+DocDiTTo Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 I have a cache that uses a decon container held in place by a nylon cord. Unfortunately, the nylon cord has proven to be less than reliable on multiple occasions (animuggles might be chewing it). Fishing line is out, too easy to chew through. I'm thinking of replacing the cord with wire of some sort, but I'm not sure what the best wire is to use. It would have to be weather proof and not easily seen. GI Trip wire is something that I'm considering, but I don't know if it would rust through. Anyone have experience with that? Or another type of wire that's tough to see and suitable for holding a cache in place in all sorts of weather? Quote Link to comment
+Too Tall John Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 What are you attaching it to? Quote Link to comment
Clan Riffster Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 Assuming they still use the same stuff, GI tripwire has a pretty high carbon count, which will lead to it rusting fairly kwick. It's been a couple decades since my Army days, so things may have changed. I've noticed that my parachord tethers are also getting gnawed on. My replacement of choice is the thinnest chain I could find at my local hardware store. It looks light enough that I could pull it apart. After I secure it to a tree, (or whatever), and the cache, I wrap it in cheap camo duct tape. The tape is not all that sturdy, but as it degrades, it actually adds to the camo effect. One of my multis involves a bunch of quarter sized aluminum disks stamped with letters/number, hung from branches of trees. I used green gardening wire to hang them. They've lasted over a year. I wouldn't hang anything heavier with it, though. Quote Link to comment
+FamilyDNA Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 I have a cache attached to a tree branch with a plastic zip tie. Quote Link to comment
+DocDiTTo Posted July 2, 2007 Author Share Posted July 2, 2007 I like Clan Riffster's chain and camo tape idea. I think anything plastic or nylon will get chewed up by the native furry-tailed rodents. I've also confirmed that GI tripwire will rust -- no good there. A thin cable like a bicycle brake cable might work too... something about that thickness that's tough to see but strong enough to resist the squirrels, mice, and other paracord-chomping creatures that inhabit the area. Quote Link to comment
Clan Riffster Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 Zip ties are a lot tougher than I give them credit for. I found myself in a rush to set up a 4 stage multi, using bison tubes giving clues to the final, an ammo can. I had some zip ties handy, and used them to attach the bison tubes loosely to branches, thinking that I would replace them with something tougher in a week or so. It's been over a year, and they are still fine. Good stuff! Quote Link to comment
+gpsfun Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 You might also try steel leader from your local fishing supply store. It is designed to resist damage due to the razor sharp teeth of certain fish species and is available in various lengths. Quote Link to comment
CoyoteRed Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 (edited) Steel leader is good. Coated steel cable from the hardware store is good. Buy a swagging tool. If you're going to use cable ties make sure you get the ones that say right on the package UV safe. Otherwise they go brittle in very short order and break. EDIT TO ADD: depending on your situation, standard single strand grounding wire might work. It's pretty stiff, designed to go outside, and a hit or two of flat Krylon should make it hide in shadows. Edited July 2, 2007 by CoyoteRed Quote Link to comment
+StarBrand Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 I've had good luck with just plain uncoated copper wire. Takes on a very nice natural "sheen" within a few months and holds very well. Quote Link to comment
Bag o'Tricks Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 I've used very thin stainless picture-hanging wire with very good results. Quote Link to comment
+Knight2000 Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 Steel leader is good. Coated steel cable from the hardware store is good. Buy a swagging tool. What he said. If you cant find at the hardware store you can find it where they sell garage door accessories at the hardware store. They come in plastic baggies to repair garage doors. No need to buy the swagging tool. Just use saddle clamps. The tool works better, but the clamps are cheaper if you just need it for a few. Quote Link to comment
vagabond Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 You might also try steel leader from your local fishing supply store. It is designed to resist damage due to the razor sharp teeth of certain fish species and is available in various lengths. And breaking strengths Quote Link to comment
+Renegade Knight Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 I'd use bailing wire. Mostly since that's what I have handy. It bends easily, will rust but not all that quick. It's cheap. Quote Link to comment
Zurcher Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 I use stainless steel fishing line! I think it is soft monel? the stuff we use to fish for bluefish in long island sound in CT / NY. zurch. Quote Link to comment
+ScarabDrowner Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 I know of a source to get small quantities of titanium wire. You can even get it anodized green to help it blend in. 100 feet of 24 gauge green anodized titanium wire on a spool will cost about 15 bucks. Quote Link to comment
+faststepper Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 Try some wire used for beading, braclets, necklaces, Comes in diffrent sizes, stainless steel and plastic coated. Pick up some crimping rings too. Quote Link to comment
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