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I like to leave highly radioactive Polonium inside of caches. I notice this isn't on your list. Does that make this okay?

Most excellent! I too love to leave fissionable materials in caches, including large mases of enriched uranium and even vials of the fabled Red Mercury. In fact, this is why I proposed two weeks ago on these forums that I should perhaps create a "Radioactive Isotope Hotel" geocache.

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UPDATED CACHE CONTENTS

 

logbook

ballpoint pen

felt tip pen

rollerball pen

pencil

ziplocs

mctoys, clean

mctoys, broken

golf balls, new

golf balls, used

golf tees, new (packaged)

golf tees, new (loose)

golf tees, used

golf tees, broken

matches, book

matches, boxed

matches, safety

match holder, empty

lighter, usable

lighter, disabled

pocketknife

multitool with knife

multitool without knife

flashlight, self-contained

flashlight, removable batteries w/batteries

flashlight, removable batteries w/o batteries

batteries, loose

batteries, packaged

batteries, ziploc-ed

eyeglass repair kit

small screwdriver set

nails or screws, new

nails or screws, rusty

carabiner

scratchoff lottery tickets

ammunition, any caliber

spent brass

fireworks

coupon to big store (under $2)

coupon to cafe near cache

gift card (over $2)

advertising brochures

political brochures

political buttons

books, fiction

books, nonfiction

books, adult content

bible

koran

torah

miniature talmud

i ching

tarot deck

book of mormon

bhagavad-gita

religious tract, soft (simply a prayer or inspirational thought)

religious tract, hard (tells you a specific way or else.)

rosary beads

silver pentacle

cross

mogen david

food, perishable

food, unwrapped

food, wrapped

food, canned or otherwise preserved and sealed

hamster, live (sorry, lep.)

hamster, freshly dead

hamster, very dead

candles, scented

candes, unscented

lip balm, opened

lip balm, unopened

sunscreen, communal (belongs to the cache)

sunscreen, regular (trade item)

bug dope, communal

bug dope, regular

first aid kit, communal

first aid kit, regular

feminine hygiene products, clean and wrapped (either as what they are or as first aid supplies)

prophylactics, new and packaged

emergency toilet paper rolls

firestarter

emergency blanket

handwarmers

compass

alcoholic beverage

coupon for alcoholic beverage

promotional material for alcoholic beverage (hats, keychains, etc.)

tobacco product

coupon for tobacco product

promotional material for tobacco product

OTC drugs (e.g., ibuprofen)

prescription drugs

illegal drugs

drug paraphenalia

clothing or other items that refer to illegal drugs

recorded music

illegally recorded music (this includes that awesome mix tape.)

software

out-of-date software

software sent free to you in the mail

illegal copies of software

material that is derogatory to any specific group of people based on membership in that group (this is often used to mean both racial or ethnic groups and membership in voluntary organizations. e.g., blacks, hispanics, muslims, presbyterians, armenians, military personnel, log cabin republicans, what-have-you.)

cito bags

objects or printed material of a suggestive sexual nature

objects or printed material of an explicit sexual nature

miscellaneous scented items

rubber gloves

polonium or other highly radioactive material

crayons, loose

crayons, boxed

crayons, ziploc-ed

local flora

local fauna

ordinary rock, picked up on the trail

polished rock

significant or interesting geologic sample

coins, domestic

coins, foreign or historic

geocoins, trackable

geocoins or similar, untrackable

smashed pennies

wooden nickels

poker chips, blank

poker chips, printed or otherwise marked

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Lets just skip to the end. :tired:

 

logbook

ballpoint pen

felt tip pen

rollerball pen

pencil

ziplocs

mctoys, clean

mctoys, broken

golf balls, new

golf balls, used

golf tees, new (packaged)

golf tees, new (loose)

golf tees, used

golf tees, broken

matches, book

matches, boxed

matches, safety

match holder, empty

lighter, usable

lighter, disabled

pocketknife

multitool with knife

multitool without knife

eyeglass repair kit

small screwdriver set

scratchoff lottery tickets

ammunition, any caliber

spent brass

coupon to big store (under $2)

coupon to cafe near cache

gift card (over $2)

advertising brochures

political brochures

political buttons

books, fiction

books, nonfiction

books, adult content

bible

koran

torah

miniature talmud

i ching

tarot deck

book of mormon

bhagavad-gita

religious tract, soft (simply a prayer or inspirational thought)

religious tract, hard (tells you a specific way or else.)

rosary beads

silver pentacle

cross

mogen david

food, perishable

food, unwrapped

food, wrapped

food, canned or otherwise preserved and sealed

hamster, live (sorry, lep.)

hamster, freshly dead

hamster, very dead

candles, scented

candes, unscented

lip balm, opened

lip balm, unopened

sunscreen, communal (belongs to the cache)

sunscreen, regular (trade item)

bug dope, communal

bug dope, regular

first aid kit, communal

first aid kit, regular

feminine hygiene products, clean and wrapped (either as what they are or as first aid supplies)

prophylactics, new and packaged

emergency toilet paper rolls

firestarter

emergency blanket

handwarmers

compass

alcoholic beverage

coupon for alcoholic beverage

promotional material for alcoholic beverage (hats, keychains, etc.)

tobacco product

coupon for tobacco product

promotional material for tobacco product

OTC drugs (e.g., ibuprofen)

prescription drugs

illegal drugs

drug paraphenalia

clothing or other items that refer to illegal drugs

recorded music

illegally recorded music (this includes that awesome mix tape.)

software

out-of-date software

software sent free to you in the mail

illegal copies of software

material that is derogatory to any specific group of people based on membership in that group (this is often used to mean both racial or ethnic groups and membership in voluntary organizations. e.g., blacks, hispanics, muslims, presbyterians, armenians, military personnel, log cabin republicans, what-have-you.)

cito bags

objects or printed material of a suggestive sexual nature

objects or printed material of an explicit sexual nature

miscellaneous scented items

rubber gloves

polonium or other highly radioactive material

crayons, loose

crayons, boxed

crayons, ziploc-ed

local flora

local fauna

ordinary rock, picked up on the trail

polished rock

significant or interesting geologic sample

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Okay, I have to remove the

 

miscellaneous scented items

 

I might also have to take the rubber gloves depending on how stinky the smelly stuff is . . . :D And, I sure hope I have my own CITO bag with me to wrap this stuff in. If not, I might need to take a CITO bag . . . :tired:

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Okay, I have to remove the

 

miscellaneous scented items

 

I might also have to take the rubber gloves depending on how stinky the smelly stuff is . . . :D And, I sure hope I have my own CITO bag with me to wrap this stuff in. If not, I might need to take a CITO bag . . . :tired:

This cache must be pretty large to fit all of this bad stuff. I wonder if it's a 5-gallon bucket that is buried in the ground....
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remember that if all the items look okay to you, you don't have to ask for anything to be removed.

 

at first i thought everything would eventually be removed, but now i think a few things will be left. i'm not at all sure which ones.

 

maybe i should sell tickets to the exciting denoument.

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remember that if all the items look okay to you, you don't have to ask for anything to be removed.

 

at first i thought everything would eventually be removed, but now i think a few things will be left. i'm not at all sure which ones.

 

maybe i should sell tickets to the exciting denoument.

I think at a minimum we should keep the logbook. Pens and pencils would be a good idea to keep as well. I actually like the lottery ticket. I like carabiners too, but those weren't on the list.
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the list is always growing. consider carabiners to be added.

 

i've had a request to remove the book of mormon.

 

remember that we are not debating the choices here; it is important for the purposes of this experiment to just add or subtract.

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the list is always growing. consider carabiners to be added.

 

i've had a request to remove the book of mormon.

 

remember that we are not debating the choices here; it is important for the purposes of this experiment to just add or subtract.

I really like cool foreign coins. Add those too! :tired:
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polonium or other highly radioactive material

 

Hahahaha, you are joking right?

well, yes and no. while it is very amusing and i do not believe the request to have been in earnest, there was a request for it.

Just jumping in here to help out a bit... In my area, we cachers regularly leave large amounts of fissionable radioactive isotopes (primarily isotopes of americium, radium, uranium, thorium, polonium or plutonium) in geocaches, as well as fully-cooked and ready-to-eat gourmet meals, sushi and sashimi (the food items are usually packed into small Rubbermaid containers which will fit inside the cache container, and as long as they are found and eaten within three months of having been emplaced, they are usually pretty tasty and nutritious), small cans of gasoline to assist cachers whose cars may be running low on gas, live hamsters (it is considered TOTALLY insulting to leave dead hamsters or to leave gerbils, whether live or dead, BTW) and cans of smokeless gunpowder for use in refilling shells or making homemade improvised explosive devices (IEDs.) Such conventions vary widely from region to region: I remember when I hunted geocaches up in Washington state, near where one of Boeing's plants were located, many local cachers who were also Boeing employees would often leave fully-assembled Pratt & Whitney J57 turbojet engines (which were leftovers from assembly line runs) as trade items in caches, and when I hunted caches in Central NJ near a pharmaceutical plant, many local cachers who were employees of the pharmaceutical manufacturing facility would leave packages of pharmaceutical drugs which had failed Quality Assurance (QA) testing (and thus could not be officially sold) as trade items.

 

And, in the same vein, one of the most heartwarming stories I have heard is that of the behavior of cachers in the Southeastern USA who work at a large mortuary. They often leave harvested human body parts (primarily hearts, livers, kidneys, pancreas, etc.) in geocaches as trade items for possible use as future transplant organs by cache finders. In the NYC-NNJ area, which sports the headquarters of several major blood banks, geocachers who are also employees of those organizations often leave pints of blood -- fully labeled as to type, subtype and RH factor, and ready-to-use -- as trade items in geocaches.

 

So, geocache trade items will vary markedly from area to area, and -- aside from recruiting materials for the First International Church of Paris Hilton, which are frowned upon in many parts of the world -- it is obvious that there are no rights and wrongs in this realm, and rather, everything is okay when it comes to use as a trade item. This is, to me, as it should be, and as the Creator intended, else She would not have given us those items in the first place.

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remember that if all the items look okay to you, you don't have to ask for anything to be removed.

 

at first i thought everything would eventually be removed, but now i think a few things will be left. i'm not at all sure which ones.

 

maybe i should sell tickets to the exciting denoument.

I think at a minimum we should keep the logbook. Pens and pencils would be a good idea to keep as well. I actually like the lottery ticket. I like carabiners too, but those weren't on the list.

 

I requested the removal of the ballpoint pen, please don't add it back.

 

Other than the items that are obviously against geocaching.com guidelines I am not offended enough by then to call for their removal.

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I requested the removal of the ballpoint pen, please don't add it back.

 

Other than the items that are obviously against geocaching.com guidelines I am not offended enough by then to call for their removal.

 

i am not returning items to the list once they've been taken off, and for the purposes of this exercise i don't care why anyone wants a thing removed or added.

 

outside of silly items like polonium (which corrected itself in under an hour), if people play straight we'll actually have some interesting if not useful information.

 

as the answers pile up, we may end up with a short list of generally accepted items. at some point later we may have some kind of objective data about how likely it is that your item will offend someone. it may not change whether you leave it or not, but you may wish to know. we may know later which items are most popular.

 

that'd all be interesting data.

 

meantime, i hope it's a good entertainment, 'coz more than anything i like entertainment.

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remember that if all the items look okay to you, you don't have to ask for anything to be removed.

 

at first i thought everything would eventually be removed, but now i think a few things will be left. i'm not at all sure which ones.

 

maybe i should sell tickets to the exciting denoument.

I think at a minimum we should keep the logbook. Pens and pencils would be a good idea to keep as well. I actually like the lottery ticket. I like carabiners too, but those weren't on the list.

 

I requested the removal of the ballpoint pen, please don't add it back.

 

Other than the items that are obviously against geocaching.com guidelines I am not offended enough by then to call for their removal.

Sorry about that I don't know what got into me. How about a fine tipped Sharpie. Those will even write on wet soggy logbooks! :anibad:
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remember that if all the items look okay to you, you don't have to ask for anything to be removed.

 

at first i thought everything would eventually be removed, but now i think a few things will be left. i'm not at all sure which ones.

 

maybe i should sell tickets to the exciting denoument.

I think at a minimum we should keep the logbook. Pens and pencils would be a good idea to keep as well. I actually like the lottery ticket. I like carabiners too, but those weren't on the list.

 

I requested the removal of the ballpoint pen, please don't add it back.

 

Other than the items that are obviously against geocaching.com guidelines I am not offended enough by then to call for their removal.

Sorry about that I don't know what got into me. How about a fine tipped Sharpie. Those will even write on wet soggy logbooks! :anibad:

 

I've never had a sharpie leak so they are okay in my book. I just hope that the logbook survives or we will have to sign the cache container itself. :P

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My Appropriate Scale is two fold.

Anything legal for minor’s to come into contact with is ok in a cache.

However not all things are suitable for a cache for other reasons.

 

Of your list that wasn’t crossed out this is what I’d remove and why.

 

matches, book (Flammable Issue Probably fine).

matches, safety (Flammable Issue Probably fine).

lighter, usable (Flammable Issue Probably fine).

mogen david (Mad Dog 20/20 is not for minors).

food, wrapped (Bad Idea in a cache, attracts animals)

food, canned or otherwise preserved and sealed (Bad Idea in a cache, freezes and bleeds, then attracts animals)

candes, unscented (melts all over the contents)

lip balm, opened (melts all over the contents)

lip balm, unopened (melts all over the contents)

firestarter (Depends on what it is and how it’s packaged. Some melt, some burn, some are fine)

polonium or other highly radioactive material (If it’s controlled you would need a permit to have it to begin with. It’s not available to the general public. That said, per my permit if I found such a loose source I’d have to call it in and close off the area until the authorities arrived and relieved me.).

 

Some of those I’d not think twice about letting remain in some caches that remain cool rather than baked in the sun. Ditto caches that don’t freeze.

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i do not wish to have a debate here, but simply for you to note which items on the list of cache contents you would remove as inappropriate. as the list dwindles, i'll re-post with the changes.

 

DIRECTIONS

 

-read the list.

-decide which single item seems to you to be the most inappropriate.

-post the one item to this thread. please do not editorialize; there are at least two open threads where people are editorializing.

 

if you feel that i've missed some common or worrisome cache contents, please feel free to send me a message and i'll add it to the list. my list is by no means exhaustive and if you have in mind items that are either appropriate or inappropriate, they should be included. if you feel an item is offensive to you and you don't want to be publicly identified, you may contact me and i'll post your entry anonymously.

 

it is my hope that the most worrisome or offensive items will leave the list first.

 

 

UPDATED CACHE CONTENTS

 

logbook

ballpoint pen

felt tip pen

rollerball pen

pencil

ziplocs

mctoys, clean

mctoys, broken

golf balls, new

golf balls, used

golf tees, new (packaged)

golf tees, new (loose)

golf tees, used

golf tees, broken

matches, book

matches, boxed

matches, safety

match holder, empty

lighter, usable

lighter, disabled

pocketknife

multitool with knife

multitool without knife

flashlight, self-contained

flashlight, removable batteries w/batteries

flashlight, removable batteries w/o batteries

batteries, loose

batteries, packaged

batteries, ziploc-ed

eyeglass repair kit

small screwdriver set

nails or screws, new

nails or screws, rusty

carabiner

scratchoff lottery tickets

ammunition, any caliber

spent brass

fireworks

coupon to big store (under $2)

coupon to cafe near cache

gift card (over $2)

advertising brochures

political brochures

political buttons

books, fiction

books, nonfiction

books, adult content

bible

koran

torah

miniature talmud

i ching

tarot deck

book of mormon

bhagavad-gita

religious tract, soft (simply a prayer or inspirational thought)

religious tract, hard (tells you a specific way or else.)

rosary beads

silver pentacle

cross

mogen david

food, perishable

food, unwrapped

food, wrapped

food, canned or otherwise preserved and sealed

hamster, live (sorry, lep.)

hamster, freshly dead

hamster, very dead

candles, scented

candes, unscented

lip balm, opened

lip balm, unopened

sunscreen, communal (belongs to the cache)

sunscreen, regular (trade item)

bug dope, communal

bug dope, regular

first aid kit, communal

first aid kit, regular

feminine hygiene products, clean and wrapped (either as what they are or as first aid supplies)

prophylactics, new and packaged

emergency toilet paper rolls

firestarter

emergency blanket

handwarmers

compass

alcoholic beverage

coupon for alcoholic beverage

promotional material for alcoholic beverage (hats, keychains, etc.)

tobacco product

coupon for tobacco product

promotional material for tobacco product

OTC drugs (e.g., ibuprofen)

prescription drugs

illegal drugs

drug paraphenalia

clothing or other items that refer to illegal drugs

recorded music

illegally recorded music (this includes that awesome mix tape.)

software

out-of-date software

software sent free to you in the mail

illegal copies of software

material that is derogatory to any specific group of people based on membership in that group (this is often used to mean both racial or ethnic groups and membership in voluntary organizations. e.g., blacks, hispanics, muslims, presbyterians, armenians, military personnel, log cabin republicans, what-have-you.)

cito bags

objects or printed material of a suggestive sexual nature

objects or printed material of an explicit sexual nature

miscellaneous scented items

rubber gloves

polonium or other highly radioactive material

crayons, loose

crayons, boxed

crayons, ziploc-ed

local flora

local fauna

ordinary rock, picked up on the trail

polished rock

significant or interesting geologic sample

coins, domestic

coins, foreign or historic

geocoins, trackable

geocoins or similar, untrackable

smashed pennies

wooden nickels

poker chips, blank

poker chips, printed or otherwise marked

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i do not wish to have a debate here, but simply for you to note which items on the list of cache contents you would remove as inappropriate. as the list dwindles, i'll re-post with the changes.

 

DIRECTIONS

 

-read the list.

-decide which single item seems to you to be the most inappropriate.

-post the one item to this thread. please do not editorialize; there are at least two open threads where people are editorializing.

 

if you feel that i've missed some common or worrisome cache contents, please feel free to send me a message and i'll add it to the list. my list is by no means exhaustive and if you have in mind items that are either appropriate or inappropriate, they should be included. if you feel an item is offensive to you and you don't want to be publicly identified, you may contact me and i'll post your entry anonymously.

 

it is my hope that the most worrisome or offensive items will leave the list first.

 

 

UPDATED CACHE CONTENTS

 

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Weren't some of those items already removed? Either way, I'll take out matches, safety.
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.

:rolleyes:

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I don't know what these things are:

 

i ching

bhagavad-gita

fauna

 

:D

 

From the remaining list I would take off:

 

loose crayons.

 

And, HEY, what happened to the log GOOK? You can't not have log gook in a cache container. It's a natural occurance.

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Take out Flora and Fauna, which are basically plants and animals. Unless they are fully encased or embedded in plastic like a keychain fob or paperweight.

 

Throw in keyfobs and paperweights, as long as whatever is encased or embedded in the plastic or lexan won't make some kid cry upon seeing it.

 

For my wife remove any rubber snakes, for me remove any realistic looking spiders unless the spider is embedded in a paperweight.

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unless the spider is embedded in a paperweight.

 

That's so sad!! :laughing:

Poor spiders. They like geocaching too.

 

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No doubt. I was just down in southernmost Texas and took some relatives on a short geocache hunt with their kids. Pulled a cache bucket out of the brush and it had a huge-ish spider on the side of it. Banged the bucket on the ground to temporarily relocate the cache guarding spider, opened it up, did the swap and log book signing, closed it up and put it back in the brush. I can only assume the cache guarding spider found it's way back to it's guard station on the side of the bucket in the brush.

 

The bulk of the contents of the cache were soaps and samples of beauty products and some small sewing kits, wasn't sure about all of that but I'm sure some finders liked it.

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