+eklenken Posted May 17, 2007 Share Posted May 17, 2007 I am looking at going paperless for caching. I don't want to spend a lot of money, so I am wondering if any one is using the Palm Z22 for caching? I know the Tungsten E2 Handheld would be better, but is twice the money. I would most likely just use this for caching. Another question is if anyone is using a smartphone ie Treo or MotoQ? My cell contract is almost up and I might just wait to get one of those if it would work. Quote Link to comment
+Team NightStalker Posted May 17, 2007 Share Posted May 17, 2007 i use a garmin iQues M3. got it fully loaded on Ebay for 300.00 Shipped. best ever. voiced directions to get you right to the spot for that unfamiliar city or even boonie roads. Quote Link to comment
+Kbdank71 Posted May 17, 2007 Share Posted May 17, 2007 I am looking at going paperless for caching. I don't want to spend a lot of money, so I am wondering if any one is using the Palm Z22 for caching? I know the Tungsten E2 Handheld would be better, but is twice the money. I would most likely just use this for caching. Another question is if anyone is using a smartphone ie Treo or MotoQ? My cell contract is almost up and I might just wait to get one of those if it would work. I'm using an old Handspring. Not good for much these days, but it's perfect for geocaching. Quote Link to comment
+Miragee Posted May 17, 2007 Share Posted May 17, 2007 I have a Palm M500. The monochrome screen is easy-to-see, even in bright sunlight. These can be found on eBay for as little as $30.00, including the shipping. I use Cachemate on my Palm. There is both a Palm and PPC version of Cachemate. Quote Link to comment
+nooks Posted May 17, 2007 Share Posted May 17, 2007 Lots o' people use the IIIxe even. Can get them on ebay for less than $30. Me, I have a t/x that I use it for nursing school and happen to have cachmate on. The number of caches seems to be the limitation. I know someone who keeps about 2500 on her Z22. Also, better to go cheaper if you're worried about losing or breaking while caching. Quote Link to comment
+eklenken Posted May 17, 2007 Author Share Posted May 17, 2007 I saw on one of the other topics that the 60CSX can have a log of 130+ letters, how do I do that with my 60CXS? Quote Link to comment
+naviguesser74 Posted May 17, 2007 Share Posted May 17, 2007 have to decide on the one device or two device paperless method. with a BT Palm and the Palm application GeoNiche, you can carry one device and do everything. A bonus is that you can customize the softwate the way you want and not have to use what Garmin or some other company prescribes. Quote Link to comment
Ann_Brush Posted May 17, 2007 Share Posted May 17, 2007 If you spend more than $60 you are spending money you dont need to and will never get the utility from. $300 is WAY too much - its like buying a new modern computer and then loading DOS 3.1 to run "MS Notepad" on it - what a waste. Quote Link to comment
+RockyRaab Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 What Ann said. If you need a PDA for lots of other things, you probably already HAVE one, and it will run Cachemate just fine. If you're getting it just for caching, then get the simplest, cheapest one you can find on eBay. I found the IBM brand-named version of the Palm 500 for peanuts, and it does more than I'll ever need. Plus you can download lots of freeware such as gas mileage logs, expense trackers, simple games and such also. One caveat: Some of the much older PDAs have connector cords that end in a 9-pin serial plug - and lots of modern computers don't those any more. Try to find one with a USB cable. There are serial-to-USB adapters, but they can be problematic. I bought two different ones and can't get either one to work flawlessly. Finally found a USB cable to fit my PDA. Problem solved. Get GSAK for your computer and Cachemate for your PDA. Seamless updates and lots more from pocket queries. Quote Link to comment
+village-idiot Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 Another use, beside paperless geocaching, for PDA's is reading books. Just google free e-books and you'll find tons of them. Quote Link to comment
+TotemLake Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 If you spend more than $60 you are spending money you dont need to and will never get the utility from. $300 is WAY too much - its like buying a new modern computer and then loading DOS 3.1 to run "MS Notepad" on it - what a waste. Your analogy doesn't work. In the early years, everybody that bought a computer for the first time had no real use for it and yet they spent the $2000 to balance a checkbook and write the occasional letter. Look at where we are today. That's how far forward you have to look when you buy a device such as a Palm or PPC. My first Palm purchase was like my first PC purchase. It didn't exactly meet the need of all the things I needed to do, but it gave me an idea of what I was really looking for when I made my next purchase. Today, I use the PPC for far more than gaming. Quote Link to comment
+Team LaLonde Posted May 19, 2007 Share Posted May 19, 2007 I am looking at going paperless for caching. I don't want to spend a lot of money, so I am wondering if any one is using the Palm Z22 for caching? We use the Z22 for caching and it is more than adequate. It's lightweight, holds a charge for several days and it's easy to use. Quote Link to comment
+thumbs1 Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 I bought two Palm IIIxe's. One I use and one as a backup for the future. I use gsak and cachemate. I think it's a great setup. the xe's are so darn cheap. I was goin to buy a pda years ago but until I went paperless never could figure a reason to spend the money. Both my xe's were less than 20 bucks. Quote Link to comment
+Team Gryarvold Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 I just updated to the Treo 680 and installed Cachemate on it and lovit, lovit. Now I only have one tool that does all but gps and I can get that if I want to pay the fee. I also am thinking that Delorme 2007 will work on it as well. Quote Link to comment
+eklenken Posted May 22, 2007 Author Share Posted May 22, 2007 I use Cachemate on my Palm. There is both a Palm and PPC version of Cachemate. I am going to buy the Z22 soon. I recently downloaded GSAK and think it will take a lot time to get used to and all of the info is already on the gc.com, so I would rather not have all that info on my computer. What I was wondering is if GSAK is necessary for the Z22? Also what program would be the best and easiest to use on the Z22? I am thinking about the cachmate program that I have seen mentioned several times, but haven't really read anything about it. What about GPS Spinner and Plucker, are those easy to use and a good program? Quote Link to comment
+Miragee Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 Spinner and Plucker are free. However, from what I have read here, they involve a few more steps than the GSAK/Cachemate combination. I used Spinner for a while, but didn't care for it compared to GSAK. Although GSAK might be daunting when you start out, once you figure out the Filter Dialogue box, and the "Centerpoint" feature, it is very easy to use and such a time saver. It opens the zipped PQ files. Then from GSAK, you send the filtered waypoints to your GPSr, Export the waypoints to your mapping software, to see how the caches look on your map, then Export in the correct format for Cachemate. GSAK puts that file in the correct place so it will be installed on the next HotSync. Here is a rudimentary GSAK tutorial that might help you. Quote Link to comment
+mo_town_man Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 (edited) I bought two Palm IIIxe's. One I use and one as a backup for the future. I use gsak and cachemate. I think it's a great setup. the xe's are so darn cheap. I was goin to buy a pda years ago but until I went paperless never could figure a reason to spend the money. Both my xe's were less than 20 bucks. Sure wish i could find the sweet deals you got!! I looked on amazon and they want 57.84 for a used one. E-bay didn't fair out no better... I also checked my local shopper newspaper and craigs list. Any hints on how i also can enjoy the benefits of a Palm IIIXe for such a cheap price? Any help is most appreciated. Really love to have that info at my finger tips when i'm out in the geocaching field. Edited May 22, 2007 by danny_1970_gps Quote Link to comment
+Miragee Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 Keep checking eBay. I have a Palm M500 I have had for several years. I've been using it for Geocaching with Cachemate installed for more than two years now and it works great. A friend got one of those on eBay for only $30.00, and that included the shipping. Quote Link to comment
+thumbs1 Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 (edited) yeah ya just gotta keep lookin. I just saw a brand new Palm IIIxe in the unopened box that went for 21 bucks and 9 bucks shippin. They are there ya just gotta be patient and keep your eyes open. You really don't need the software you can download it along with the instruction book on line. You need the palm and the cradle. I will admitt though they are becoming more popular on ebay. I guess more and more people are geocaching LOL. I like my xe. It's a bit dated but it does everything I want of geocaching. You can get fancey with maps and such on some of the othere and I can see that would nice. I may go that way later but for now the xe is just fine. The other thing I like is the replaceable batteries. Probably to late but heres one for 5 bucks....120121338315 heres another for 5 bucks 290117199825 one more for 7 bucks. 320115164010 Now they may not end up for this price but I'll bet at least one will go for less than 20 bucks or darn close shipped. Edited May 22, 2007 by thumbs1 Quote Link to comment
kent62 Posted May 23, 2007 Share Posted May 23, 2007 I need to connect a Garmin 60CSx to my T-Mobile MDA. Any idea where I can get a cable that can do this? Thanks, Kent62 Quote Link to comment
+Knight2000 Posted May 23, 2007 Share Posted May 23, 2007 I got a Palm m130 from an ad on craigslist for $40. It works great with cachemate installed. It connects via USB which i would much rather have than a serial connection. I always check craigslist (if you live in a populated area) before buying on eBay. As time goes on I am hating the hassle with eBay. Quote Link to comment
+mo_town_man Posted May 23, 2007 Share Posted May 23, 2007 I got a Palm m130 from an ad on craigslist for $40. It works great with cachemate installed. It connects via USB which i would much rather have than a serial connection. I always check craigslist (if you live in a populated area) before buying on eBay. As time goes on I am hating the hassle with eBay. Thanx for your help everyone. I bidded on a Palm IIIxe but it went over 30 dollars and I was outbidded. Hopefully, in time, i will get hold of one without going over 30. Meanwhile, i can have fun going after caches one at a time after i read up on the one i'm going after at home. --danny ps. if u r reading this and have one to sell, give me a shout. Quote Link to comment
+jerpete Posted May 23, 2007 Share Posted May 23, 2007 I got a Palm m130 from an ad on craigslist for $40. It works great with cachemate installed. It connects via USB which i would much rather have than a serial connection. I always check craigslist (if you live in a populated area) before buying on eBay. As time goes on I am hating the hassle with eBay. Thanx for your help everyone. I bidded on a Palm IIIxe but it went over 30 dollars and I was outbidded. Hopefully, in time, i will get hold of one without going over 30. Meanwhile, i can have fun going after caches one at a time after i read up on the one i'm going after at home. --danny ps. if u r reading this and have one to sell, give me a shout. Check for handspring visors as well, it uses the Palm OS and connects via a usb cord/cradle. I just started paperless this week and have over 500 caches on it and could easily fit another 500. Quote Link to comment
+AShan Posted May 28, 2007 Share Posted May 28, 2007 I have a couple questions. Is 8mb enough? What does the PDA show on the screen, the exact thing as your home computer? How many cache pages of info can you put into a 8mb PDA? Some users say you need 2 PDA's, whats the point of that? Once you get your PDA, many folks say to get Cachemate and GSAK together. Is that kinda the standard for a novice like myself? Are they hard to install? Thanks, I'm thinking about moving into the next level of this sport with a PDA. ashann Quote Link to comment
+TrailGators Posted May 28, 2007 Share Posted May 28, 2007 (edited) I have a couple questions. Is 8mb enough?What does the PDA show on the screen, the exact thing as your home computer? How many cache pages of info can you put into a 8mb PDA? Some users say you need 2 PDA's, whats the point of that? Once you get your PDA, many folks say to get Cachemate and GSAK together. Is that kinda the standard for a novice like myself? Are they hard to install? Thanks, I'm thinking about moving into the next level of this sport with a PDA. ashann If you are just using the Palm for caching then 8MB is enough. Edited May 28, 2007 by TrailGators Quote Link to comment
+thumbs1 Posted May 28, 2007 Share Posted May 28, 2007 I don't know what they need two for, i only use one. No it does not show the exact thing as your computer. It doesn't show picts just the info for the cache. The 8mg has plenty of room. I download 100 caches at a time and there is tons more room. (I really don't know why I download 100) I use Cachemate on the pda and GSAK on the gps. Great way to go paperless. I know there are other programs out there but it seems like an awful lot of people use them. Quote Link to comment
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