+PopUpPirate Posted August 14, 2007 Share Posted August 14, 2007 The Earthcache requirements state that you need a geological feature to create an earth cache. Earthcache.org is an American site, and our land is very different to that across the pond, as is our history. We have a great many prehistoric sites that are of significant importance, I'm thinking the kind of sites listed on places such as http://www.megalithic.co.uk/, places like Round Loaf on Anglezarke Moor, and various other round barrows, standing stones and the like. What do people think? Quote Link to comment
+Coppers Lot Posted August 14, 2007 Share Posted August 14, 2007 Sounds okay to me - without having actually read into it and found out what your talking about Quote Link to comment
Lactodorum Posted August 14, 2007 Share Posted August 14, 2007 What you are saying makes a lot of sense to me but as the UK reviewers (well Geocaching.com reviewers in general actually) are not involved with Earthcaches I couldn't say. It's probably worth making your point direct to Earthcache.org. I'd be interested to hear what they say. Quote Link to comment
+Sensei TSKC Posted August 14, 2007 Share Posted August 14, 2007 Slightly OT but my bronze Earthcache pin came yesterday! Quote Link to comment
+Gushoneybun Posted August 14, 2007 Share Posted August 14, 2007 We did a couple of earthcaches in Cornwall which were to do with mining, and were the old docks so manmade features seem to be ok Quote Link to comment
+Birdman-of-liskatraz Posted August 14, 2007 Share Posted August 14, 2007 We have loads of standing stones and so on - but I though Earth caches were of a geological background. The Pentewan and Charlestown ones that Gus Honeybun (Can I have the magic button please Gus?!) talks of were built to support the mining in Cornwall so I'd think scrapes in just. I'm not sure how a prehistoric stone ring qualifies as an Earthcache unless the stones themselves are of interest - my guess is it's something the Americans won't have considered (and I mean that in a nice sense) as they lack such features. Worth an ask I'd say. Quote Link to comment
+niffir Posted August 14, 2007 Share Posted August 14, 2007 We have loads of standing stones and so on - but I though Earth caches were of a geological background. The Pentewan and Charlestown ones that Gus Honeybun (Can I have the magic button please Gus?!) talks of were built to support the mining in Cornwall so I'd think scrapes in just. I'm not sure how a prehistoric stone ring qualifies as an Earthcache unless the stones themselves are of interest - my guess is it's something the Americans won't have considered (and I mean that in a nice sense) as they lack such features. Worth an ask I'd say. We *do* have archaeological sites here, you know Some pretty impressive ones, in fact. Not fabulous enough to keep me from becoming a Mesoamerican archaeologist instead of a North American one, though. I haven't really explored waypointing or earthcaching enough to know if archaeological sites are acceptable on either of those sites, but I sure like the idea of having people visit them! Quote Link to comment
+Gushoneybun Posted August 14, 2007 Share Posted August 14, 2007 We have loads of standing stones and so on - but I though Earth caches were of a geological background. The Pentewan and Charlestown ones that Gus Honeybun (Can I have the magic button please Gus?!) talks of were built to support the mining in Cornwall so I'd think scrapes in just. I'm not sure how a prehistoric stone ring qualifies as an Earthcache unless the stones themselves are of interest - my guess is it's something the Americans won't have considered (and I mean that in a nice sense) as they lack such features. Worth an ask I'd say. Lost me on the button, but living where you do I guess you know more about it than I Quote Link to comment
+Birdman-of-liskatraz Posted August 15, 2007 Share Posted August 15, 2007 Gus's Magic Button explained Here. Quote Link to comment
+Gushoneybun Posted August 15, 2007 Share Posted August 15, 2007 Gus's Magic Button explained Here. Many thanks Birdman, now our secret is out Quote Link to comment
+Birdman-of-liskatraz Posted August 15, 2007 Share Posted August 15, 2007 We have loads of standing stones and so on - but I though Earth caches were of a geological background. The Pentewan and Charlestown ones that Gus Honeybun (Can I have the magic button please Gus?!) talks of were built to support the mining in Cornwall so I'd think scrapes in just. I'm not sure how a prehistoric stone ring qualifies as an Earthcache unless the stones themselves are of interest - my guess is it's something the Americans won't have considered (and I mean that in a nice sense) as they lack such features. Worth an ask I'd say. We *do* have archaeological sites here, you know Some pretty impressive ones, in fact. Not fabulous enough to keep me from becoming a Mesoamerican archaeologist instead of a North American one, though. I haven't really explored waypointing or earthcaching enough to know if archaeological sites are acceptable on either of those sites, but I sure like the idea of having people visit them! Thanks for that - goes to read up on the topic. Amazing what you learn onhere. Quote Link to comment
+The Cache Hoppers Posted August 15, 2007 Share Posted August 15, 2007 (edited) Gus's Magic Button explained Here. Being a Cornish lassie I know all about Gus .... and I've got lots of birthday cards off him too in my keepsake box. In my student days, the Student Union kidnapped Gus and held him to ransom to raise funds for Rag Week. Unfortunately, there were more than one so he still appeared on TV that night. Back on topic .... I'd like to see more earthcaches, there must be loads of places worthy of the status. [] Edited August 15, 2007 by The Cache Hoppers Quote Link to comment
+gingerbreadmen Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 The Earthcache requirements state that you need a geological feature to create an earth cache. Earthcache.org is an American site, and our land is very different to that across the pond, as is our history. We have a great many prehistoric sites that are of significant importance, I'm thinking the kind of sites listed on places such as http://www.megalithic.co.uk/, places like Round Loaf on Anglezarke Moor, and various other round barrows, standing stones and the like. What do people think? Darned good idea Mark, Round Loaf huh? Somebody got something planned I wonder? Quote Link to comment
+Simply Paul Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 I like the idea, but Earth Caches are all about education and geology these days. Putting one at a location of special historic/cultural interest rather than a geological one sounds dangerously like a virtual to me P.S. I got my bronze pin and sticker the other day. Very nice Quote Link to comment
+PopUpPirate Posted August 17, 2007 Author Share Posted August 17, 2007 Current earthcaches are of historic interest, as would be earthworks such as tumuli etc. "Cultural interest" is a different thing altogether and not related to earthworks nor geological features I wouldn't expect. Quote Link to comment
+*mouse* Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 When you hide an earth cache you have to classify it e.g. fossil site, cave, costal feature etc.... One of the options is historic site. Maybe you could place an archaeological feature under that category? The reviewer for earthcaches is Geoaware, who was really helpful when I placed my earthcaches. You could always email to see if archaeological sites would be acceptable. Quote Link to comment
+Bambography Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 IMHO an earthcache should be about the earth, Not what we've done to it. You couldn't place one next to a current building/monument, so why should we get one next to one that is ruined? I only did my first earthcache on Tuesday and was interested to read about the geological process/history of the location. If there are archaeological sites that are worth visiting could we not place a multi with details to be gained from the site? Or even a well placed micro ? Quote Link to comment
+PopUpPirate Posted August 17, 2007 Author Share Posted August 17, 2007 (edited) delete double post Edited August 17, 2007 by PopUpPirate Quote Link to comment
+PopUpPirate Posted August 17, 2007 Author Share Posted August 17, 2007 A lot of ancient monuments would be compromised with a physical cache. That's the idea, I believe, behind geological earth caches. An earth cache is a special cache. Quote Link to comment
megalithic Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 (edited) We *do* have archaeological sites here, you know Some pretty impressive ones, in fact. Indeed, and megalithic.co.uk is also the best place to find these: http://www.megalithic.co.uk/search.php?query=&country=21 Cheers Andy Edited August 17, 2007 by megalithic Quote Link to comment
+Team Sieni Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 (edited) Indeed, and megalithic.co.uk is also the best place to find these: Oh NO! Not another website for me to waste my time on This looks fascinating. Thanks Edited to add, and my 2d as far as earthcaches go - I'm sure we have more than enough pure geology in the UK to provide some pretty informative earthcaches without needing to bend the rules to make them archeological instead. Mind you - the thought of including a chalk figure in a "cache" that demonstrated other features of chalk downland does get you thinking. But I'm no geologist, so I'll leave that to those wot know about these things. Edited August 17, 2007 by Team Sieni Quote Link to comment
+Bambography Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 A lot of ancient monuments would be compromised with a physical cache. That's the idea, I believe, behind geological earth caches. An earth cache is a special cache. but not by finding details at the site to use in a multi. Essentially an Earthcache is learning about the location but not finding a physical conatiner afterwards. I believe that most ancient sites could have a cache located outside its boundary using display boards etc as waypoints in a multi, therefore getting the best of both worlds! Quote Link to comment
+geoaware Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 Hi all EarthCaches have to be related to earth science...and therefore a straight historical site (archeological or otherwise) would not meet the guidelines. However, historical mining sites, sites of geological significance (such as Siccar Point...OMG he actually knows a place in the UK...mainly cause he is an Australian ) do fall into the guidelines. Does that help? Geoaware Quote Link to comment
+Simply Paul Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 So would the fact that the stones of Stonehenge actually come from south Wales, 70+ miles away, make it a potential EC location? Quote Link to comment
+geoaware Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 Maybe.....but the original site would be the better location for the EarthCache...cause it would be more about the geology. The use would be the interesting, but side issue. But lets do it...i think it would be neat! Gary Geoaware Quote Link to comment
+Bill D (wwh) Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 I don't think Stonehenge would be possible as an earthcache due to proximity - there's already a virtual there. Quote Link to comment
+Birdman-of-liskatraz Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 I don't think Stonehenge would be possible as an earthcache due to proximity - there's already a virtual there. Judging by some Earthcaches I've done, I don't think proximity comes into it? Quote Link to comment
Deceangi Posted August 24, 2007 Share Posted August 24, 2007 I don't think Stonehenge would be possible as an earthcache due to proximity - there's already a virtual there. Judging by some Earthcaches I've done, I don't think proximity comes into it? Earthcaches are not covered by Proximity checks just like Grandfathered caches [Virtual and Webcam caches] are not covered by the proximity guideline Quote Link to comment
+PopUpPirate Posted September 8, 2007 Author Share Posted September 8, 2007 Well, got me Earthcache published last night, yay! Quote Link to comment
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