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The Jester

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Size does matter. I was just on a trip to Reno with a large TB, and two of the "large" caches were a small & a micro.

 

A film can is a micro - from the guidlines:

Micro (35 mm film canister or smaller – less than approximately 3 ounces or .1 litres -- typically containing only a logbook)
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Neos2

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It is a mirco, I am not sure where you live and what kind of weather you deal with, but several people have said the clear film canisters are more moisture resistant than the black ones.

I've found that color doesn't matter so much as the type of lid. The hard cannister in clear or black that have lids that lids that fit inside the cannister seem more watertight than the film cans that have the soft gray lids that slip over the edge of the cannister.

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CoyoteRed

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....size listing on the cache pages? Micro or small? Does it matter?

The "proper" designation is micro. I've been told some folks are calling them small. I can only guess at the reasoning because, like already mentioned, it says right on the report-a-cache page it's a micro. Maybe they're trying to fool the folks that filter out micros?

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briansnat

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....size listing on the cache pages? Micro or small? Does it matter?

The "proper" designation is micro. I've been told some folks are calling them small. I can only guess at the reasoning because, like already mentioned, it says right on the report-a-cache page it's a micro. Maybe they're trying to fool the folks that filter out micros?

 

Film canisters are definitely a micro, but as micros get smaller and smaller, containers that used to be considered micros are now considered small. Altoids tins are a good example. 5 years ago they were micros, period. Now there is some debate because compared to the new breed of micro micros, they are huge

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J-Way

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As stated earlier and by the "official" Groundspeak definition, a 35mm film cannister is a micro. Basically, anything too small for any type of trade item, TB, or coin (log only, usually no pencil). A "small" can typically hold a few small trade items and 1-2 TB's or coins. A "regular" can hold several trade items/TB's, and a "large" is just large.

 

The itty bitty containers cannot hold trade items and are therefore considered to be micros. If you want to create a new name, then I'd suggest that Groundspeak add a "nano" category. This is the name most commonly used locally to describe the smallest of the small.

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Thrak

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As you have been repeatedly informed above, a film can is a micro. People who list their caches with inappropriate sizes drive me crazy. I've found several "large" caches that were actually a "regular". They are coffee can sized or so. I've found "micro" caches that are plainly "small", "regular" caches that should be listed as "small" or even "micro", and "micro" caches that should really be "small". It's extremely annoying. It really shouldn't be all that difficult to figure out.............

 

(Don't even get me started on the folks who list inappropriate terrain and difficulty ratings........)

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CurmudgeonlyGal

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Hey, have you seen those 'bag size' measuring devices in the airport? "If your bag does NOT fit in this compartment, it has to be checked." (Not used enough, unfortunately.)

 

Maybe we need one of those for 'cache size' determination. Starting with the smallest measuring option: "If your cache container does NOT fit in this 'compartment', you need to test it in the next larger 'compartment'.

 

Add water, rinse, repeat.

 

:(

 

I've found that people who knowingly mislable their 'cache size' fit best in my 'ignore all caches by' GSAK compartment.

 

 

michelle

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Team GeoBlast

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I have seen a few new cachers in urban areas refer to these as "regular" since they find so many of them. They call Decon containers "large".

 

That's funny. "I find film canisters all the time, therefore, they are a regular cache." You have to wonder if they wonder why there's no irregular designation for ammo cans. :(

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jtbrady01

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I know a lot of people are misrepresenting the size of the container to thwart off individuals who hunt down large containers thinking they are ammo cans and steal them. It's not necessarily the right thing to do. Especially when you have a TB to place and you end up finding a micro. But, what else can you do?

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Team Cotati

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As you have been repeatedly informed above, a film can is a micro. People who list their caches with inappropriate sizes drive me crazy. I've found several "large" caches that were actually a "regular". They are coffee can sized or so. I've found "micro" caches that are plainly "small", "regular" caches that should be listed as "small" or even "micro", and "micro" caches that should really be "small". It's extremely annoying. It really shouldn't be all that difficult to figure out.............

 

(Don't even get me started on the folks who list inappropriate terrain and difficulty ratings........)

 

Tell you what pardner, it is pretty danged "difficult" for the PQ filter to figure out though.

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Team Cotati

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....size listing on the cache pages? Micro or small? Does it matter?

The "proper" designation is micro. I've been told some folks are calling them small. I can only guess at the reasoning because, like already mentioned, it says right on the report-a-cache page it's a micro. Maybe they're trying to fool the folks that filter out micros?

 

I don't know if they are "trying" or not. It's working nonetheless, trust me! ;-)

 

And another thing, this idea that only certain well known hiders in each geographic area are abusers of size misstatement and thus it is a simple matter of ignoring their hides, it just plain wrong. While it might be true that such hiders exist, it is not restricted to them in the majority by any stretch of the imagination. And of course when you move about the state or region, this would be irrelevant in any case.

 

Whether or not anything can be done about it is up to debate. Whether or not anything will be done, is not. :blink::P:blink:

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Team Cotati

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A lot of them are leaving the size not selected and then putting the description or size of the cache in the body of the text on the page. So, your PQ won't work at all if you are trying to query out caches by a certain size.

 

I can tell you for certain that that isn't the case with my downloads. They are most definately listed as something greater than a micro when in fact they are micros. To tell you the truth I wasn't even aware that you could get a listing approved with no size stated. That such is allowed is a puzzlement to me. Why have a filter and let non-filterable parameters be allowed?

 

If I filter on 'traditional and virtual' and large, regular, small, virtual I do not expect to get any micro's period. I can not conjure a single valid reason to purposefully violate the size specification rules. Well I can actually, carelessness, immaturity and disrespect.

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Team Cotati

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Looking at the PQ's you have a choice for "Other" and "Unknown". Not sure the for the exact reason(s) for not disclosing the size of the cache. That would be up to the owner to decide. An example of an other is GCH45J.

 

What is it that the owner is deciding? Surely not whether or not to list the size accurately for the express purpose of decieving the caching community.

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Mr.Yuck

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I have seen a few new cachers in urban areas refer to these as "regular" since they find so many of them. They call Decon containers "large".

 

Color me happy that I don't live there! :blink:

 

Uh, me too, I guess. :blink: I'm surprised this conversation is even happening. My experience is the exact opposite, with people listing super-sized prescription pill bottles or decon containers as micros!! Never have seen a film can listed as anything but a micro. Ah, you have to love the regional differences in caching. :P

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Team Cotati

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I have seen a few new cachers in urban areas refer to these as "regular" since they find so many of them. They call Decon containers "large".

 

Color me happy that I don't live there! :blink:

 

Uh, me too, I guess. :) I'm surprised this conversation is even happening. My experience is the exact opposite, with people listing super-sized prescription pill bottles or decon containers as micros!! Never have seen a film can listed as anything but a micro. Ah, you have to love the regional differences in caching. :blink:

 

True true. Excuse making must be fairly regionalized also. Thank God for small miracles. :P:):)

I never anticipated that purposeful deception would someday become a laudable character trait.

Life is truly full of surprises. :):):D

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