership Down. I'm just leaving swag, it just happens to be intended for another Catholic.

 

I do understand that someone might think I'm trying to convert them or push my agenda, but I hope they stay strong. :lol:

:D

 

To use analogies again, if a neo-nazi leaves a swastika in a cache so that another neo-nazi who might want it, is this ok with you? Even though the swastika may offend most people. Or something that is closer to your heart - lets say someone wanted to leave a small copy of the controversial contemporary artwork called "Piss Christ" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piss_Christ) in the cache for another person who may like to pick up the piece - would you still share the same sentiment that it is "just swag" ???

 

So if you do see those types of items that you ay find offensive, just make sure you "stay strong" ;)

Link to comment

 

So you abhor proselytizing and it makes you testy finding religion in caches. Okay, thanks for sharing. Perhaps caching isn't for you.

 

Trade even, up or not at all.

 

Oh, caching's for me alright. Organized religion and proselytizing isn't.

Link to comment

Christian or non-Christian, I just don't see how anyone could get upset over swag.

 

It's just junk in a box.

 

Now if it was a religious themed cache, then I could see how a cacher could have an issue with it. Not because it's religious, but because it goes against the guidelines.

 

If you are getting upset about the junk in a box hidden in the woods, or what some other person does or doesn't think about that same junk, you might want to stop and think about your priorities.

 

Just my opinion. ;)

Link to comment

No, I'm not missing the point.

 

When I leave a rosary I'm leaving it for someone who might want it. Just like the kid toy, or the rain poncho, or a copy of Watership Down. I'm just leaving swag, it just happens to be intended for another Catholic.

 

I do understand that someone might think I'm trying to convert them or push my agenda, but I hope they stay strong. :lol:

:D

 

To use analogies again, if a neo-nazi leaves a swastika in a cache so that another neo-nazi who might want it, is this ok with you? Even though the swastika may offend most people. Or something that is closer to your heart - lets say someone wanted to leave a small copy of the controversial contemporary artwork called "Piss Christ" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piss_Christ) in the cache for another person who may like to pick up the piece - would you still share the same sentiment that it is "just swag" ???

 

So if you do see those types of items that you ay find offensive, just make sure you "stay strong" ;)

 

If I'm offended I trade it out. Am I missing how I'm supposed to prevent it from happening? :lol:

 

If it's outside of gc.com guidelines and I can prove it's you trust me, I'll report it. References provided upon request.

 

I' ll be happy to discuss what extreme swag spikes my meter but for the most part, swag ain't worth sweating about.

Link to comment

Christian or non-Christian, I just don't see how anyone could get upset over swag.

 

It's just junk in a box.

 

Now if it was a religious themed cache, then I could see how a cacher could have an issue with it. Not because it's religious, but because it goes against the guidelines.

 

If you are getting upset about the junk in a box hidden in the woods, or what some other person does or doesn't think about that same junk, you might want to stop and think about your priorities.

 

Just my opinion. ;)

 

Oh, if only things were just that black and white, then wouldn't we all be much happier?

 

Unfortunately, we live in a full techno-color world my friend.

 

Geocaching is a game. For many, it is more than just a box in the woods. It is a moment of escape from the daily grind and stresses that we have to deal with every day in our world. A long hike in the woods to a very secluded and beautiful spot only to be et with seeing some token of religion is not what some people really want to see. If folks wanted to see that, there are sooo many other places they can turn to. For most, they just want to see real "junk" such as toy cars, bangles, etc. Silly and funny stuff - nothing heavy handed. That is the whole point of geocaching. Again, it should not be a platform or a vehicle for these types of things, no matter how two or more Christians, Jews, Muslims, etc. feel about it. Why can't we cache is "people" rather than "Christians" or "Jews" - despite what you THINK the Gospels teach, you don't have to bring your religion into EVERYTHING you do especially where others are involved who simply do not want to hear about or or see it.

 

And again, for those PM'ing me, stop. Because if it were entirely up to me, again, nothing short of human body parts in a cache would bother me at all. Bibles, korans, sex toys, porn, ammo, etc. I could care less if it were only me, but I recognize there are children, ladies, Jews, non-Jews, Christians, non-Christians, etc who all visit these caches, so I understand that there are any things that are just not appropriate for a number of reasons. Some reasons very obvious and ones that may be debatable. But nonetheless, I recognize that.

Link to comment

The only 'swag' if you want to call it that, which even remotely offended me was a magazine or newsletter article that showed what happens at certain slaughter houses. The photos definitely were not appropriate and I'm very glad my kids weren't along when I found it.

 

I removed the item, and replaced it with a game... I honestly don't know anyone that would have enjoyed the article, true or not - just not something that needs to be in a cache. That said, someone may have a completely different view - fine. I did what 'I' felt was necessary, which was removing it from circulation and trading ;)

Link to comment

The only 'swag' if you want to call it that, which even remotely offended me was a magazine or newsletter article that showed what happens at certain slaughter houses. The photos definitely were not appropriate and I'm very glad my kids weren't along when I found it.

 

I removed the item, and replaced it with a game... I honestly don't know anyone that would have enjoyed the article, true or not - just not something that needs to be in a cache. That said, someone may have a completely different view - fine. I did what 'I' felt was necessary, which was removing it from circulation and trading ;)

 

And I agree with you. That was not appropriate material. Is it something that would bother me personally? Nope. But again, I can recognize where it would bother any others, so therefore, it is not appropriate. Again, just as religious items while not offensive to most, may be offensive to some.

 

I will only say it one or two more times. After that, it is just pounding sand trying to get people to at least understand my point (you dont have to agree) just understand the context.

Link to comment

I absolutely abhor proselytizing in any form. That probably emanates from spending my formative years in Asia and seeing some of the ugly methods various churches used to convert the indigenous people and the lack of respect some missionaries had for the local religions. Now before any of you reply about the all the good the Christian churches did in Asia don't base that solely upon what you read. If you didn't see it firsthand then you probably don't know all the devious methods they used.

 

So, I get testy with religion crossing over into geocaching.

 

So you abhor proselytizing and it makes you testy finding religion in caches. Okay, thanks for sharing. Perhaps caching isn't for you.

 

Trade even, up or not at all.

 

Yes, and he felt the need to bump a long dead thread to say it! ;) TWU removes religious propaganda from his caches. But I already said that like in post #150 or so like a year ago. :D

Link to comment

A geocacher recently visited one of my Earthcaches where you had to answer questions related to the geology of the area. This cacher decided that he did not agree with any of the geological theories about the area and that it wasn't as old as proven by radiometric and other testing. It was really God who formed the

area 6,000 years ago but "made it look older" - 4.5 million years old!

 

I mean really...why even go for the cache? What was the point for interjecting his religious beliefs?

 

I wanted to ask this cacher: Why on earth would God do that? Didn't (s)he have more important things to do?

Link to comment
And again, for those PM'ing me, stop.

 

Hey bub, you PM'd me and I stopped responding quite some time ago.

 

While I would love to continue beating this horse, the wife says I have to go to bed.

 

'Night all.

 

It wasn't you. You and I actually had a good conversation I thought. It was a couple of others.

 

But since you are off to bed, I hope the intelligence quotient does not take a nose dive for the less educated element that may sneak in. If that happens, then I too will be joining you in never never land ;-)

 

g'night friend!

Link to comment

A geocacher recently visited one of my Earthcaches where you had to answer questions related to the geology of the area. This cacher decided that he did not agree with any of the geological theories about the area and that it wasn't as old as proven by radiometric and other testing. It was really God who formed the

area 6,000 years ago but "made it look older" - 4.5 million years old!

 

I mean really...why even go for the cache? What was the point for interjecting his religious beliefs?

 

I wanted to ask this cacher: Why on earth would God do that? Didn't (s)he have more important things to do?

 

Actually, the religious right wing who try to discredit geological/scientific fact will say the opposite - that "satan made the rock look older" or "satan is deceiving scientists with the numbers derived from radiocarbon dating" - now if he really said "God made it look older" than he is more ignorant the most of the ignorants.

Link to comment
Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.
×
×
  • Create New...