+HoldenFamily4 Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 So much publicity these days with trekking poles and testemonials like "I'll never go back to not using trekking poles" has me thinking about getting a pair. A couple of issues, one being if each hand is holding a pole, what is holding my Maggy? I understand that 4 legs, in essence, spread the energy consumption better than 2.... but on my mostly 1-2 mile hikes on usually paved and flat trails, am I going to look like a complete goof... OK, I'm a geocacher so I already look like a goof, but you know what I mean! Quote Link to comment
+Cpt.Blackbeard Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 I have a herniated disk in my lower back and I can't walk any long distance without a stick to lean on. I bought a pair of cheap ones from Wally World but I seldom carry more than one, it not only keeps one hand free but I can trade hands when one arm gets tired. I bought the cheap ones first to see if I'd like using them but they are holding up so well I see no reason to upgrade them. Quote Link to comment
O-Mega Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 Well, I don't know about two but I do have one I take with me into the woods. It comes in handy when on unsteady hills and when I need to poke it into dark tree holes or rocky hiding places. v/r O-Mega Quote Link to comment
+TrailGators Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 I typically use one pole. I can unscrew the end of it to hold my camera which is very handy for taking group shots. Quote Link to comment
+JDandDD Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 On treks in the woods, wouldn't be without our trekking poles. Usually just one but it can make climbing a lot easier, lets you steady yourself in all kinds of unique terrain you find. Finally, when hunting for the cache you can poke safely into crevices and under things. JD Quote Link to comment
Tahosa and Sons Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 For what you have to do I would say it would be silly for a couple of poles just to take a walk in the woods. I use a good stiff hiking staff all the time and I hike alot. Can't stand trekking poles, they go click, click on the trail and are not strong enough to use as a weapon if the need arises. Quote Link to comment
+Miragee Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 I have a wonderful Leki walking stick that I use all the time. I got it on eBay for a reasonable price. Quote Link to comment
+Criminal Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 (edited) For what you are describing, it would be silly to carry trekking poles. They’d be dead weight and bothersome in your hands. The only time I use mine are on established trails, on long hikes, and on the descent. Edited April 29, 2007 by Criminal Quote Link to comment
Neos2 Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 I have a pair of Leki trekking poles that a wonderful geocacher friend gave me, and my husband has a pair of Komperdells. We always take at least one pole each with us into wild areas. When it's icy or extremely steep, we use both poles. There are mounts you can attach to hold the gps; I usually clip mine to my jacket where I can see it without holding it. I have two slipped discs. The pole helps me keep my balance and improve my footing. They also take enough strain off my back that I can cache for hours. I also have carpal tunnel syndrome (yes, I'm a mess!) and the anti-shock spring feature and the molded hand grips make it easier for me to use the trekking poles for long periods. They also make great places to hang the gps while you sign the log (no forgetting the gps that way!). They are great for poking in the brush or the deep dark hole and not coming out with a critter attached to your hand. I don't know about cheap poles, but I certainly wouldn't want to be attacked by someone weilding a Leki. The pole could certainly be used to shoo away a midly agressive animal. Wooden staffs are also nice, and they can be personalized fairly easily. I've heard many people say they had trouble with the less expensive poles collapsing when they really need them, or bending. I have never owned anything except the Leki, so I can't make a comparison. Whatever you choose, you will want some kind of stick for serious caching trips. Quote Link to comment
+The_Murdock Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 I will always hike with a single staff, custom made for me, by me. Hill assist, sticking in creek banks to test them, weapon, you name it. The one I use now is a walnut staff about 5' with finger grooves. Not as comfy as molded hand grips, but still very nice and handy. The only one I've seen that was cooler was the one used by my Search and Rescue teacher. Very neat aluminum job built specifically for him. Drive on, y'all ! Murdock Quote Link to comment
TinyMoon & The Pumpkin King Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 My wife and I have each have a wooden hiking staff that we use for most caching activities. I have two "funky" knees (courtesy of a motorcycle accident) the staffs are great for going up and/or down hills and for poking around in bushes and snowbanks looking for ammo boxes. However...they don't exactly fold up well and therefore don't fit on our motorcycle. So we each bought a folding trek pole at Wally World and they work just fine. As far as having TWO trek poles, one in each hand, that's A) kinda dorky and dumb. If you ever go for a tumble down a hill or whatever, you'll need a free hand and not a trek pole! Quote Link to comment
+fehrgo Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 As far as having TWO trek poles, one in each hand, that's A) kinda dorky and dumb. You're entitled to your opinion, but having two poles can really help with stabilisation on hillsides. It also spreads your load out properly so that you are not stressing one side over the other. You can't develop a proper hiking motion with just one, for the same reason that you won't find skiers with only one ski pole. Another great use for trecking poles is for banishing spider webs that tend to be built at eye level across bush trails around here. Large spiders in the face are not fun Quote Link to comment
+briansnat Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 (edited) I started using trekking poles about 6 years ago when snowshoeing, then for hiking in a little snow and when the snow melted I kept using them. Put me in the "I'll never go back to not using them" camp. If I do hike without them it feels strange. They are especially great for steep downhills and stream crossings and also helpful for knocking spider webs out of the way and poking in dark places when looking for a cache. In very heavy brush they do get in the way so I just collapse them and put them in the pack. And despite TinyMoon & The Pumpkin King's opinion, I use two. One doesn't work quite as well for balance and getting the weight off the aging knees. If I were to tumble down the hill and needed my hands I would probably just drop the poles. My GPS is clipped to my belt and I just stop and consult it periodically. No need to keep it in the hand all the time. Edited April 29, 2007 by briansnat Quote Link to comment
+Kit Fox Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 (edited) My wife and I have each have a wooden hiking staff that we use for most caching activities. I have two "funky" knees (courtesy of a motorcycle accident) the staffs are great for going up and/or down hills and for poking around in bushes and snowbanks looking for ammo boxes. However...they don't exactly fold up well and therefore don't fit on our motorcycle. So we each bought a folding trek pole at Wally World and they work just fine. As far as having TWO trek poles, one in each hand, that's A) kinda dorky and dumb. If you ever go for a tumble down a hill or whatever, you'll need a free hand and not a trek pole! I use two poles, and I have fallen, when I was descending a steep chute, filled with scree. It was pretty easy to "let go" off the trekking pole when I needed to. Call us dorky if you want, but my treks in steep terrain, at high elevation are far more enjoyable with two poles. I'm not sure if you've thought about this, but it's real simple to collapse one of your trekking pole, and use only one when needed. As for where to hold your GPS, I mainly carry mine in the top pocket of my Alpine Explorist. When I get closer to the caches, I hold the GPS and trekking pole in a delicate manner. I've been thinking of building a GPS mount for my trekking poles. I use the Cheap Red Walmart variety, but plan on upgrading to a better quality pair at Campmor. I've already bent on of the "red poles." Edited April 29, 2007 by Kit Fox Quote Link to comment
+Snifferhound Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 I'm in the camp of "I'll never go back to not using one". I started out with the cheap ones and they fell apart in a month. I now have a couple of different Leki, and a Komperdell. My favorite is the Leki Wunderfruend. It has a cane style handle, as well as the staff grip. On the easy hikes, I use it like a walking cane, and it makes all the difference in the world to my bad back. Quote Link to comment
+Torchbearer Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 I use the red ones from Wal-Mart as well. As of now, I only carry one. I Haven't done a major hike that requires two yet but I will be this summer so I will purchase another one. My single has helped me already going up hills, crossing logs over creeks, etc. I generally keep my GPSr around my neck with a lanyard so I can just reach down and check it without much difficulty. Good luck Quote Link to comment
+Celtic_cacher Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 I first saw hiking poles last spring when I was in an outdoor shop up in Flagstaff, AZ and thought they were 'interesting' but not something I would ever have the need for. Then I got into geocaching. I picked up one of the cheap poles at Target a couple of months ago before I went hiking in the Pinnacle National Monument, and it made all the difference in the world. It was helpful going uphill, but saved me from a couple of falls going downhill. I am firmly in the camp of "I'll never go back to not using one". -CJ Quote Link to comment
+Blue Magician Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 I am on my second set of poles. I tend to only use them either on rough terrain or when going down a moderately steep hill. Going uphill I find them to be less useful but it is always better to have more contact points with the ground in case one of your feet slide away from you. The reason its my second set is that my first set were damaged whilst on a Duke of Edinburgh expedition. I am glad that I had them as I feel that without them I would have had a nastly fall and possibly worse. Since then I take the poles with me whenever I feel that I will be travelling over rough or steep terrain. However, whilst caching I have used them only on one occasion. Quote Link to comment
+DanOCan Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 I use a pair of poles whenever I go on a cache that involves any sort of major elevation change. I find them useful for both climbing (the poles basically allowing my arms to assist the climb by pulling me up) and REALLY useful on the descent for taking a lot of weight off my knees. I keep the GPSr on a lanyard around my neck so it is there for a reference when needed. The poles are also really useful for poking around trying to find a cache, particularly in the snow. For hiking/walking on fairly level terrain I'll leave 'em in the car unless I expect to find snow or ice in which case I may only take one with me. Quote Link to comment
+Kit Fox Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 I use a pair of poles whenever I go on a cache that involves any sort of major elevation change. I find them useful for both climbing (the poles basically allowing my arms to assist the climb by pulling me up) and REALLY useful on the descent for taking a lot of weight off my knees. That is the biggest benefit I see from using the trekking poles, the boost from "rowing with my arms." It helps my legs out when i'm on steep inclines. Quote Link to comment
+Cpt.Blackbeard Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 Two poles really are better than one for hiking steep grades ,one is plenty for moderate hiking. I still recommend buyinng the inexpensive ones until you've used them enough to decide if you like them or not, you can always upgrade later and you may decide you'd prefer a staff over a pole anyway. I'll get an El Diablo staff someday, just as soon as he has the time and desire and I have the cash. Quote Link to comment
+EScout Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 I am a recent convert to Trekking poles. I often hike steep, crumbling dirt and rock trails and using them is amazing. No more sliding, slipping or falling on descending trails. And they help ascending and on uneven ground/rocks. Think of going from two wheel to four wheel drive. Walk like a mountain goat and take strain off your knees and back. You do not need them for well prepared trails, but you never know when you want to go off and take the small interesting side trail, cross a mossy stream..... Quote Link to comment
nonaeroterraqueous Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 We use them only for backpacking. When you've got a bit of weight bearing down on your shoulders it's nice to have that support. I would advise testing them out in the store first. Within the same brand some will be good and some will be almost useless. Put some weight on it, and if it tries to telescope into a smaller pole, just put it back on the shelf and try the next one. I hate having one bad pole that I have to keep extending back to the proper size all the way down the trail. Quote Link to comment
+Trizumi Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 Trekking poles are great if you are out backpacking with a fully loaded pack. That said, they really do save your knees! I find they just get in the way if I am out doing lightly packed day hikes. Flat hikes, they are a waste of time. However, since this is a geocaching forum. I cache in the desert Southwest. If I'm going to any cache where I can't drive right to it, I take my trekking poles. The exception is searching in bushes, I use my pole for that kind of search. The poles are great for prodding places I shouldn't be putting my hands. There are too many things down here where if they bite you, they kill you (or just ruin a great day of caching). Quote Link to comment
+Mule Ears Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 I'm fit and agile. I use trekking poles frequently. They allow me to make tracks on unstable slopes where caution would otherwise dictate a much slower pace. On level terrain, I use them to add a kick forward to each step. In soft sand, they save a tremendous amount of energy that would otherwise be lost in flat-footed slogging. With practice, I've learned to run pretty well with them. They help even out my gait so that my pack doesn't thump so badly with each stride. As to holding the GPS, I use a wrist-strap model, so it's not an issue. But it's pretty easy to free my hands for other purposes; I just let the pole dangle from its strap temporarily. One downside is that trekking-pole hiking on level ground is less energy efficient than two-legged walking. According to the people who do "Nordic walking" for fitness, that's not a bug, it's a feature! If your goal is to burn calories, the poles will supposedly help. Another con: They get in the way during actual climbing. Climbing up, I often stow them in my pack. Going down, I throw them ahead and retrieve them later. Quote Link to comment
+Knight2000 Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 (edited) Im not sure exaclty what trekkin poles are. Are they a name brand or something? If they are just walking sticks or staffs then i find them very handy when on the right trail. I wanted to buy some for the family but they seemed more than i wanted to pay for one. Before today i just used one that my grandfather made for himself and i got when he passed. While shopping today we stopped in a craft type store looking for rare earth magnets, this was by the front door. Each member of the family picked one out. They seem fairly strong. I also bought laces to make lanyards for the handles. The 4 we bought look like this. At less than $6 for all of them- i think it was a great deal. (They are 36" long and about 1.5" wide.) I got them at a chain store, but i think they are only in Ohio. Edited April 29, 2007 by knight2000 Quote Link to comment
+fehrgo Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 Im not sure exaclty what trekkin poles are. Are they a name brand or something? Google: Trekking Poles Generally collapsible (2-4 segments), often with a shock absorber, wrist strap and ergonomic handle. Many are variable in length to accommodate for the height of the individual and to assist with proper posture. Quote Link to comment
+Knight2000 Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 Color me stupid. Then i retract my previous post. Quote Link to comment
+Kit Fox Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 I forgot to add a great bonus for trekking pole and walking stick users, they are great for lifting up bushes, in poisonous snake country. Quote Link to comment
+kf4oox Posted April 30, 2007 Share Posted April 30, 2007 I got them at a chain store, but i think they are only in Ohio. We got one in Hermitage Pa. So they are just in Ohio. I have thought about getting a walking stick/pole but nothing I have seen has hit my fancy as of yet. But I keep on looking. Paul KF4OOX Quote Link to comment
+Knight2000 Posted April 30, 2007 Share Posted April 30, 2007 I got them at a chain store, but i think they are only in Ohio. We got one in Hermitage Pa. So they are just in Ohio. I guess i was wrong if there are other stores in other states. I dont know about if this item is available at other stores though. Quote Link to comment
cfauld Posted April 30, 2007 Share Posted April 30, 2007 I walk with a cane, caching or not... I have considered switching to a trekking pole though to replace my cane in rougher terrain. Reading some of these posts has convinced me I need to make that switch. Quote Link to comment
+Miragee Posted April 30, 2007 Share Posted April 30, 2007 The thing that is really nice about my Leki walking stick is the shock-absorbing feature. A regular wooden staff, a cane, or inexpensive walking sticks don't have that benefit. Quote Link to comment
Pinon Posted April 30, 2007 Share Posted April 30, 2007 I have several sets of poles that I use for geocaching and hiking/backpacking. 1 set is from REI and the other is from WalMart. I am surprised at the quality of the Walmart poles. I have not had any trouble with them in 3 years. I don't hike without them. Quote Link to comment
Clan Riffster Posted April 30, 2007 Share Posted April 30, 2007 Many moons ago, I bought one of those Swiss-Something red collapsable hiking poles at Wally World. I tried leveraging a log with it, and snapped it in two. Wally World replaced it, no questions asked. Hiking with my "new" one, the rotating lock thingy failed under a load and dumped me face first onto a shallow rock face. Since then, I hike with a wooden staff. If I wasn't such a cheap skate, I would've bought a Leki, or some other name brand, which probably would've held up a lot better than the Wally World ones. Quote Link to comment
+Knight2000 Posted April 30, 2007 Share Posted April 30, 2007 If I wasn't such a cheap skate, I would've bought a Leki, or some other name brand, which probably would've held up a lot better than the Wally World ones. You're one too? Quote Link to comment
+uxorious Posted April 30, 2007 Share Posted April 30, 2007 My knees are shot, (bone on bone, no cartilage left.) Consumer Reports had an article that recommended trekking poles for people with bad knees, so I bought a pair. Must be something wrong with the way I use them, as I could not get them to help. A single walking stick works much better for me. Quote Link to comment
nonaeroterraqueous Posted April 30, 2007 Share Posted April 30, 2007 My knees are shot, (bone on bone, no cartilage left.) Consumer Reports had an article that recommended trekking poles for people with bad knees, so I bought a pair. Must be something wrong with the way I use them, as I could not get them to help. A single walking stick works much better for me. Maybe it is the way you use them. I've got knee trouble, personally, and I find that they help quite a bit. But, then, I've only used them while backpacking, so maybe the extra weight changes how I would use them. It's tempting to carry the stick, rather than let the stick carry me, if you get my drift. If I don't use them well, then they become nothing more than a couple of accessories that I use to hold my arms up. Quote Link to comment
+jackrock Posted April 30, 2007 Share Posted April 30, 2007 I use one pole. There have been difficult hikes where trekking poles would have been nice. Most of the time, I want a hand free for various reasons so I just use a hiking pole. I like wood ones but also have a nice REI collapsible one. I often use it shortened as a cane rather than as a staff. I like the flexibility to change the height for my needs (going downhill I lengthen it). For caching I like to have it for moving brush, poking the ground to feel for a cache through the dense leaf litter, etc. Quote Link to comment
+flask Posted April 30, 2007 Share Posted April 30, 2007 bad knees. i use 'em if there's going to be much elevation change. the shock absorbtion is very nice. and they make nice poking sticks at the search area. Quote Link to comment
+pcunningham Posted April 30, 2007 Share Posted April 30, 2007 I use a Leki Wanderfreund single pole when geocaching and a pair of Leki Tour Cor-Tek trekking poles for backpacking, for all of the reasons listed above. Quote Link to comment
+Cpt.Blackbeard Posted April 30, 2007 Share Posted April 30, 2007 Many moons ago, I bought one of those Swiss-Something red collapsable hiking poles at Wally World. I tried leveraging a log with it, and snapped it in two. Wally World replaced it, no questions asked. Hiking with my "new" one, the rotating lock thingy failed under a load and dumped me face first onto a shallow rock face. Since then, I hike with a wooden staff. If I wasn't such a cheap skate, I would've bought a Leki, or some other name brand, which probably would've held up a lot better than the Wally World ones. I met a cacher in the woods once who had a Leki, when he tried to lean on it, it collapsed. I'm 380 pounds and I put considerable weight on my red Swiss-Something Wally World trekkin pole and it holds. Like cars, some are lemons and some are gems. Quote Link to comment
+briansnat Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 I met a cacher in the woods once who had a Leki, when he tried to lean on it, it collapsed. Leki, Wal-mart, the brand doesn't matter. They will all collapse if not tightened properly. I have Komperdells and just make sure they are tight before every hike and will check them periodically. Never have a problem as long as I do that. Quote Link to comment
+Mule Ears Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 I met a cacher in the woods once who had a Leki, when he tried to lean on it, it collapsed. Leki, Wal-mart, the brand doesn't matter. They will all collapse if not tightened properly. I have Komperdells and just make sure they are tight before every hike and will check them periodically. Never have a problem as long as I do that. Yep. Furthermore, it depends on how you use them. I must give a little twist on push-off, because the pole in my left hand loosens and the one in my right tightens. You just develop a ritual for checking and tightening periodically, particularly before and after heavy use. Quote Link to comment
+StarBrand Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 I've tried trekking poles but find my trusyt wooden hiking stick/staff to be much more useful. Strong/lightweight and no worries about "collapse". Quote Link to comment
+sbell111 Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 (edited) I'm in the camp of "I'll never go back to not using one". I started out with the cheap ones and they fell apart in a month. I now have a couple of different Leki, and a Komperdell. My favorite is the Leki Wunderfruend. It has a cane style handle, as well as the staff grip. On the easy hikes, I use it like a walking cane, and it makes all the difference in the world to my bad back.I have a great wooden staff that I picked up at a beaver dam several years ago and converted to use as well as a wal-Mart collabsible that I like. However, after my accident, I began using a cheapo that is similar to Leki's Wanderfruend. I really like it's versatility, but I have pretty much worn it out. I think that I'll start looking around for a deal on a Leki Super Micro to replace it.I've tried trekking poles but find my trusyt wooden hiking stick/staff to be much more useful. Strong/lightweight and no worries about "collapse".The only probablem that I have with my wooden staff is that I never have it handy. I'll neglect to drag it out of the Jeep or I'll leave it at home all together. I never bring it while traveling because I don't want it to get the American Tourister Ape treatment by the luggage goobs. A Leki Super MIcro, however, collapses down to just over 18 inches. This is small enough to stow in a day pack or pack away in checked luggage. Also, it easily converts to a cane for those of us who occasionally need one. Edit: I was going to fix my typo, but I kind of like 'probablem'. Edited May 1, 2007 by sbell111 Quote Link to comment
+StarBrand Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 .....I never bring it while traveling because I don't want it to get the American Tourister Ape treatment by the luggage goobs. A Leki Super MIcro, however, collapses down to just over 18 inches. This is small enough to stow in a day pack or pack away in checked luggage. Also, it easily converts to a cane for those of us who occasionally need one. You fly!!! - I just drive so I can cache all the way to my location (will work until I decide to treat my wife to a Hawaii vacation) Quote Link to comment
+fox-and-the-hound Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 You'd have to put both of us in the gotta have'm camp The biggest advantages of course are steep grades, descents, stream crossing etc. They're also a very useful tool for probing in all seasons. Two things caught my eye in the responses so far. Someone mentioned them being heavy and someone else mentioned the strength factor. As far as being heavy, I heartily disagree. A small bottle of water is easily twice as heavy as both sticks combined weight. I usually keep them clipped to my swag bag (collapsed) with a carabiner and just use them on occasion when the need arises. As for strength, they're all pretty good and my komperdells doubled as a pair of crutches when I blew out my knee on Mt. Washington. I hobbled over six miles going back down supporting the majority of my 6'2" / 220lb body the whole way and they're the same pair I use every weekend. The bonus of hiking poles are tremendous, the disadvantages are almost non-existent. Borrow a pair for a weekend and you'll probably be sold on them, too. Quote Link to comment
Clan Riffster Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 I should note that my second Wally World red Swiss Something pole didn't collapse from not being tightened. The lower, black plastic twist thingy cracked. (probably from my abusive handling? Maybe just a defect?) Don't know. I do know that I am at 100% failure rate with the cheap ones, and 0% failure rate with my 6' saguaro (sp?) cactus staff. I would like to someday add a collapsible staff to my stuff, just for the convenience, (storing a 6' wooden staff in a kayak is a pain), and when that day comes, it won't be red....or Swiss. Quote Link to comment
+EScout Posted May 2, 2007 Share Posted May 2, 2007 Good price on the REI TRaverse. This is what I use. Very strong and light, easy twist change from shock absorb to non-shock absorb. Made in Austria by Komperdell. REI Traverse Trekking Quote Link to comment
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