Bryan Posted June 15, 2007 Posted June 15, 2007 For those of you who receive the weekly cache notification emailer from Groundspeak, you may have seen this announcement already. For those of you who don't, here it is: The 2007 Jeep Geocaching Challenge begins on July 1st, 2007 in the USA. This year, it's a red die-cast Jeep Commander vehicle with a Travel Bug tag attached. As of today, we're enlisting geocachers to hide approximately 8,000 Jeep Travel Bugs in caches located in the lower 48 United States. If you are interested in placing a 2007 Jeep Travel Bug into a cache near you, please complete the request form, located here (while supplies last): http://jeep.geocaching.com/signup/ Visit http://jeep.geocaching.com on July 1st for details about the 2007 Jeep Geocaching Challenge. Quote
+BWidget Posted June 15, 2007 Posted June 15, 2007 Why are they asking for my geocaching password? Quote
Bryan Posted June 15, 2007 Author Posted June 15, 2007 Why are they asking for my geocaching password? We are asking in order to make sure that you are you. Quote
+StarBrand Posted June 15, 2007 Posted June 15, 2007 Why are they asking for my geocaching password? They is geocaching.com - to verify you are who you say you are. Quote
+Jeremy Posted June 15, 2007 Posted June 15, 2007 (edited) Groundspeak matches a Jeep Travel Bug to each account that requests it. That way we can make sure that the Travel Bugs are shipped to each account and it allows us to check back to make sure that the person drops it off into a cache (like the user agreed to). They is Groundspeak. Everything *.geocaching.com is owned by Groundspeak. Edited June 15, 2007 by Jeremy Quote
Clan Riffster Posted June 15, 2007 Posted June 15, 2007 Whoo Hoo!! More Jeeps!! My request has been submitted. Quote
+StarBrand Posted June 15, 2007 Posted June 15, 2007 How many Geocachers does it take to answer........nevermind...... Any pics of the new bugs somewhere?? Quote
+007BigD Posted June 15, 2007 Posted June 15, 2007 You can have my password!!!! Just send me a Red Jeep! Cant wait to show this guy around!!! It will be doin some serious 4-Wheelin...We'll see how it holds up! Quote
+Aiden's Cachers Posted June 15, 2007 Posted June 15, 2007 I have yet to hold a Jeep I hope I get one Quote
+BWidget Posted June 15, 2007 Posted June 15, 2007 http://forums.Groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=164293 How many Geocachers does it take to answer........nevermind...... Any pics of the new bugs somewhere?? Quote
+Jeremy Posted June 15, 2007 Posted June 15, 2007 Any pics of the new bugs somewhere?? We're still chopping up images for the new site. I'll post a link back to the request form when I add the photo there. It is a Red Jeep Commander this year. Quote
Pto Posted June 15, 2007 Posted June 15, 2007 Any pics of the new bugs somewhere?? We're still chopping up images for the new site. I'll post a link back to the request form when I add the photo there. It is a Red Jeep Commander this year. Cool! I'll keep an eye on this thread for updates! Quote
+Jeremy Posted June 15, 2007 Posted June 15, 2007 I added it to the signup page: http://jeep.geocaching.com/signup/ For the lazies: Quote
Pto Posted June 15, 2007 Posted June 15, 2007 I added it to the signup page: http://jeep.geocaching.com/signup/ For the lazies: Holy smal tires Quote
+cachorganic Posted June 15, 2007 Posted June 15, 2007 Why is it not possible for non U.S. residents to apply for one. I would like to have one running in my part of Europe (Holland) If anyone can help getting me one I would be most gratefull! Quote
+sTeamTraen Posted June 15, 2007 Posted June 15, 2007 Why is it not possible for non U.S. residents to apply for one. I would like to have one running in my part of Europe (Holland) If anyone can help getting me one I would be most gratefull! Because the nice people at Jeep USA Marketing, who pay for it, think it's probably a better use of their advertising dollars if the jeeps are released to and/or near people who might buy their product. Once they're activated, don't worry, some will find their way across the pond to us. Quote
+scobey Posted June 15, 2007 Posted June 15, 2007 (edited) Why is it not possible for non U.S. residents to apply for one. I would like to have one running in my part of Europe (Holland) If anyone can help getting me one I would be most gratefull! Non U.S. residents - That's a good one considering that U.S. Residents living in Alaska and Hawaii can't get one!!! There are probably more Jeeps in Alaska than any 2 states combined!!! So what is the REAL story about why Alaskan's and Hawaiian's are excluded?????? Edited June 15, 2007 by scobey Quote
+stepshep Posted June 15, 2007 Posted June 15, 2007 Sent in my request. Small tires, you think they would crush under the weight of the car..lol Quote
+TicksNChiggers Posted June 15, 2007 Posted June 15, 2007 Request sent. Too bad it's not a SRT8! Quote
+Cpt.Blackbeard Posted June 15, 2007 Posted June 15, 2007 Whoo Hoo!! More Jeeps!! My request has been submitted. Ditto!!! Quote
+Harry Dolphin Posted June 16, 2007 Posted June 16, 2007 Non U.S. residents - That's a good one considering that U.S. Residents living in Alaska and Hawaii can't get one!!! There are probably more Jeeps in Alaska than any 2 states combined!!! So what is the REAL story about why Alaskan's and Hawaiian's are excluded?????? Alaska's a state? When did that happen??? (Okay, I'm old enough to remember when Alaska became a state. I do find humorous the phrase 'lower 48 states.' Hawaii is lower than most states. Perhaps they should have used the phrase 'conterminous 48 states'?) Quote
+W5IEM Posted June 16, 2007 Posted June 16, 2007 Can't wait to put out a few Jeeps and watch them disappear less than a week after they are released. Seriously, I have never owned one of these TB's, but I have noticed that they are the most stolen TB's out there, which is just sad. I have found one, moved it on, and I believe it was stolen very soon afterwards... ALostTexan Quote
+HaLiJuSaPa Posted June 16, 2007 Posted June 16, 2007 (edited) Why is it not possible for non U.S. residents to apply for one. I would like to have one running in my part of Europe (Holland) If anyone can help getting me one I would be most gratefull! Non U.S. residents - That's a good one considering that U.S. Residents living in Alaska and Hawaii can't get one!!! There are probably more Jeeps in Alaska than any 2 states combined!!! So what is the REAL story about why Alaskan's and Hawaiian's are excluded?????? This is just a guess, and kind of sad, but they (Jeep) probably figure it costs too much to ship to AK and HI (though it's not that much more, and if they us the US Postal Service instead of UPS, etc. it probably doesn't cost more at all). The company I work for used to run a mass marketing program for a Fortune 500 company, and the program excluded the two states for that reason. I thought it was pretty crass, especially since the program involved charities. Edited June 16, 2007 by HaLiJuSaPa Quote
vtmtnman Posted June 16, 2007 Posted June 16, 2007 I want to put in for one but I won't be able to drop it for at least one month from now.Can I still put in? Quote
+LaTuFu Posted June 16, 2007 Posted June 16, 2007 (edited) Usually marketing stuff that is restricted to the mainland U.S. has to do with "bang for the buck". The cost to get the product in question to the outerlying areas isn't usually justified in return on the investment due to the population (or lack thereof). For the cost of marketing exposure to all 5 residents in Juneau you could get the same exposure to most of the residents of Massachusetts. Much more effective targeting. (Before you start, I'm fully aware there are more than 5 people in Juneau. There's 7.) In the case of this specific promotion, this wouldn't necessarily be a problem since there might be more cachers per capita in Alaska than in Massachusetts. Since the marketing company isn't normally set up for it, it was probably more costly to do it that way, so back to the lower 48. We'll give up our ability to participate in sweepstakes and giveaways in exchange for your annual pipeline payout. Fair trade? Edited June 16, 2007 by LaTuFu Quote
+murfster Posted June 16, 2007 Posted June 16, 2007 The application form has a spot for "Province" and "Postal Code"?? EH! Quote
+HB-vanislelady Posted June 16, 2007 Posted June 16, 2007 (edited) The application form has a spot for "Province" and "Postal Code"?? EH! Well I am in BC and I applied.....I figure since I drive a Jeep and there is a spot for my Province & PC that...No Harm No Foul...Hope I get one!!! Edited June 16, 2007 by hike n'bike Quote
+HaLiJuSaPa Posted June 16, 2007 Posted June 16, 2007 Usually marketing stuff that is restricted to the mainland U.S. has to do with "bang for the buck". The cost to get the product in question to the outerlying areas isn't usually justified in return on the investment due to the population (or lack thereof). For the cost of marketing exposure to all 5 residents in Juneau you could get the same exposure to most of the residents of Massachusetts. Much more effective targeting. (Before you start, I'm fully aware there are more than 5 people in Juneau. There's 7.) In the case of this specific promotion, this wouldn't necessarily be a problem since there might be more cachers per capita in Alaska than in Massachusetts. Since the marketing company isn't normally set up for it, it was probably more costly to do it that way, so back to the lower 48. We'll give up our ability to participate in sweepstakes and giveaways in exchange for your annual pipeline payout. Fair trade? I also have a feeling that due to the very rugged terrain, there are probably more Jeeps per capita in Alaska as well (maybe also Hawaii). Quote
+Bad_CRC Posted June 16, 2007 Posted June 16, 2007 anyone have figures on this? they say 8000 is that the same/more/less than previous years? just curious. Quote
Trinity's Crew Posted June 16, 2007 Posted June 16, 2007 I think it's more. I'm pretty sure the YJTB was around 5,000. I'm not sure about the other Jeeps. Quote
+Theseus Posted June 16, 2007 Posted June 16, 2007 Why is it not possible for non U.S. residents to apply for one. I would like to have one running in my part of Europe (Holland) If anyone can help getting me one I would be most gratefull! Non U.S. residents - That's a good one considering that U.S. Residents living in Alaska and Hawaii can't get one!!! There are probably more Jeeps in Alaska than any 2 states combined!!! So what is the REAL story about why Alaskan's and Hawaiian's are excluded?????? There are several old posts from past years regarding this topic. The answer is that Hawaii and Alaska have different laws regarding contests like this that prohibit the Jeep contest running in those two states. This is a gross generalization, of course, but that's the gist of it. A forum search will turn up a more precise answer. Quote
+stites1 Posted June 16, 2007 Posted June 16, 2007 We just applied today. This is a poor substitute for the Wrangler we sold 5 years ago and still mourn, but at least it's something. Quote
+chancerider Posted June 16, 2007 Posted June 16, 2007 Woohoo! Just submitted a request... I was lucky enough to release one last year and the FIRST person who picked it up, logged it and.... never did a dang thing with it after that . I know just the perfect spot to release one now... Quote
+Too Tall John Posted June 16, 2007 Posted June 16, 2007 I also have a feeling that due to the very rugged terrain, there are probably more Jeeps per capita in Alaska as well (maybe also Hawaii). There are probably more Jeeps in Alaska than any 2 states combined!!!While it kinda stinks that Alaska & Hawaii are excluded from this promotion, I can understand the reasoning if the states don't allow such contests. Jeep could probably get into legal trouble if it appeared they were running a contest in a place it was outlawed. That aside, my initial reaction to the above quotes is: If Jeeps are already saturating the market, why advertise in that market? Quote
+ecflcacher Posted June 16, 2007 Posted June 16, 2007 I've requested one. Hope I get it. I know a good cache to start it off in. Quote
+Lakeshore Geocachers Posted June 17, 2007 Posted June 17, 2007 Got our name in for one...we have to laugh tho...last year it was a Rescue, a vehicle Jeep will never make, this year a Commander...a vehicle Jeep will most likely drop after this model year...If they do release 8000 of them, that's more than Jeep sold! So where do offbeat Jeep designs go to die? as TB's! Quote
+Glenn Posted June 17, 2007 Posted June 17, 2007 Just a reminder. Now would be a good time to start sending last years Green Jeep Travel Bugs to the second class citizen states of Hawaii and Alaska. Is anyone planning a FEEP release of the Red Jeeps? BTW: Why are people still using the term lower 48 states? That hasn't been an accurate term even since Hawaii join the USA and became the most southern (lowest) state in 1959. Quote
Phatfish16 Posted June 17, 2007 Posted June 17, 2007 Non U.S. residents - That's a good one considering that U.S. Residents living in Alaska and Hawaii can't get one!!! There are probably more Jeeps in Alaska than any 2 states combined!!! So what is the REAL story about why Alaskan's and Hawaiian's are excluded?????? Alaska's a state? When did that happen??? (Okay, I'm old enough to remember when Alaska became a state. I do find humorous the phrase 'lower 48 states.' Hawaii is lower than most states. Perhaps they should have used the phrase 'conterminous 48 states'?) Or the contiguous U.S. states. They probably don't ship to Alaska and Hawaii because the shipping charges are a little more epxensive to get to those 2 states than the, here's another one, continental U.S. states. But that's just my 2 cents and I'm not a postal worker, UPS employee, nor a Fedex employee and I don't have any true statistics to back that statement up. I'm basing it on the fact that whenever I ship something to Hawaii or Alaska it costs more than to ship to anywhere in the "lower 48". (I'm referring to Ebay experience.) Quote
+Jeepfun Posted June 17, 2007 Posted June 17, 2007 We made our request for the new Jeep TB yesterday. Last year we were able to get one and put it out. Didn't stay out that long. Some bone head in the OKC area has an issue with the Jeep TBs and they steal them from caches and keep them. Not too bright of a thief since they take them to other states and let other cachers discover them at events. I just don't get people like that.. Quote
+AnotherPirate Posted June 17, 2007 Posted June 17, 2007 Groundspeak matches a Jeep Travel Bug to each account that requests it. That way we can make sure that the Travel Bugs are shipped to each account and it allows us to check back to make sure that the person drops it off into a cache (like the user agreed to). They is Groundspeak. Everything *.geocaching.com is owned by Groundspeak. So.. lets say I am paranoid. How long afterI submit for a jeep with my password can I change my password just to feel safe again? Quote
+CENTEX92 Posted June 17, 2007 Posted June 17, 2007 I finally found a jeep yesterday...A 2005 white TB...Ill send it on its way soon. I put my order in this morning, I hope It comes in...I got a great new cache that Im going to hold off on publishing until they come out. Quote
FlagFinder Posted June 17, 2007 Posted June 17, 2007 next year lets give them tinted windows, spinners, flames, and lots of chrome! Quote
+Michael Posted June 17, 2007 Posted June 17, 2007 Groundspeak matches a Jeep Travel Bug to each account that requests it. That way we can make sure that the Travel Bugs are shipped to each account and it allows us to check back to make sure that the person drops it off into a cache (like the user agreed to). They is Groundspeak. Everything *.geocaching.com is owned by Groundspeak. So.. lets say I am paranoid. How long afterI submit for a jeep with my password can I change my password just to feel safe again? It is no different than logging in to the website. Your password is checked then. Do you change your password every time you log in? Change it now if it makes you feel safer. The check is done when you submit the request. Quote
+Cpt.Blackbeard Posted June 17, 2007 Posted June 17, 2007 Groundspeak matches a Jeep Travel Bug to each account that requests it. That way we can make sure that the Travel Bugs are shipped to each account and it allows us to check back to make sure that the person drops it off into a cache (like the user agreed to). They is Groundspeak. Everything *.geocaching.com is owned by Groundspeak. So.. lets say I am paranoid. How long afterI submit for a jeep with my password can I change my password just to feel safe again? So you want to change your Groundspeak password because Groundspeak now knows what it is? That's way beyond paranoia. Quote
+scobey Posted June 17, 2007 Posted June 17, 2007 Why is it not possible for non U.S. residents to apply for one. I would like to have one running in my part of Europe (Holland) If anyone can help getting me one I would be most gratefull! Non U.S. residents - That's a good one considering that U.S. Residents living in Alaska and Hawaii can't get one!!! There are probably more Jeeps in Alaska than any 2 states combined!!! So what is the REAL story about why Alaskan's and Hawaiian's are excluded?????? There are several old posts from past years regarding this topic. The answer is that Hawaii and Alaska have different laws regarding contests like this that prohibit the Jeep contest running in those two states. This is a gross generalization, of course, but that's the gist of it. A forum search will turn up a more precise answer. I have never heard of this as a problem. There are many national promotions that include Alaska. Quote
+scobey Posted June 17, 2007 Posted June 17, 2007 That aside, my initial reaction to the above quotes is: If Jeeps are already saturating the market, why advertise in that market? Maybe they should remember who supports the brand! Quote
+Sequoia_2 Posted June 18, 2007 Posted June 18, 2007 A RED JEEP! My life long wish may come true, even if it is 1/64 scale! Quote
+Glenn Posted June 18, 2007 Posted June 18, 2007 Non U.S. residents - That's a good one considering that U.S. Residents living in Alaska and Hawaii can't get one!!! There are probably more Jeeps in Alaska than any 2 states combined!!! So what is the REAL story about why Alaskan's and Hawaiian's are excluded?????? Alaska's a state? When did that happen??? (Okay, I'm old enough to remember when Alaska became a state. I do find humorous the phrase 'lower 48 states.' Hawaii is lower than most states. Perhaps they should have used the phrase 'conterminous 48 states'?) Or the contiguous U.S. states. They probably don't ship to Alaska and Hawaii because the shipping charges are a little more epxensive to get to those 2 states than the, here's another one, continental U.S. states. But that's just my 2 cents and I'm not a postal worker, UPS employee, nor a Fedex employee and I don't have any true statistics to back that statement up. I'm basing it on the fact that whenever I ship something to Hawaii or Alaska it costs more than to ship to anywhere in the "lower 48". (I'm referring to Ebay experience.) Take the cost to ship a vehicle to California then add about $1000 and 3 weeks and you'll get what it costs to ship the vehicle to Hawaii. Then there has to be Jeep dealership nearby for the the Jeep to be shipped to. Some of the Hawaiian islands don't have Jeep dealerships. Besides Hawaii has very strict gambling laws. What I don't understand is why aren't any of the Red Jeep Travel Bug going to start in Alaska or Hawaii. We know that residents of Alaska and Hawaii ineligible for any prises. But why deprive us of the Red Jeep Travel Bug too? If the worry is that the Reb Jeep Travel Bug will be out of play for too long I can tell you from first hand experience that starting a Travel Bug in Hawaii does not mean it will stay in Hawaii for very long. In fact I've found that the Travel Bugs I've started in Hawaii left the state much quicker than the Travel Bugs that I've started in California. I have a entire series of 'Haole' Travel Bugs who's goal is to stay in Hawaii and currently two of them are out of the state! Quote
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