+Rhaegar's Jewels Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 I pre-purchased some of these coins several weeks ago, back when they were micros, then got an email that they were going to be full sized coins, and it seems like I had an email saying that these should be coming out soon. Anyone have an update? Quote Link to comment
+The Moop Along Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 It's a multi coin design by SoCalGeocoins, good luck. Quote Link to comment
+tw3nty3ight Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 It's a multi coin design by SoCalGeocoins, good luck. Quote Link to comment
+Rhaegar's Jewels Posted August 1, 2007 Author Share Posted August 1, 2007 (edited) oh no...between the "good luck" and the - I think that must mean that I'm in trouble. Edited August 1, 2007 by Rhaegar's Jewels Quote Link to comment
+Rhaegar's Jewels Posted October 4, 2007 Author Share Posted October 4, 2007 UGH! I hate to bring this up, again, but I paid for these coins in June and I'm still waiting and now SoCalGeocoins isn't even responding to my emails when I ask for an update. Anyone know anything about these coins? Or how to actually get in touch with SoCalGeocoins? Quote Link to comment
+AtwellFamily Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 UGH! I hate to bring this up, again, but I paid for these coins in June and I'm still waiting and now SoCalGeocoins isn't even responding to my emails when I ask for an update. Anyone know anything about these coins? Or how to actually get in touch with SoCalGeocoins? Hopefully you paid through Paypal and just file a claim. If they can't prove the product was shipped, paypal will take the money right out of their account. As for SoCal, they were given a hard time about their selling techniques a little while back. I am sure a number of people decided to stop buying from them and it has hurt their business. I haven't seen much posted by them in that time. good Luck. Quote Link to comment
+9Key Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 Buy from trusted sources. I've seen it time and time again - new folks selling coins that either don't deliver promised coins or have massive delays. The Russian doll coin seems to be the most recent occurance. Quote Link to comment
+9Key Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 UGH! I hate to bring this up, again, but I paid for these coins in June and I'm still waiting and now SoCalGeocoins isn't even responding to my emails when I ask for an update. Anyone know anything about these coins? Or how to actually get in touch with SoCalGeocoins? I think you have 90 days to file a claim with Paypal, so if you paid for the coins in June you might be out of luck. Quote Link to comment
+Rhaegar's Jewels Posted October 4, 2007 Author Share Posted October 4, 2007 I emailed SoCalGeocoins last Friday and hadn't heard anything, so today in addition to posting here - I emailed again and filed a claim with PayPal and so I got an answer... When I emailed in August I got an email back saying there was a problem at the mint and the coins were expected in at the beginning of September and this time there was a "hold up" at the mint and they are expected within the next two weeks. I'm disappointed but I said that I expect the coins in hand or my money back by the end of this month. I don't know what else to do. Frankly what I find the most frustrating is that I have to email them constantly and ask what's going on - shouldn't the vendor update the customers? I guess I'm really just ranting at this point, but somehow I suspect there are others here who feel my pain. Thanks for listening/reading! Quote Link to comment
+fairyhoney Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 "I'm disappointed but I said that I expect the coins in hand or my money back by the end of this month. I don't know what else to do. Frankly what I find the most frustrating is that I have to email them constantly and ask what's going on - shouldn't the vendor update the customers? I guess I'm really just ranting at this point, but somehow I suspect there are others here who feel my pain." Yes, you'd think that the vendor would keep us up to date Quote Link to comment
+zazth Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 I've bought a few coins from different sources on a pre-sale. One of the coins was late and I too, had to e-mail the person to find out the coin was held up at the mint. You only have so much control over coin production. I've heard of Many coins being delayed because of the mint or customs. I guess what amazes me is how one person makes a coin and sells it here via presale, their coin is late, they are slow to notify people but the backlash is either nonexistant or slight while another person has the same issue and is persecuted here in the forums?? Just an outsider looking in. I'm not a part of any cliques nor do I want to be. Mandy Quote Link to comment
+AtwellFamily Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 I've bought a few coins from different sources on a pre-sale. One of the coins was late and I too, had to e-mail the person to find out the coin was held up at the mint. You only have so much control over coin production. I've heard of Many coins being delayed because of the mint or customs. I guess what amazes me is how one person makes a coin and sells it here via presale, their coin is late, they are slow to notify people but the backlash is either nonexistant or slight while another person has the same issue and is persecuted here in the forums?? Just an outsider looking in. I'm not a part of any cliques nor do I want to be. Mandy Part of the difference could be pre-sales -vs- reservations. Pre-Sales is taking money up front. I think people get more upset when these type of transaction go wrong. For reservations, no one is out any money usually until the coins are in hand. big difference if reservation coins get pushed out, then pre-sales coins. the other big difference is communcation. I had the 2007 colorado coin get pushed out and I had done pre-sales on that coin. I posted in the form as well as sent emails keeping all informed. not difficult and no matter who you are, it works. Unless of course it is a consistant practice. Hope you do get your coins! Quote Link to comment
+zazth Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 I got the coin, late but still it was the coin I had ordered and paid for ahead of time. I did not feel it was necesary to flog the seller in the forums. If he/she had the coin in hand they would have mailed it out. I ordered the presale Colorado set from you. At that point in time I did not frequent the forums near as much as I do now so I did not know the coin was late until I e-mailed you and you responded back. Not a big deal. It happens. If you buy coins then you have to be aware that they are not always on time production or shipment wise. Unless the coin has been shipped and an excessive amount of time has passed, I tend to not get too worked up about it. You buy a coin presale, then accept the risk involved in how long it may take to get it. The seller should send out a notification when set backs occur to EVERY CUSTOMER THAT HAS PAID. Not just post in the forums or e-mail the ones that you know personally. Quote Link to comment
glennk721 Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 This is sad !! But these folks are continuing to sell on ebay full force !! Continued sales All trackable so link does not violate forum rules, Quote Link to comment
+Rhaegar's Jewels Posted October 5, 2007 Author Share Posted October 5, 2007 (edited) If you buy coins then you have to be aware that they are not always on time production or shipment wise. Unless the coin has been shipped and an excessive amount of time has passed, I tend to not get too worked up about it. You buy a coin presale, then accept the risk involved in how long it may take to get it. Well, it's been four months from when I prepaid which seems excessive to me. I guess I've been spoiled - I ordered a set of Dragonflies and there were problems at the mint because of the resin wings but there were all kinds of email updates to keep me, well, updated. I guess I expect people who are operating a business to conduct themselves in a professional manner - if you made a purchase from Amazon.Com or Circuit City and the product didn't show up for FOUR MONTHS and no one would even do you the courtesy of telling you when they were expected - would that be okay? I guess the other question would have to be - what's your definition of "too worked up about it"? I've brought this to the forum twice with two months between the original post and then today, desperately looking for answers or to share information with anyone else who is waiting on these coins because while the money is not going to break my I certainly can't afford to throw money away either. Edited October 5, 2007 by Rhaegar's Jewels Quote Link to comment
+zazth Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 You are not dealing with a corporation but a private vendor, this makes a huge difference. Too worked up: I might not buy again from that vendor, dependent upon the final outcome, but I certainly wouldn't chime in to tell another person having a problem how I had a negative experience and therefore they should expect one too. Four months is definately excessive. I'm usre you are not the only one who bought this coin nor are you the only one to probably e-mail. This still does not address the issue which I have a problem with. Your comments were valid as a purchaser. The flogging that seems to go on here to certain people is not. Definately not when you do the comparisons. Quote Link to comment
+AtwellFamily Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 You are not dealing with a corporation but a private vendor, this makes a huge difference. Too worked up: I might not buy again from that vendor, dependent upon the final outcome, but I certainly wouldn't chime in to tell another person having a problem how I had a negative experience and therefore they should expect one too. Four months is definately excessive. I'm usre you are not the only one who bought this coin nor are you the only one to probably e-mail. This still does not address the issue which I have a problem with. Your comments were valid as a purchaser. The flogging that seems to go on here to certain people is not. Definately not when you do the comparisons. In this thread, can you show me the flogging you are talking about? I just don't see it. A few warnings and someone watching the thread with popcorn but no flogging. I have seen SoCal flogged but not in this thread. They got flogged for exactly what is happengin now. They come in and sell coins but don't participate in the community. A number of people (an I'm saying I am in that group) would like to see people who sell coins participate in the community, not just try and make a buck off of it. Especially the small designers and coin makers doing this as something on the side. Back to the question, where are they being flogged in this thread? Quote Link to comment
+The Moop Along Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 I'd love to flog them, but it would fall on deaf ears. I can't stress enough RESEARCH your vendors before you do business with them. Not buying coins from someone speaks volumes, even on Ebay. Remember the names and their associated Ebay IDs that do you wrong, and tread lightly (or not at all) in the future. Particular vendors might just keep on sellin', but if no ones buyin . . . . To the OP, I sure hope you get your money back, and you can move on to better sales. Quote Link to comment
+zazth Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 You are not dealing with a corporation but a private vendor, this makes a huge difference. Too worked up: I might not buy again from that vendor, dependent upon the final outcome, but I certainly wouldn't chime in to tell another person having a problem how I had a negative experience and therefore they should expect one too. Four months is definately excessive. I'm usre you are not the only one who bought this coin nor are you the only one to probably e-mail. This still does not address the issue which I have a problem with. Your comments were valid as a purchaser. The flogging that seems to go on here to certain people is not. Definately not when you do the comparisons. In this thread, can you show me the flogging you are talking about? I just don't see it. A few warnings and someone watching the thread with popcorn but no flogging. I have seen SoCal flogged but not in this thread. They got flogged for exactly what is happengin now. They come in and sell coins but don't participate in the community. A number of people (an I'm saying I am in that group) would like to see people who sell coins participate in the community, not just try and make a buck off of it. Especially the small designers and coin makers doing this as something on the side. Back to the question, where are they being flogged in this thread? I made the observation that SOME people get flogged in the FORUMs for the same practices others are guilty of and are not subject to the same treatment. So, back to that OBSERVATION. Quote Link to comment
+9Key Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 A number of people (an I'm saying I am in that group) would like to see people who sell coins participate in the community, not just try and make a buck off of it. Especially the small designers and coin makers doing this as something on the side. Right on brother! Quote Link to comment
+zazth Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 When you say participating in the community, what exactly do you mean? Posting on the forums? Finding caches? Placing caches? Buying other peoples coins? Define, please. Quote Link to comment
+Lotho Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 When you say participating in the community, what exactly do you mean? Posting on the forums? Finding caches? Placing caches? Buying other peoples coins? Define, please. My thoughts too. I can only guess they mean they do not hold cointests and stuff..? Quote Link to comment
+AtwellFamily Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 When you say participating in the community, what exactly do you mean? Posting on the forums? Finding caches? Placing caches? Buying other peoples coins? Define, please. In the coin community and forum. Still don't see any flooging in this thread. Quote Link to comment
+zazth Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 I hadn't thought about that angle! So if a small company began to make geocoins and gave away one or two here in the forums, would they be considered "active" in the community? What if the owner wasn't even a geocacher but merely a savy entrepreneur looking to make a profit? Quote Link to comment
+zazth Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 When you say participating in the community, what exactly do you mean? Posting on the forums? Finding caches? Placing caches? Buying other peoples coins? Define, please. In the coin community and forum. Still don't see any flooging in this thread. Post #19 Never said it was in this thread. This was an overall observation of the forums in the past few months. Are you asking to be flogged? Quote Link to comment
+zazth Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 When you say participating in the community, what exactly do you mean? Posting on the forums? Finding caches? Placing caches? Buying other peoples coins? Define, please. In the coin community and forum. Still don't see any flooging in this thread. Does being a member suffice? OR are you talking about posting to various threads? Coin Community? Is there some sort of secret society? I look at geocoins as another facet of Geocaching. Like Travel bugs. Quote Link to comment
+The Moop Along Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 I hadn't thought about that angle! So if a small company began to make geocoins and gave away one or two here in the forums, would they be considered "active" in the community? What if the owner wasn't even a geocacher but merely a savy entrepreneur looking to make a profit? There is currently one person I can think of that is NOT a geocacher, and strictly buys gc.com tracking codes, and makes geocoins for $20-$40 each. That to me would fit your definition of "savy entrepeneur", but I have a different word for it. Unfortunately, that word would show up as ************** in here I would recommend one thing though. We've been hijacking this poor thread from someone who is actually in crisis, discussing forum etiquette. Might we open another thread on it, and let the OP wallow in their poor choice of vendors? Quote Link to comment
+zazth Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 Just thinking the same thing myself, sorry about that. Really hope the coin does get to you as it was the reason you spent money on a pre-sale in the first place. Quote Link to comment
+Rhaegar's Jewels Posted October 6, 2007 Author Share Posted October 6, 2007 Moop, thanks for letting me wallow...*sigh* I just got blinded by the pretty dragon, I will definitely pay closer attention next time. I saw the coin preview on another site, but if I knew then what I know now... In the meantime I'm just crossing my fingers that this story has a happy ending. Quote Link to comment
+Rhaegar's Jewels Posted November 8, 2007 Author Share Posted November 8, 2007 Well, I am sure you are all surprised that I still don't have these coins yet, and we're back to SoCalGeoCoins ignoring my emails. Was anyone else foolish enough to order them or was it just me? Quote Link to comment
+MustangJoni Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 Well, I am sure you are all surprised that I still don't have these coins yet, and we're back to SoCalGeoCoins ignoring my emails. Was anyone else foolish enough to order them or was it just me? Nope, I have seen several of their coins at events and have been unimpressed with the quality. Quote Link to comment
+ThirstyMick Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 Well, I am sure you are all surprised that I still don't have these coins yet, and we're back to SoCalGeoCoins ignoring my emails. Was anyone else foolish enough to order them or was it just me? I'm sorry to hear that!! Quote Link to comment
+slippery_1 Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 Several threads ago I saw a couple of Mods actual threaten to close that thread because they got away from discussing coins and trading coins. Now I see this is going much the same way that thread went. If you have issue with others including venders, then perhaps this would be better suited to be taken below the line, or discussed in private, so the rest of us do not have to read your specific likes dislikes. Not everyone can be in the top 10 traders or venders, but I suppose trying something gives the right to at least have the same right everyone else here deserves. Not to be bashed in public. And thats my rant for the day. Bye for now, Happy trails. Quote Link to comment
+MustangJoni Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 I thought in forums we did discuss our specific likes and dislikes? Quote Link to comment
+Jackalgirl Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 Several threads ago I saw a couple of Mods actual threaten to close that thread because they got away from discussing coins and trading coins. Now I see this is going much the same way that thread went. If you have issue with others including venders, then perhaps this would be better suited to be taken below the line, or discussed in private, so the rest of us do not have to read your specific likes dislikes. Not everyone can be in the top 10 traders or venders, but I suppose trying something gives the right to at least have the same right everyone else here deserves. Not to be bashed in public. And thats my rant for the day. Bye for now, Happy trails. I'm pretty new here, but I'm not sure that you can separate coins from vendors. Those of us who are not active traders (or who are still building up our collections to become traders) have to go to vendors to get our coins - barring, of course, eBay. Yes? So it's a pretty tall order to demand that we only discuss coins and not discuss the vendors, especially when the vendors are free to come in here and advertise (as well as defend themselves, if the charges are entirely unwarranted). I for one appreciate these kinds of threads. They help give me more data points. And I am perfectly able to look into a company and read the WHOLE thread about a company and decide whether I think the complaint is an overreaction or an attempt to be spiteful, so don't worry about someone losing my business because of something posted here (not that you are, of course). But I /do/ want to know if someone has ordered coins from a vendor and has gotten nothing, /especially/ no response to emails, for upwards of 5 months... Quote Link to comment
+PLnauta Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 Well, I am really, really, new here. I 'm a geocacher and since i found my first geocoin i decided i should have my own collection. I start reading here, buying on a few places, and it would be quite nice to have more of this discussions on the forum. I had quite luck i'd found really good sellers, you probably know who they are, but i would like to being able to tell here what i think of them. That could be interesting for new collectors. With this thread i defenitivly delete one seller from my list. There are lots of good sellers, even individuals, where we can find good coins and the experiences (bad ones either) of other geocachers are of great interest to the community PL ps. why can we start doing a rating system for coin sellers. Quote Link to comment
+MustangJoni Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 Well, I am really, really, new here. I 'm a geocacher and since i found my first geocoin i decided i should have my own collection. I start reading here, buying on a few places, and it would be quite nice to have more of this discussions on the forum. I had quite luck i'd found really good sellers, you probably know who they are, but i would like to being able to tell here what i think of them. That could be interesting for new collectors. With this thread i defenitivly delete one seller from my list. There are lots of good sellers, even individuals, where we can find good coins and the experiences (bad ones either) of other geocachers are of great interest to the community PL ps. why can we start doing a rating system for coin sellers. LOL - I'd rather do one for traders, but that would never be allowed! Quote Link to comment
+zazth Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 I have ordered coins from the mentioned vendor. Mike ordered some from their store without an issue. I ordered a pre-sale a month or so ago. No word yet but I haven't e-mailed either. Eventually I will if I don't hear anything from them. Quote Link to comment
+Mr.Explorer3 Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 Well, I am sure you are all surprised that I still don't have these coins yet, and we're back to SoCalGeoCoins ignoring my emails. Was anyone else foolish enough to order them or was it just me? I have been waiting for them also. Quote Link to comment
+tadpole379 Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 Well, I am really, really, new here. I 'm a geocacher and since i found my first geocoin i decided i should have my own collection. I start reading here, buying on a few places, and it would be quite nice to have more of this discussions on the forum. I had quite luck i'd found really good sellers, you probably know who they are, but i would like to being able to tell here what i think of them. That could be interesting for new collectors. With this thread i defenitivly delete one seller from my list. There are lots of good sellers, even individuals, where we can find good coins and the experiences (bad ones either) of other geocachers are of great interest to the community PL ps. why can we start doing a rating system for coin sellers. LOL - I'd rather do one for traders, but that would never be allowed! Ebay does it...but you would need one system that everyone uses for it to be functional. Quote Link to comment
avroair Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 There is currently one person I can think of that is NOT a geocacher, and strictly buys gc.com tracking codes, and makes geocoins for $20-$40 each. That to me would fit your definition of "savy entrepeneur" Sounds like a good business plan, buy low sell high! Unfortunately, bad clip art and zinc coins don't cut it for me. Quote Link to comment
+earthrooster Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 Well, add me to the list of the unhappy. I can't get through to these people (socalgeocoins.com) via email and I'm beyond the 45 day limit to dispute through PayPal. Does anyone have any suggestions? Quote Link to comment
+HoggerJeff & the Piglets Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 Y'know, I REALLY wish I had seen this forum topic BEFORE I pre-ordered the entire set of 5 Spiral Dragon coins in each of 3 finishes from these people. This was back in Jan of this year. I've emailed several times and was always told that the coins should be shipped any time now. I've since requested a refund through paypal, but they aren't even answering those. Can I file a dispute with Paypal within 45 days of requesting a refund payment? Quote Link to comment
+fairyhoney Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 Y'know, I REALLY wish I had seen this forum topic BEFORE I pre-ordered the entire set of 5 Spiral Dragon coins in each of 3 finishes from these people. This was back in Jan of this year. I've emailed several times and was always told that the coins should be shipped any time now. I've since requested a refund through paypal, but they aren't even answering those. Can I file a dispute with Paypal within 45 days of requesting a refund payment? Or even purchasing the "Crystal Dragon Geocoin" and not getting them Quote Link to comment
+MustangJoni Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 I use this criteria before I buy a coin on that is a pre-sale: 1. Does the person or company selling have a good track record for pre-sales? 2. Is there a sample of the coin? If you are going to do a pre-sale, at least invest the money to get the die made first. I will generally make an exception if it is a geocaching organization doing the selling. 3. Do they give a delivery date for the coins? I see several companies, including this one, pre-sell coins, but never tell you when to expect them. You should know this if you are selling a coin. Someone recently said that they were going to start filing a paypal complaint at day 44. This is an excellent idea. When done properly, coins do not take 45 days to mint. I have yet to be burned buying coins. I have not ordered a single coin that I have not received. Quote Link to comment
+Mr.Explorer3 Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 I prepaid for my coins over a year ago. I guess this person had fun with the money rather than worrying about their reputation. Quote Link to comment
+AtwellFamily Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 Adding Fuel!!!! They same company pre-ordered some of my Colorado 2008 coins and they have yet to pay the invoice. The coins will go into sotck and be on my site in a week or so. Good Luck. Quote Link to comment
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