+Delawhere Posted July 9, 2007 Posted July 9, 2007 Am I supposed to post an "Owner Maintenance" log when I check on a cache and everything was fine? There were no DNFs or problems noted prior to my visit, I just wanted to see how the cache was holding up. Thanks Quote
+FamilyDNA Posted July 9, 2007 Posted July 9, 2007 Am I supposed to post an "Owner Maintenance" log when I check on a cache and everything was fine? There were no DNFs or problems noted prior to my visit, I just wanted to see how the cache was holding up. Thanks If the cache didn't really need maintenance, you could log your visit with a note. You don't have to log anything, if you don't want to. Quote
+gpsfun Posted July 9, 2007 Posted July 9, 2007 Posting an owner maintenance log is a good way to let those considering searching for your cache know that it has been checked recently and should be in good shape. This is more helpful if the cache is in a location where it is not visited frequently. If there has been a needs maintenance log posted, I believe posting an owner maintenance log will remove the needs maintenance attribute from the cache page. I'm sure someone will correct this if I am wrong. Quote
+Lil Devil Posted July 9, 2007 Posted July 9, 2007 "Owner Maintenance" logs are mostly just a note to yourself (and sometimes the reviewers look at them too) to remember when you maintained the cache. I like to note every visit to my caches so I can remember what I did. With dozens of caches out there, it's hard to remember when I last replaced the logbook on a given one. Quote
+briansnat Posted July 9, 2007 Posted July 9, 2007 Sure. You made a maintenance visit. Makes sense to log it as owner maintenance. Quote
mtbikernate Posted July 9, 2007 Posted July 9, 2007 I would log it...for the reasons others suggested. But also...why wouldn't you log it? You were there and saw the cache was in good shape. Makes sense to me. Quote
+Trucker Lee Posted July 9, 2007 Posted July 9, 2007 In summary: not required, but a good idea as a personal reminder to yourself of when you last checked that cache, as an adviser to seekers that the cache is maintained and looking for it most likely won't be a waste of time, and as an adviser to your reviewer that you are keeping up with your responsibilities as a cache owner. A good idea! Quote
+RockyRaab Posted July 9, 2007 Posted July 9, 2007 I agree. It's something I always do. When I consider looking for a cache and see a recent owner note, I'm not only reassured that the cache is there, but that it's in decent shape. Warm fuzzy feeling. Quote
+BlueDeuce Posted July 9, 2007 Posted July 9, 2007 Every time you post an Owner Maintenance log an angel gets its wings. Quote
+fox-and-the-hound Posted July 9, 2007 Posted July 9, 2007 Definitely! You'll notice that it reflects now in the icons at the bottom of the cache page description as well. If you're going there to check on it, you are in fact in the act of maintaining your cache. It let's people know you care (including your reviewer) and people considering visiting your cache. Quote
+Renegade Knight Posted July 9, 2007 Posted July 9, 2007 Am I supposed to post an "Owner Maintenance" log when I check on a cache and everything was fine? There were no DNFs or problems noted prior to my visit, I just wanted to see how the cache was holding up. Thanks I wouldn't unless doing so would get people back to looking for the cache again. Quote
+simplyred Posted July 10, 2007 Posted July 10, 2007 We usually post a note unless we do have to do maintenance. A maintenance log doesn't insure the cache is in good shape, we just checked on a cache and it was stolen, thrown away or whatever happened to it, it was gone the next day a cacher went to it. We just went out today to see for ourselves and placed a new temporary container (cache) until we get another better cache container for it. Our first cache to go missing, Sheesh. Quote
+imajeep Posted July 10, 2007 Posted July 10, 2007 As a hunter, I always appreciate an owner maintenance log, or an owner note, when a cache gets a routine check. It lets me know the owner keeps up with their caches, which IMHO makes it more likely to be worthwhile. Quote
+Arrow One Posted July 10, 2007 Posted July 10, 2007 I always log an owner maintenence log when I check on a cache. It does'nt have to have a problem to check on it, and I can look back to see when the last time I was there. Quote
Trinity's Crew Posted July 10, 2007 Posted July 10, 2007 (edited) You can handle a visit however you see fit. It's your cache. I also log an owner maintenance visit whenever I check on one of my caches. I usually re-stock it anyway, and as others have said it lets others know that the cache was recently overhauled and in good shape. Edited July 10, 2007 by Trinity's Crew Quote
+sbell111 Posted July 10, 2007 Posted July 10, 2007 If the cache didn't have any DNFs or maintenance issues reported, I generally wouldn't post an online log for routine maintenance visits. The reason that I don't is because this will show up as one of the five logs a PQ. Some cachers like to read these logs in teh field if they have trouble finding it. My routine maintenance log could make their needed clue unavailable. Quote
+Hose502 Posted July 11, 2007 Posted July 11, 2007 But if you revisit a cache as a non-owner to drop off a travel bug and it hasn't been "found" in six months, log another find to update the "last time found" field in the database to show that it still is there, in good condition, and could be useful in queries, that is very taboo and you will get your head cut off for doing so because it bumps up your counter which is important for some reason. Quote
+ventura_kids Posted July 11, 2007 Posted July 11, 2007 If you check on a cache, then YES... log it as owner maintenance. Sometimes cachers are afraid to travel to a cache, yet will once they see the owner verified it's existance. Quote
wandat24 Posted July 11, 2007 Posted July 11, 2007 (edited) Am I supposed to post an "Owner Maintenance" log when I check on a cache and everything was fine? There were no DNFs or problems noted prior to my visit, I just wanted to see how the cache was holding up. Thanks I sometimes check on mine no matter what and tend to post the owners maintenance log just because I can. Edited July 11, 2007 by wandat24 Quote
+BlueDeuce Posted July 11, 2007 Posted July 11, 2007 If the cache didn't have any DNFs or maintenance issues reported, I generally wouldn't post an online log for routine maintenance visits. The reason that I don't is because this will show up as one of the five logs a PQ. Some cachers like to read these logs in teh field if they have trouble finding it. My routine maintenance log could make their needed clue unavailable. Being the cache owner, I guess if I was really that concerned someone couldn't find my cache because they didn't get to read previous logs I should probably provide a better hint. Quote
+sbell111 Posted July 11, 2007 Posted July 11, 2007 If the cache didn't have any DNFs or maintenance issues reported, I generally wouldn't post an online log for routine maintenance visits. The reason that I don't is because this will show up as one of the five logs a PQ. Some cachers like to read these logs in teh field if they have trouble finding it. My routine maintenance log could make their needed clue unavailable.Being the cache owner, I guess if I was really that concerned someone couldn't find my cache because they didn't get to read previous logs I should probably provide a better hint.I guess this is that one thing that you and I disagree on, huh? Quote
+BlueDeuce Posted July 11, 2007 Posted July 11, 2007 If the cache didn't have any DNFs or maintenance issues reported, I generally wouldn't post an online log for routine maintenance visits. The reason that I don't is because this will show up as one of the five logs a PQ. Some cachers like to read these logs in teh field if they have trouble finding it. My routine maintenance log could make their needed clue unavailable.Being the cache owner, I guess if I was really that concerned someone couldn't find my cache because they didn't get to read previous logs I should probably provide a better hint.I guess this is that one thing that you and I disagree on, huh? That should they need to, you want people looking for your cache to rely on the last five logs in hopes there is relevant information to help find it? Okay I mean I don't mind getting rid of clutter logs like 'Bug drop' I just don't see having posting that give clues to finding caches as some sort of obligation. Telling me the cache is intact and available to find is certainly much more of a important owner responsibility in my book. If the owner does maintenance and the "I hung the cache back on the limb' post falls off the list, fine by me. Just my opinion. Quote
+sbell111 Posted July 11, 2007 Posted July 11, 2007 (edited) If the cache didn't have any DNFs or maintenance issues reported, I generally wouldn't post an online log for routine maintenance visits. The reason that I don't is because this will show up as one of the five logs a PQ. Some cachers like to read these logs in teh field if they have trouble finding it. My routine maintenance log could make their needed clue unavailable.Being the cache owner, I guess if I was really that concerned someone couldn't find my cache because they didn't get to read previous logs I should probably provide a better hint.I guess this is that one thing that you and I disagree on, huh?That should they need to, you want people looking for your cache to rely on the last five logs in hopes there is relevant information to help find it? Okay I mean I don't mind getting rid of clutter logs like 'Bug drop' I just don't see having posting that give clues to finding caches as some sort of obligation. Telling me the cache is intact and available to find is certainly much more of a important owner responsibility in my book. If the owner does maintenance and the "I hung the cache back on the limb' post falls off the list, fine by me. Just my opinion. My feeling is that if there has been no indication of a problem with the cache, I don't see the point of my logging a 'performed maintenance' simply because I glanced at it when I was in the neighborhood. In my opinion, the log is as much of a 'clutter log' as the 'bug drop' log. I can see why you enter a performed maintenance log in these situations, but I don't really see the benefit in the owner telling everyone that the cache is still there and in good shape when there was no indication of a problem. By the way, my last post should be taken as 'tongue in cheek' only. Edited July 11, 2007 by sbell111 Quote
+BlueDeuce Posted July 11, 2007 Posted July 11, 2007 My feeling is that if there has been no indication of a problem with the cache, I don't see the point of my logging a 'performed maintenance' simply because I glanced at it when I was in the neighborhood. In my opinion, the log is as much of a 'clutter log' as the 'bug drop' log. I can see why you enter a performed maintenance log in these situations, but I don't really see the benefit in the owner telling everyone that the cache is still there and in good shape when there was no indication of a problem. Fair enough. I don't disagree with you there. By the way, my last post should be taken as 'tongue in cheek' only. Ah, maybe I should go have my dinner since I seem to be taking the bait so easily. Quote
+sbell111 Posted July 11, 2007 Posted July 11, 2007 My feeling is that if there has been no indication of a problem with the cache, I don't see the point of my logging a 'performed maintenance' simply because I glanced at it when I was in the neighborhood. In my opinion, the log is as much of a 'clutter log' as the 'bug drop' log. I can see why you enter a performed maintenance log in these situations, but I don't really see the benefit in the owner telling everyone that the cache is still there and in good shape when there was no indication of a problem. Fair enough. I don't disagree with you there. By the way, my last post should be taken as 'tongue in cheek' only.Ah, maybe I should go have my dinner since I seem to be taking the bait so easily. I considered adding a 'smiley', but didn't bother. Quote
+Miragee Posted July 12, 2007 Posted July 12, 2007 I took a hike today to check on some of my caches. I found one had been stolen, one had been tossed into the bushes without any care taken to rehide it, one had fallen down an embankment and needed to be rehidden, another one needed to be moved slightly, and another one was fine. I posted Owner Maintenance notes. Quote
+Harry Dolphin Posted July 12, 2007 Posted July 12, 2007 I post owner maintenance notes whenever I visit any of my caches. Quote
+The Leprechauns Posted July 12, 2007 Posted July 12, 2007 When you're able to retrieve, check and replace your cache 20 feet away from where three police officers are holding a suspect at gunpoint, you bet you're gonna want to post an owner maintenance log. Quote
+SidAndBob Posted July 12, 2007 Posted July 12, 2007 I find it depends on the cache. If the cache has been visited regularly and there are no logs indicating a problem I won't usually log a maintenance visit as I can't see it achieves anything. Quote
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